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Back in California now and still it seems hard to believe.  I guess I will not believe it until the marriage happens.  All last week while I was with my lady, one thought kept going through my mind:  "Oh my God, Yes!"  Well, she's not perfect, no one is, but she is far better than I thought I could get.  We have the same religion, she doesn't smoke, she's very tall, she's very nice, she has an extremely attractive skinny waist, she's very beautiful, she speaks good English, and best of all, she truly loves me.  One thing that is very different for me is being with a lady that has small breasts as opposed to the huge ones all of my past girlfriends have, it is especially noticable during slow dances.  But my biggest concern is even though we feel we know each other well enough, are we going to make each other happy and is either of us going to change our mind.  I am optimistic yet strangely feel the need for some backup plans.  She seems slightly out of my league.  Several times I caught Ukrainian guys checking her out looking her up and down and making some sort of lustful gasp.  And at Hydropark, when I went to get a beer, I came back to see two guys trying to pick up on her.  If it is that bad in Ukraine, I can imagine how it will be here in California.  But I'm still optimistic and will use 90 days if we can be patient enough.  With us being so hot for each other spiritually, mentally, emotionally, and physically, I doubt we can wait 90 days.  We were on the steps of the flame monument with me on the top step and her on the next step and my arms around her when she said she loved me and I asked her to marry me.  She said, "maybe."  The next evening while walking back from Ceasars restaurant (We love that restaurant, our all time favorite, we even danced there beside our table while waiting for our delicious dinner) my mind was on the internet cafe and not thinking of much when all of a sudden out of nowhere she said, "I want to be your wife!"  I was in shock but happy and we had pure happiness together the entire time.

... in response to Whoops, I got engaged!, posted by Ramblin on May 29, 2002

Thanks all.

... in response to Whoops, I got engaged!, posted by Ramblin on May 29, 2002

Congratulations and best wishes.

Astarozhna!

... in response to Whoops, I got engaged!, posted by Ramblin on May 29, 2002

lol.

good story.  :^)

... in response to Whoops, I got engaged!, posted by Ramblin on May 29, 2002

Congratulations. Was this the older one? - twelve years younger or something?

Hey do not be concerned about the breasts. If real love developes with this lady you will find that you like smaller breasts. Mark my words.

But, I am going to pull a little LP here. You say that the best part is that she truly loves you. LP would be very disapppppointed to here you say that.

Sorry, I am going to have to side with LP on this one. I do not buy that you can know that for sure right now. I am just being a realist.

First of all there has not been enough time for her to really know that. She may suspect that she is or feel like she is at this time but time will either make that real or get her or you to change your mind. I am not trying to be negative. It is a risk you take.

You already said she is better than you could have gotten in your own backyard so if you have good instincts it probably is worth it. I mean you have to take a
chance sometime right?. So go for it but, I like the post of a quote from Ben Franklin about while courting keep both eyes open and once married have only one eye shut or something like that.

Also, you mentioned that at some level you felt a need for a backup plan. That well could be just your own paranoia or it could be that you are sensing a disturbance in the force Luke. Keep both eyes open for the ninety and one eye only closed after.

Good luck to you.

... in response to Whoops, I got engaged!, posted by Ramblin on May 29, 2002

Ultra Grats
Karl

... in response to Whoops, I got engaged!, posted by Ramblin on May 29, 2002

It's surely the best news I've read here in a long time! Your patience in your search has paid off, and I'm really happy for you.

I wouldn't worry about any minor attributes. A woman in love is the most beatiful woman in the world. Besides you will be too busy looking in her eyes thinking you're the most lucky man on earth than worring about anything else.

I wouldn't cut the 90 days short. When you guys begin to live together for real the process of adapting to eachother will begin. Some experience with this before marriage to blow off any initial steam is just healthy. The ability to see the other person also as a normal human being, not only God's gift to you, before marriage is invaluable. Why? Because when you marry you need to love the whole person, not only the nice side. When you can look at a woman's faults and think that's part of what you love, then you got a good thing going IMHO.

This is a day of happiness. I cheer for you! I cheer for your happiness and love! May your new family be filled with joy, love and mutual understanding.

... in response to Whoops, I got engaged!, posted by Ramblin on May 29, 2002

Cancer developing.

Besides, just means she'll be closer to you when you snuggle up together.

... in response to Whoops, I got engaged!, posted by Ramblin on May 29, 2002

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... in response to Whoops, I got engaged!, posted by Ramblin on May 29, 2002

I would like to add to the many congrats... and wish you nothing but the best in the future...

The small breast thing... to each his own... from my own perspective-- unless they are silcone they will droop after a few years- or least most will... but then again to each his own...  if you had the big ones before you have been there and done that... and you wont have to think what if-- all the time--- and you can concentrate on more important things... if you love her you will find that there is not another woman around that you will want sexually or otherwise... my opinion...

most important thing is the way you feel about each other and the way you get along...

as far as advice about waiting... yes the 90 days gives you some time to see how well you get along... but know this it will be impossible to really know everything about her after only 90 days... follow Ben Franklin's advice " keep both eyes open before marriage and one eye closed after marriage... LOL   -- very true... and be willing to bend and accept some things ... she will need to do the same with you...

once again as someone who has followed your story for awhile I am glad that it sounds like you have found your other half...

all the best,

Keith

... in response to Whoops, I got engaged!, posted by Ramblin on May 29, 2002

First, congratulations to you.

Second, I share some of your own concerns when you voice about small breasts.  I actually do not like huge breasts.  But my point is that we each have a preference for something, and it is hard to know if we can accept 'for eternity' the gal who does not have that 'something' that we crave.  In my case, it is a slender figure.

Third, I would not worry about other guys looking at your attractive gal or even lusting after her in the US.  Think of how many gals actually get looked at in a lustful way in US.  It is actually very few.  Yet how many women stray from their husbands in US (have affairs); quite a few I would say.  So my point is, you could marry an average gal or even a doggy type, and still she and another guy still might have an affair.  I doubt if the percentages are noticeably higher for attractive gals.

Fourth, you say:  "But I'm still optimistic and will use 90 days if we can be patient enough. With us being so hot for each other spiritually, mentally, emotionally, and physically, I doubt we can wait 90 days."

I don't understand your statement.  Why can't you wait 90 days for the marriage, even if you are 'hot for each other?'  I strongly suggest you wait the full 90 days.  Many, many things tend to gradually be unearthed over time.

JR

... in response to Small breasts and other such things, posted by juio99 on May 29, 2002

I remind you of that old military saying regarding breast size:
"Anything more than a handful is a waste!"

If she's over 45 or so the saying goes: "Anything more than a handful is her waist!".:))

... in response to Small breasts and other such things, posted by juio99 on May 29, 2002

The most comprehensive study ever done on female adultery, was done this last fall by a University Psychologist. I wish I could remember her name. But she blew the lid off some presumptions about adultery among women. First, only 21% of women have affairs, though about 40% thought about it. The reason most women never have affairs, is first, they view it as cheating on their whole family, not just the husband. But they actually think about the kids. The biggest reason they had affairs, is their husband not paying attention to them. No emotional support. Not because the other guy was luring at her, or was handsome.

Steve

... in response to Re: Small breasts and other such things, posted by Quasimoto on May 29, 2002

The fact that most women have affairs because their husband not paying attention to them. No emotional support.  I have been single for a long time I have a steady stream of married women that I sleep with and they just contact me and we setup a time and place.  It is crazy they all say they love their life and husband but just need physical and emotional..  Crazy times I live in...  The older I get the more I find these types of woman.  They are not all perfect but we have fun...

... in response to Re: Small breasts and other such things, posted by Quasimoto on May 29, 2002

How many women with a slender figure have big breasts? Get real, what are the odds? Secondly, what if women you love only is settling for you, and in fact likes a man with a very large UNIT!!!!! Gee, what a shame she will never be happy with your little dribbler! Maybe she could be offended by some of the guys here who need VIAGRA to be a man???? The two concepts are on the same level guys! You are marrying a woman, not a set of fat glands! My wife Tanya has a great figure (got married April 26th), but small boobs. I could care less. I love the woman, and I love her overall package. She isn't perfect, and neither am I.

Steve

... in response to Re: Re:  P.S.Small breasts et al, posted by Quasimoto on May 29, 2002

of course she will have her concerns about me too.

... in response to true and yes I thought of that, posted by Ramblin on May 30, 2002

All this concern about boobs! Notice Ms. Russia was rather small busted compared to many others????? has left me forgetting to congratulate you. Contratulations! I just hope that you don't feel there is insufficient woman between you and her soul!

Steve

... in response to Re: Re:  P.S.Small breasts et al, posted by Quasimoto on May 29, 2002

"How many women with a slender figure have big breasts? Get real, what are the odds? "

Absolute fact = it is not a common combination. However, the lady that I went to see twice from Ukraine was exactly this way. When I decided that she was not the right woman for me I knew that most likely I would see something like that again.

Being that way does have its problems. She could never buy a full outfit. The top would always be too small if she got a dress or pant to fit her body.  Man you should have seen that lady in a swim suit.

... in response to Re: Re:  P.S.Small breasts et al, posted by Quasimoto on May 29, 2002

I had not realized you had gotten married.  Best wishes to the two of you.

... in response to Re: Re:  P.S.Small breasts et al, posted by Quasimoto on May 29, 2002

Steve,

congratulations!!!!

Is she and her little boy already here? How is the adjustment? What she thinks of the US?

Please let us know how things are going.

Very happy for you,

Russian Wife

... in response to congrats, posted by RW on May 29, 2002

Hi RW,

No she is not here yet. I tried to file for a K-3 direct consular filing. Tanya went to ZAGS and asked for specific directions regarding paper work. They gave her a list. We complied, then I went over with the papers, and we went to ZAGS to schedule our wedding. They looked at the paper work, and only requested a copy of my VISA attached. I complied, and then we went to the US Consulate to get my papers stamped and sworn. The US Consulate told me that ZAGS would not OK them, or the Foreign Ministry, because they were not notarized by my state Secretary of State, and US Secretary of State, Colin Powell's office. So two hours before the ZAGS wedding, I had to go home and tell Tanya the bad news. She bought a wedding dress and shoes that morning. Now we had no option but to simply get married in her church. Which we did on the 26th of April. Now we will talk next week to decide if I will go back with corrected paper work, or if I will file for a K-1 VISA. I want the K-3 because it gives her so many more imediate priveleges, and I can get her mother over here faster for a visit, or visa versa. We will see. But I am happy! Where is Zink?

STeve

... in response to Re: congrats, posted by Quasimoto on May 29, 2002

Good for you. K3 probably will be faster, but I am not aware of all the details of the process.

Zink is in Vladivostok :) I am sure he will share details when he comes back,

RW

... in response to Re: Small breasts and other such things, posted by Quasimoto on May 29, 2002

Thanks for sharing that. I am not surprised at the result.

... in response to Re: Re: Small breasts and other such thi..., posted by thesearch on May 29, 2002

Your welcome!

... in response to Whoops, I got engaged!, posted by Ramblin on May 29, 2002

Ramblin,
Don't kid yourself, EVERYONE should have some doubts when they get married.  The only one's that don't, are not being realistic.  Marriage like any relationship is filled with many unknowns and is wrought with risks.  It is the love that you feel for each other that makes the risks worth taking.
You will have your hands full with American guys once your beauty is here.  If she is attracting the attention in Ukraine as you say, AM will not be able to take their eyes off of her.  I have witnessed it first hand.  Guys (with or without their mates) will sneak a look at her as you pass by.  Most will be subtle about it, but some will not.  Try and take their glances as compliments to your good taste in women.  I have handled most of it well.  I have a difficult time occasionally when the "looker" is rude.  I have asked a few to back off and close their open mouth.  LOL.  Ahh, but this is the burden you must carry when you marry a beautiful woman.  The important thing is to have trust in her.  Without trust, this problem will eat you alive.  Best of luck to you.
KenC

... in response to Who doesn't have doubts?, posted by KenC on May 29, 2002

Without that unquestionable trust the doubts will eat you up. It is quite humerous sometimes to watch these guys make fools of themselves.

The first time that I took my wife to Walmart a stockboy ran right into an end display gawking at her. Another time in Safeway this guy ran the cart right into his wifes fat @ss when she stopped in front of him while he was checking out V (he got a severe chewin' out right then and there).

You do have to have restraint with the jerks sometimes though. I've wanted to pop a couple of the more insistant ones but when V reminded me that I was the only one for her I realized that it just wasn't worth the trouble.

... in response to Well put..., posted by Rags on May 30, 2002

Rags,
I have stories about guys knocking down endcap displays in grocery stores too!  Once while having a Sunday breakfast with friends at a nice family restaurant, a guy became fixed on Lena.  Casual looking is fine, but this guy stared at her through the entire time there.  He even creeped out my friend's son as the boy thought the guy was staring at him.  As we left, the guy couldn't stop staring with his mouth open.  I turned back and went to his table.  I asked him if he might like a photo of my wife so that he could continue to look at her from the privacy of his own home and not make such a fool of himself in public.  He was speechless.  I am sure he had an interesting conversation with his wife and children after we left.  LOL.
KenC

... in response to Whoops, I got engaged!, posted by Ramblin on May 29, 2002

Let me be the first to congratulate you. Well, done. From my interaction with fsu women, I think you made the best choice of you life. Be well.
dex

... in response to Re: Whoops, I got engaged!, posted by dexion on May 29, 2002

How long did you correspond and how long did you visit in person before you popped the question. I am asking for curiosity not to dump on you...
dex