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Well its been 2 years since Maryna & Katya have arrived here and all is going great. Katya is in 1st grade and is doing outstanding. She is the best reader and all around best student in her grade and probably best athlete too. And Maryna is doing great and has 2 part-time jobs and is cleaning up. One of them is her own company that she started with a friend of hers here and she takes home $20 an hour from that one. She also payed for her & Katya's trip home and brought back a ton of $ for her family to boot. I'm sure they are even more proud of her than I am.
Anyway I know its been awhile since I posted, but I just got my password back and will 'talk' to you all soon...aloha

... in response to time flies, posted by Stan B on Oct 3, 2003

Two years, huh?

Wow, time does fly! It seems like only yesterday you were taking abuse from the board's "Logic Purveyor" who told you what a terrible mistake you made, and how she was going to leave you broken and miserable. (What insight! Must have honed those instincts with all of those years of working for the "gummit"...)

Anyway, happy anniversary!

Glad to hear things are still going well in Paradise. My wife loves the sea, so maybe one of these days we'll be heading your way. I've never seen more beautiful beaches that you guys have on your little island!

Congrats again!

... in response to thanx Mark, posted by Stan B on Oct 6, 2003

If I lived in Maui, I think the only time I'd get to DFW would be on a lay-over, too.

As for your badge of honor, you weathered that senseless attack with a lot of class, my hats off to you.

You know... as time marches on, and more and more marriages prove the "Logic Purveyor" wrong... (first Ken... then you... Victoria and I will be sailing past the 2 year mark before ya know it... )It's going to be fewer and fewer guys who take him seriously.

Thanks for proving that: Sour grapes, from a sour puss, can make a sweet wine.

Cheers again, Stan!

... in response to thanx Mark, posted by Stan B on Oct 6, 2003

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...I never said you couldn't beat the odds, just that it was a taking a big gamble. Course, it's only been two years...that you'd boast about that seems puzzling. And yer right...losers on boths sides who marry each other after a few days make this business smell bad, whether they beat the odds or not.

Then again I overlooked something. What are the odds of finding *two* people so desperately lonely they're willing to do such a foolish thing? Logic dictates they'd cling to each other for a long time. Maybe you're on to something after all, the problem is not many people would be "lucky" enough to find another person so willing. I imagine the prospect of living where you do had no bearing on it huh?

At least you missed getting suckered by a real slimey one, so I still say good for you. Others weren't so lucky...

... in response to Good for you..., posted by LP on Oct 6, 2003

Huh?

I've read this board at least weekly for almost 4 years now, learned much, and probably haven't posted enough to pay back what I've gained out of this process.

Why do I keep my experiences/opinions/information to myself? It's because of the bitterness in this, and the other posts similar to it. Has anyone else wondered why this board has slowed down to an almost comatose state? Who wants to contribute when you get responses like this?

LP, puzzled that someone would be happy about being married two years? Gosh, if you're bewildered by that, its no wonder you're not married. Most people call that celebrating an anniversary. Forgive me if I'm wrong, but I think that it's traditional to celebrate that.

"...still getting suckered by a real slimey one..."?
I'd say that that actually applies to the people on this board who still think you have more positive things to offer, then negative.

Happily married for 19 months and counting...

... in response to I couldn't agree more, posted by Stan B on Oct 8, 2003

I don't know what "wars" you 2 have had, but I think you miss LP's point. He is rough and gruff, but has a message worth heeding. I try to keep out of the personal stuff (ie
Marks wife) and try never to attack unless beaten over the head, but the message is still the same.....watch your back.

Our friend is an ex cop who has seen bad things and things that go very wrong, and warns what other people, sometimes desperate people, are capable of. Been in a few scrapes myself, and would have rather been anywhere else at the time.

Love him or hate him, the massage is a good one. If you haven't noticed in the last year or so, more scammers, more divorces, more guys left soon after leaving the alter, more abuse claims...and no more "blue sky" for anyone going to the FSU for a squeeze. Seems like a great message for me, and for others, minus the personal stuff. Sometimes generalities are better than a personal confrontation.

Better not to kill the messenger, even if the message isn't what you want to hear....but leave the personal stuff alone, and wish everyone a great and rewarding journey.

... in response to Re: I couldn't agree more, posted by Globetrotter on Oct 8, 2003

Ahhhh, the mystique of being a former cop.

As a former deputy and a current magistrate, I know that you sometimes see the worst the life can offer. No disagreement either, that we tend to be more cynical and a little less trusting of human nature. But that is no excuse for the bitterness tossed out here. Is LP really trying to "help" bring people down to earth, or has he lost sight of his own mission and now he's merely using that "mission" as an excuse to bring people down...period.

Why am I finally speaking out? I don't know. I certainly don't expect things to change just because I'm complaining. It is, however, my firmly held opinion that this group has gotten too clique-ish, and too negative. There are too many people accepting LP's cynicism as gospel: If it ain't the accepted way, its slammed. If you don't see the truth as he sees it, you get slammed. Today... what newby is going to dare post any questions that might catch the wrath of our resident demi-god? (no,that's not an insult,I have to believe LP will like his newest title :-)

I don't want anyone to slow down, leave, or shut up. But unless people loosen up a little around here, this boards gonna slip further into a coma and eventually die...and that sucks.

... in response to Re: Re: I couldn't agree more, posted by AronM II on Oct 8, 2003

You defend yourself very well, and good for you. I don't see LP's posts as "gospels" but good advice from someone who knows more FSU women than probably anyone here. When I read the archives before my first post, I found his posts most interesting. When I made my first post, I was attacked, not by him, but someone else...stoning me for something I said. He is certainly blunt, sometimes rude, and he does make the mistake of "gunning" for some who piss him off.

I don't see a clique-ish scenario here, but see a meeting of the minds of some, and disagreement by others. You are right in that some get engaged in a day or week, and roll the dice. They probably have the same chance for success as most here in the US....50/50, maybe more, maybe less.

There is one here who is in his late 60's, and engaged to a hottie who is 26. God Bless him, and I hope things work very well for him just as he hopes. I would have loved to have responded, but don't want to rain on anyone's parade.

I think the way to come into a group is to ask for advice, not to come in like a prick or a know-it-all. New blood, like an expanding economy keeps things alive and moving. There is a great deal of information here, and some nice and knowledgable people, just for the asking. Nobody should feel intimidated to join, to ask, and maybe later to contribute as to what they have learned, as you did, and I did, which is how you learn.

You are right, LP is right, in your quest. If it works for you, do it, knowing the risks and rewards. I would not do it your way, nor would others. Each to their own.

Just know that in the last year or so, things have certainly changed for the worse. You as a former deputy, me with several lawyers and a judge in my family, have heard enough horror stories. I know 2 that are going through horror as I write, and don't wish this on anyone.

Some will win and some will lose. Nobody can tell a determined soul he is wrong. Some are foolishly hopeful, some are overly cautious. At the end of the day, if you went into it with your heart and soul, have chosen well, overcome the several, severe, obstacles that these unions bring to the forefront, make lots of money and can "keep up with the Jones's", you will do well.

Best of luck in yours.

... in response to Re: Re: Re: I couldn't agree more, posted by Globetrotter on Oct 8, 2003

...Sorry but I don't feel gunning for people who take a swipe at me is a mistake, especially when they initiate it. (Look at the top of this thread.)

Piss me off? Hardly...it's pretty obvious who wins these skimishes. Besides, everyone on my end has a hoot. We're taking bets on what'll happen because my buddy is soooo predictable. Needles to say, I win every time and that means another beer for me. Lol, you have to be here to understand.

Btw, sorry to be a wise ass but your comment that these marriages have a 50/50 chance of success is positively brilliant. ;)

... in response to Hey Globe....., posted by LP on Oct 9, 2003

Naw........gunning is a bad thing. Your nemisis is the same who took the first "swipe" at me. Forgive and forget.
I've had a pitcher of beer poured on me in a bar. The jerk was hitting on my squeeze. I could have done much damage to him, but it wouldn't have been a fair fight. I called the bouncer and had him thrown out, which was done.

Your message is a good one, which I respect, and adhere to.
50/50 is a good bet for those who play "fast and loose."

Help, don't hinder!!! You can't make a difference to someone who thinks that "puzzy" is more important than reality, if the wrong head is doing the thinking...
ease off.

Even Mark, who pissed on me when I first came here over a year ago, I wished good luck. If anything would have scared a new member away, it would have been his first response to me. I was horrified. You were supportive. I was "trite."

Sometimes, you can be a real "prick"....a bad thing. Better to be a "gental soul" and get your message across, as opposed to those who hate it, or won't read it.

LP.....forget the one-upsmanship. You may marry your Oriental squeeze, or an American squeze, or "even" a Russian squeeze! You know....You never know!

... in response to Re: Re: I couldn't agree more, posted by AronM II on Oct 8, 2003

Yes,

You are spot on here:

"Why am I finally speaking out? ... It is, however, my firmly held opinion that this group has gotten too clique-ish, and too negative. ... Today... what newby is going to dare post any questions that might catch the wrath of our resident demi-god? ..."

Exactly.

I said that before. And that is why everyone who is fed up with the crap *should* speak up.

He's only here because he has an audience.

That's why he used to threaten to "leave into the sunset" all of the time... so people would beg him not to go.

It is pathetic how much he needs this board.

Last I heard, he wasn't interested in a Russian Bride... so why does he hang around?

But as long as he is cherished by "the old guard" he'll stay... and the board is worse for it.

You are right. Once people see the attacks on Travis, KenC, Stan, and everyone else... the newbies will stay away in droves.

Without new blood, this board will lose its usefulness...

... in response to I believe you are correct, posted by MarkInTx on Oct 8, 2003

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...my little puzzy-whipped friend. If needed this crap I'd be posting all over the place. I'm not here for weeks at a time. Second, I'd be on lots of other boards sludge pumping about how lucky I was to get lied to. I'm not...but I hear you sure are. You have no idea how pathetic folks think *that* is, I get emails about it on occassion. At least I'm up front with you. Doesn't it occur to you *why* few speak out about all my "crap"? You really are cluless. Maybe they know something you've been refusing to believe huh?

Old Guard? Yeah, they're lining up behind me ain't they? They're everywhere, look at all the posts. And if I had a real need for accolades shouldn't I be filling it by being a "nicer" guy? Honey versus vinegar and all that? Newbies staying away in droves? I sure hope so, this is no place for them to be getting advice.

Don't fret, we'll meet again one day. Then it'll be your big chance to make good on your promises. Or you can have her do it for you, I notice thats your style. lol, until then keep it coming. Hell, I may even stick around a little longer just to screw with you...

... in response to Re: I couldn't agree more, posted by Globetrotter on Oct 8, 2003

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...The guy clearly missed my point. Stan may have beaten the odds but what he did was still the hallmark of a loser.
Doesn't mean I wished for him to fail, only means the odds were against him and for others to use his experience as a guide would be foolish. (It's sad I even have to point that out)

And you're absolutely right in that the frequency of deals gone bad is way up, these clowns keep missing that because they think they're immune to it. Btw Aron, I'm where I am by choice and proud of it. You're where you are for the same reason. The difference is I *am* immune to it. I have what you have with none of the risk and there's plenty more where she came from. What's your excuse? Couldn't catch one locally? Or did you just *have* to be married to feel ok about yourself?

As far as personal things, you keep forgetting I've met the piece of work my pal is married to so I know what the real facts are. Not a bad lady persay, just that deceit is unaccpetable to me. Until he's willing to grasp that he won't feel different. Besides, he likes to hassle me so it's great fun hassling him in return.

What do you expect from a guy who can't even read? I read you've been married 19 *months*...yet another "success" story. Say, did you also propose to her after 6 days?

... in response to Good for you also...., posted by LP on Oct 8, 2003

Do I "have to be married to feel ok about myself"?

Gosh, LP, haven't you ever heard of LOVE? Is it only mal-adjusted people that get married? Does the concept of marriage escape you so completely that you are that lost?
Wow.

"...what he did was stil the hallmark of a loser."

He took a chance. So what? How many people in this world play loose with the odds every day The result, so far, is that he gambled and is winning. Why can't the guy celebrate a little? You're offended that he rolled the dice and came up good? Too bad.

"...couldn't catch one locally?"

What? Do you want a resume of my prior dating life? It sounds like your convinced that everyone here is a "loser" of one type or another and that "you" are the only normal one. sigh. Your own comment condemns yourself.

"Say, did you also propose to her after 6 days?"

Maybe I did. Maybe I didn't. Who cares? There are risks in waiting even 6 years. This entire business is fraught with risk. The best you can do is minimize the risk and be willing to accept the consequences if you lose. I am. He is. Mark is. Why can't you accept that?

... in response to Do I "have to be married to feel ok..., posted by AronM II on Oct 8, 2003

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..listen yer honor, I don't feel at all how you think. I believe in love, I've been there. Might be there right now, not sure because eveyone defines it differently. Some simply define a need for it as good enough.

My point was that you shouldn't need it to feel ok. You're ignoring the fact that many MOB men do and their actions prove it. It isn't about being in love, it's about what some will do to get it. All I'm saying is their actions are proportional to their need. I have no problem with any of the guys you mentioned, they have a problem with me...or themselves. I could care less about them, it's their bad advice that needs to be addressed.

I also point out my behavior is at times directly related to those who hassle me, it doesn't mean at all I feel a certain way about any particular subject. Do I have to explain such simple stuff to you? Geez, I hope you excersise better judgment on the bench.

You want to focus on the good and ignore the bad? Good, you do it. I'll do the opposite because nobody needs protection from the good. If you've been around here as long as you claim it should be obvious many need to be slapped at times. In additon there are a few weenies who have real problems letting go of things and thats their problem, not mine. As long as I'm hassled by these clowns I'll hassle back. Not much mind you, just enough to settle the score. Trust me, there are many here who think they deserve it and then some.

And if you honestly don't think this business is full of losers you've got your head buried somewhere. Me thinks you're lack of involvment now that you have your prize has lead to a certain degree of ignorance on your part. Or that you focused solely on yourself when you were involved. I've taken a different path, it's why I'm still here when I really don't want to be.

Btw, what mystique? It was thankless depressing work and I'm glad to be out out of it. You ought to know better. Not that it matters but the mystique factor is far higher in my current vocation. Finally, I've got no quarrel with you. You keep defending the smucks and let the more intelligent ones (who, ironically, don't need to have their idiocy pointed out to them) stick with me...deal?

Otherwise, I accept just about everything you said.

... in response to read a little, posted by Stan B on Oct 8, 2003

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..read it. I never said everyone is marrying scammers, only that I know someone who was lied to and accpeted it because he's blinded by the light.

You have everything you wanted so why even come here? I know only what you've written and the photos you've posted and thats plenty. The fact is anyone who proposes to a woman (forget a woman from a different culture) after 6 days has a problem. And any women who accepts does also. This is completely independent of how it turns out.

Just stop as many people on the street as you'd like and ask...you'll get the same "bs". But you won't because you know what they'd think of you...and they'd be right. I suggest you just enjoy what you have and be happy you lucked out and leave guys like me (where luck had nothing to do with it) to do the same.

If you're getting tired of me it I suggest you take my advice and try to not give a crap about what people say or do on a BB. Or are you gonna let me win? Kinda tells me you be a little weak in some areas but thats no surprise. After all, you certainly didn't seem to care about what they thought of your method of filling the hole in your soul.

Lol, and thanks for calling me Clair...now *thats* a badge of honor.

... in response to Then don't...., posted by LP on Oct 8, 2003

read it.

"...I suggest you take my advice and try to not give a crap about what people say or do on a BB."

Hey? You gotta love the irony of this statement. This means that LP really does care about us! Otherwise, he wouldn't bother reading our posts and hit us with witty insults.

Either that, or he's just mean-spirited:-)

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