Title: ..now, for something completely different... Post by: BURKE89 on January 21, 2003, 05:00:00 AM How 'bout Alexa ratings?
As I was just comparing my "Paleo" sites vs "Neo" rabble politico sites... I thought about P-L vs other comparable sites. Well, it's rather interesting, indeed. Let's have a go here: P-L ranked at 70,491 (remember, a low # is good). In essence, P-L is in the top 71K sites around the world. RWG, however, tallied a mere 134,048. For perspective: Yahoo - 1. E-bay - 7. Anastasiaweb - 18,777 Firstdream - 161,542 Worker world online (workers-dot-org) - 267,910 (I couldn't forget a Yoe favorite) ...nor could I deny a upstart fav from S.L.C... Alas, coloringbook-dot-com has pulled the upset. Sitting pretty at 254,222.
Title: Many More Tirades Like The Last Debacle, And . . . Post by: Dan on January 22, 2003, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to ..now, for something completely differen..., posted by BURKE89 on Jan 21, 2003
I would not be surprised to see a LOT of the casual - and even long-time - posters from this board migrate to some more sensible venue. Or cease participation altogether. FWIW - Dan Title: Or Post by: MarkInTx on January 22, 2003, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Many More Tirades Like The Last Debacle,..., posted by Dan on Jan 22, 2003
Maybe it drove up the hit count because of all of the voyeurs out there who tuned in every day to see what would happen next? Title: Possibly So Mark - and When It Becomes . . . Post by: Dan on January 22, 2003, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Or, posted by MarkInTx on Jan 22, 2003
A board full of "voyeurs" whose principal interest is to watch your verbal sparring - then it's time for me (at least) to go elsewhere - or cease posting. As it is, I am ashamed at my lack of self-control and having allowed myself to participate in a lot of the mud-slinging over the past 6 or 9 months or so. It is immature and antithesis to the intent and value of this board. Unfortunately, as I observed some months back - there are a few arrogant, ignorant loudmouths that have settled in here and they make it upleasant and unproductive for all. Rather than sit passively on the sidelines, I chose to engage. That was a mistake. At least, in the form I chose to engage, it was a mistake. So we'll see how things evolve here. Board participation is cyclic. Participants come and go rather fluidly. Some stick - most do not. If this board becomes one for your "voyeurs" - you can have it. There's a LOT of truth in what your friend FOG has to say - in spite of your response and the manner in which he chooses to say it. - Dan Title: Dan the man is back Post by: thesearch on January 23, 2003, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Possibly So Mark - and When It Becomes ...., posted by Dan on Jan 22, 2003
Glad to see you back in your best form. It is best to leave the mudslinging to those lower in the evolutionary scale. However, we all do it as we all have our moments - it not always easy to look at ourselves, see it, drop it, and get back on a more even keel versus continuing to wallow in the mud Title: Re: Possibly So Mark - and When It Becomes . . . Post by: Charles on January 22, 2003, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Possibly So Mark - and When It Becomes ...., posted by Dan on Jan 22, 2003
Dan, I would have to say that my interest in participating has waned considerably in recent months. It's very hard to enjoy and be of help to anyone when Mark, Jack, Oscar et al, and, last but not least, you too Dan, seek to detract from the worthwhile purpose of this board by, among other things, elongated debates to prove your manhood, trying to be an expert on everything by commenting on every post, whether helpful or not, trying to get the last word on every subject, going into a ballistic ad hominem attack when someone disagrees with them, and use of invective that certainly discourages the "lurkers" or the "silent majority" of readers from participating. To your credit, you (and Oscar, IMHO) have made some efforts to clean up your act of late, I only wish that others had more time to spend with their wives rather than trying to dominate the board and run people off. I may turn this on every other day. Lately I haven't even bothered because I'm sick of turning to this board and seeing (I rarely take the time to read em) another knock down drag out thread. Just my take, FWIW. Title: Re: Re: Possibly So Mark - and When It Becomes . . . Post by: Globetrotter on January 22, 2003, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Re: Possibly So Mark - and When It Becom..., posted by Charles on Jan 22, 2003
I'll second that. Seems as late to be a waste of time to read anything here............... Title: It's.... Post by: LP on January 26, 2003, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Re: Re: Possibly So Mark - and When It B..., posted by Globetrotter on Jan 22, 2003
[This message has been edited by LP] ...*always* been a waste of time to read anything here, I thought you realized that..... Title: I Know Charles . . . Post by: Dan on January 22, 2003, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Re: Possibly So Mark - and When It Becom..., posted by Charles on Jan 22, 2003
And I am sincerely embarrassed by my contributions to the problems. There are a few guys here that just hit me the wrong way - and I haven't exercised much (if any) self-control in response. I am committed to doing better. Sorry. In any case - please keep reading and posting. The guys on this board need people like yourself that are experienced and reasonable. Don't let me be the reason that your interest level wanes. - Dan Title: A lot of truth? Post by: MarkInTx on January 22, 2003, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Possibly So Mark - and When It Becomes ...., posted by Dan on Jan 22, 2003
Dan... You make a post that *attempts* to be the voice of reason, and then you add that last zinger... There is "a LOT of truth" to what FOG says? Really??? As I write this, here are Fog's "Posts of Truth" on the board: =========== Just give her some time, Mark, you'll be dumped soon! =========== Nah, your choice will have nothing to do with it. Once the Green Card comes in, she'll not need you anymore. My guess is that she'll return to her old profession to earn money. ============ I'm a little dense Dan, so maybe you can help me out. Which one of those posts are loaded with the TRUTH as you see it? Title: You're Limited - Just As I Am . . . Post by: Dan on January 22, 2003, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to A lot of truth?, posted by MarkInTx on Jan 22, 2003
By the fact that Patrick deleted a lot of threads yesterday, many of FOG's along with them and you only have access to his/her posts today. Among those deleted posts were some that were, indeed, quite critical of certain posters - you among those. I found several of his posts (not ALL of them) spot-on. My closing wasn't intended as a "zinger" - at least, not in the way you apparently interpreted it. I apologize for that. - Dan Title: You will agree then Post by: MarkInTx on January 22, 2003, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to You're Limited - Just As I Am . . ., posted by Dan on Jan 22, 2003
Than Mr. Fog does, indeed, seem to have an agenda? And that this agenda is, perhaps, not in the best interest of the board? Title: No, Not Necessarily . . . Post by: Dan on January 22, 2003, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to You will agree then, posted by MarkInTx on Jan 22, 2003
I appreciate FOG's - just like LP's - unabashed and unashamed presentation of the truth as they see it. I happen to agree with much (not ALL) of what these guys have said - and that perspective is of some value to people involved in this pursuit - in my opinion. Look Mark - I won't get sucked into being an apologist for FOG. Your line of questioning took us in that direction with a debate on LP in the past and i won't take that path with this exchange. I've said everything I intended to say. I didn't intend to be confrontational or offensive. Take it for what it's worth. - Dan Title: Great Post Dan! Post by: MarkInTx on January 22, 2003, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to No, Not Necessarily . . ., posted by Dan on Jan 22, 2003
Thanks, I think you made your stand here quite clear, thanks. I especially liked your spot-on comparison of LP and FOG. You are quite right. Good observation! Title: You're Welcome Mark . . . Post by: Dan on January 22, 2003, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Great Post Dan!, posted by MarkInTx on Jan 22, 2003
I'm glad you liked the comparison. Tell me though - the sarcastic tenor of your response suggests that you are implying a connection between Fog and LP that is lost on me. Care to be more explicit? - Dan Title: Re: You're Welcome Mark . . . Post by: MarkInTx on January 22, 2003, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to You're Welcome Mark . . ., posted by Dan on Jan 22, 2003
No connection, if you are asking me if they are one in the same... Just cut from the same foul-smelling cloth. Eventually Fog will be banned as a troll. He is not too bright, just belligerent. LP is more clever, and always shades his troll droppings in veiled innuendos that he can later deny. But when his accusations were challenged directly by Victoria, you saw him back down. If he were telling the truth, he would have met her. Instead, he prefers to hide behind the shadows, and make innuendos and hope that people are listening. But, most people know what he is now. When he backed down from Victoria's offer to meet him, my email was full from the guys writing me in disbelief... Personally, I knew he would never meet her face to face. He can accuse her -- as long as he can hide. As for FOG, he also hides behind his "persona." So, they are not the same person. But they are basically the same kind of a person. And your steadfast defense of both of them is, sadly, predictable... Title: Yeah, thats it..... Post by: LP on January 22, 2003, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Re: You're Welcome Mark . . ., posted by MarkInTx on Jan 22, 2003
....I backed down. ;-) Challenged? You call her broadcasting the same stuff she's been telling you a challenge? As if that makes it true? LOL!! Can't you even read??? Man, you really are clueless! I did exactly what I said I would do and it's all there for the world to see. lol, you be amazing! You keep forgeting one thing: *I'm* not the one who needs proof, I've had it all along and even shared it with others. It's YOU that needs it, it'ss why YOU asked for method that, amazingly, would've proved nothing. Keeerist! Well, your proof is now online if you'll just use that tiny puzzey-whipped brain to find it. I'll even give you a hint: "street adress". You want perdictable? lol, look in the mirror. And thanks for the kind words, you've made me a happy man. You've help me solve a problem I've had for months. In fact the word "glee" comes to mind. lol, I luv ya man! Title: Not "Sad" At All Mark . . . Post by: Dan on January 22, 2003, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Re: You're Welcome Mark . . ., posted by MarkInTx on Jan 22, 2003
I will (and have) steadfastly defended posts from many, many people on this board. I value conviction and commitment and admire those who pursue this endeavor with some intelligence and common sense. Unfortunately, that represents a small enough percentage of the guys involved in this so as to warrant serious concern. LP has surely garnered more than a small amount of appreciation from many on this board. I don't know FOG - and the circumstances of his emergence are unfortunate - but I have the sense that he, like LP, is able to offer a healthy dose of reality to the board. You may, or may not, recall Mark - but some time back I also defended YOU. I have openly stated that I liked some of your posts. The romantic side of you - and your obvious writing skills are to be admired. But they also have limits. I feel some resonance with the more romantic elements of your posting style - and I also resonate with LP's logic and analysis - both are of value. While I feel a greater affinity towards the logic of LP - I sometimes find myself wishing I possessed more of the romantic that you shared with us in the past. The only "sad" issue that I can come up with Mark - is that you have gravitated dramatically away from your style of posting of some months back. Your posts are now typically hateful and confrontational. Not universally so - but enough that they characterize most of your recent posts. In fact, if FOG has only recently begun to read the board, that may explain his very antagonistic perspective towards you Mark. Somehow, I recall saying most (or all) of this in the past. I am reminded of it falling on deaf ears then - and things have grown more tension-filled since. Now that Mark - is "sad." - Dan Title: Whats really sad.... Post by: LP on January 22, 2003, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Not "Sad" At All Mark . . ., posted by Dan on Jan 22, 2003
...is that this guy is a moron in the truest sense of the word. Cluless beyond comprehension, he possesess neither writing skills nor rational thought. All he can do is offer us consistant evidence of how co-dependant and desperate he really is, the hallmark of an MOB loser. For the very first time in this entire affair, I'm beginning to have no pity on him. Thats good, because it means I feel no guilt for spilling it. Title: Re: Whats makes me want to vomit... Post by: BarryM on January 22, 2003, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Whats really sad...., posted by LP on Jan 22, 2003
is the sad fact that Mark Ass-hole has declared war on most of us here. It's obvious he obsessively wants to be absolute ruler and dictator of all the discussions on PL. His obsession with you pulling his chain all these months is absolutely neurotic. You shouldn't have pity on him at all. He is such an egotistical prick. If you read is so-called "informational" posts, basically is all about him and his arrogant ego. He keeps cramming his spew on here like there is no tomorrow. Judging by his extremely prolific posts, it seems that PL is a major part of his pathetic life. Patrick should take sympathy on his wife and ban his ass. Maybe something could be salvaged from that marriage. I don't know how someone can spew so much garbage responses and say very little of use. Mark Ass-hole certainly does this. The fact is, Mark Ass-hole doesn't really care about giving useful information to help someone, he just comments to boost his arrogant ego. I wouldn't care if it just were that, but he also uses passive-aggressive attacks against Jack, you, I, Dan, Oscar, and others. He baits us into a fight, calls us liars, and just attacks enough to cause a fuss, but not enough that Patrick loses his patience and bans him. That is his tactic. He won't stop until he runs off everyone who disagrees with him. It a game to him and he has put a lot of his life into it. He has to win, even at the cost of his marriage. If you've noticed, I haven't been posting that much. I got a life and much more important things to do. Life is much too short and this board has outlived its usefullness. I have a much broader knowlege and access to more than this board can provide. I'm not sharing either. Not as long as the greedy arrogant Mark Ass-hole is around. Perhaps we can petition Patrick to ban him for the sake of peace on the board? There can be no peace as long as he is here. -blm Title: C'mon Barry, don't be shy, how do you really feel? ;-) n/t Post by: Oscar on January 23, 2003, 05:00:00 AM Title: Lol, you took the words..... Post by: LP on January 23, 2003, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to C'mon Barry, don't be shy, how do you re..., posted by Oscar on Jan 23, 2003
[This message has been edited by LP] ...right outta my mouth. Jeesh Barry, you're me...except I exercise more control. I did have pity on him, I wasn't gonna be responsible for wrecking his deal. He deserves to be as happy as much as anyone, even is he is operating with an aft center of gravity. But he's pushing my forgiving nature to the limit these days. He sure does hold a grudge doesn't he? I just wish he'd quit pushing his little storybook fable, no one else feels a need to do it. Some of use have done OK and we don't offer it up for consumption. (Or subsequent regurgitation. In my case, he's better than Kaopectate!) Lol, if he knew the truth, he'd be the one vomiting. Title: yep... Post by: BarryM on January 23, 2003, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Lol, you took the words....., posted by LP on Jan 23, 2003
unfortunately, Mark Ass-hole's presence is poisoning the board to such a degree it has become intolerable. I believe in speaking my mind and when I pissed, I say so. I have used extraordinary restraint over the last 2 weeks by not responding to the ongoing slugfests even though I wanted to. I had better things to do and this board has become polluted and poisonous because of him. Today I decided to break my silence for a few posts. BTW, I don't think there is anything you can do to wreck his deal, he's doing a fine job of that all by himself, but if it were me, I would pull the trigger on him about whatever info on hand and still have a clear conscience. Remember, he has declared war. He made a choice to be antagonistic and he brought all of the bitterness upon himself. He deserves to be drawn and quartered. -blm Title: I've already .... Post by: LP on January 23, 2003, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to yep..., posted by BarryM on Jan 23, 2003
...spilled it and don't feel bad about it anymore. It's now slowly spreading like the fungus it is. It won't matter though, it's clear that he would've married her no matter *what* she did/does, he was/is that desperate. How anyone could have read my "apology" and taken it as sincere is amazing. Yikes! It's a riot how he's such an ahole one day and suddenly the next he's posting like nothing happened. Watch for a repeat of his classic pattern, coming soon. Btw, you do speak your mind, I'l give you that. Nice job! Title: Dan, somebody has taken your name and is posting on the board... Post by: yoe on January 22, 2003, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Not "Sad" At All Mark . . ., posted by Dan on Jan 22, 2003
what is up with this, yearning for romanticism stuff. And my God son you are more analytically serence than I have ever seen. Did the Zoloft just kick in or what? hahaha You know I am funnin, right? Anyway I am very impressed with your line of reasoning and level of sheer provocation and demand that your last post require of the reader. Kudos........ Joe It reminds me of this old drunk that I used to know. One day I juiced him up on some bennies (speed) and the guy sobered right up. He was actaully not only pleasant but very articulate and comical. The next time I saw him his had pisses himself again........se la vie Title: Yeah - I Noticed That . . . Post by: Dan on January 22, 2003, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Dan, somebody has taken your name and is..., posted by yoe on Jan 22, 2003
They'll probably do a better job than me anyway. Yoe, I've probably gotten more 'yucks' from you than any other single poster on the board - and I have been mightily impressed at the few times you have opened up with glimpses into your background and difficult life-experiences. I wish you well - and keep up the irreverent (and sometime incomprehensible) sense of humor --smile--. - Dan Title: hits and miss Post by: Cold Warrior on January 22, 2003, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to ..now, for something completely differen..., posted by BURKE89 on Jan 21, 2003
As of this post PL has 7,839,692 hits. I am sure the ranking ought to be higher. Title: What's the website? Post by: BubbaGump on January 22, 2003, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to ..now, for something completely differen..., posted by BURKE89 on Jan 21, 2003
...for relative popularity ratings? Title: Alexa.com Post by: BURKE89 on January 23, 2003, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to What's the website?, posted by BubbaGump on Jan 22, 2003
To search individual sites, I had to add the bottom screen (Alexa tool-bar) to my favs, first. Title: Re: Alexa.com Post by: BubbaGump on January 24, 2003, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Alexa.com, posted by BURKE89 on Jan 23, 2003
Wow, the Drudgereport was number 335 but is much higher than that now. Title: Speaking of Drudge... Post by: BURKE89 on January 26, 2003, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Re: Alexa.com, posted by BubbaGump on Jan 24, 2003
Did you happen to see Matt's report, regarding W's American Business/China snafu on Wed.? (www.drudgereport.com/matt.htm) Made in America, my @ss... Title: that is why I luv U... Post by: yoe on January 22, 2003, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to ..now, for something completely differen..., posted by BURKE89 on Jan 21, 2003
you have all of that 'interesting' info-plus you are always thinking of me mate! I have to buy you a cold one if I ever get to whereever the h e l l you are! Joe Title: I'm a very... Post by: BURKE89 on January 23, 2003, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to that is why I luv U..., posted by yoe on Jan 22, 2003
"thoughtful" person, Joe! What can I say? |