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Title: Hmmm Post by: Deckard on February 06, 2002, 05:00:00 AM Everyone, I just received a disturbing e-mail from Olga (Olenka-club's owner) telling me that someone had e-mailed her, and said: "I came to your site looking for the beautiful Lyudmila who is 24-25 years old. But I do not find her. There is a man who is posting her picture on a website and she is beautiful. I am very interested in meeting her...if she is available and not engaged and I will pay a big price to meet her." Olga told me it has to be my fiance Luda. The fact that he knew she was on her agency site before, knew her name, and knew her approximate age, means that he almost certainly read my trip reports, and therefore knows she is already engaged. It's too late, but I'll do what I can. I'm removing the link to her pictures in my profile, and I'm password protecting her pictures. I was warned about putting the URL up for everyone to see the pictures, but I thought I would be "nice" and share our pictures with everyone who wanted to see, without the trouble of e-mailing me and explaining who they were. No more. -Deckard Title: That guy would be wasting his time Post by: BubbaGump on February 07, 2002, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Hmmm, posted by Deckard on Feb 6, 2002
I think somebody (or somebodies) is trying to mess with all the PL board members they can. A regular guy would assume that it was a waste of time to try and get that girl away from you because you are way better looking than most guys doing this. She put a death grip on you and not let you get away. Title: Re: Hmmm Post by: JeffB on February 07, 2002, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Hmmm, posted by Deckard on Feb 6, 2002
Deckard, I recently saw someone on match that sounds alot like your fiancee. Do you have a picture available that you could e-mail me to confirm my suspicions? (Given some my correspence with her, I believe that a third party is using her pictures while attempting a scam). Thanks, Title: Oh Sheesh! Post by: MarkInTx on February 09, 2002, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Re: Hmmm, posted by JeffB on Feb 7, 2002
JeffB, Or whoever you are... what a lame attempt! "recently saw someone on match that sounds alot like your fiancee" Yeah...right. SOUNDS a lot like her? What does that mean??? you saw someone who was blonde, russian, and pretty. OHMIGOD! DOYATHINK? NO! WHAT ARE THE CHANCES OF THAT??? This is a lame attempt at trying to be some sort of a sick voyeur and get a thrill at seeing someone else's woman's photos. Go away! Get a life! Title: JeffB... Post by: Deckard on February 07, 2002, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Re: Hmmm, posted by JeffB on Feb 7, 2002
JeffB, I will not e-mail you a picture of her. I don't know who you are, I don't see you posting on this board. Nothing personal. I think you should be able to understand where I'm coming from. If your intentions are sincere, then I think you'll understand my request that you post the link to your "suspicions" and let me see what you're talking about. If you are already corresponding with "her" I will be able tell you whether or not you're dealing with the real person. Thanks, -Deckard Title: Danger... suspicious domain... Post by: BarryM on February 08, 2002, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to JeffB..., posted by Deckard on Feb 7, 2002
Whois Server Version 1.3 Domain names in the .com, .net, and .org domains can now be registered No match for domain "BGKGROUP". Last update of whois database: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 17:11:08 EST The Registry database contains ONLY .COM, .NET, .ORG, .EDU domains and -blm Title: What a Shame. Board Terrorism . . . Post by: Dan on February 07, 2002, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Hmmm, posted by Deckard on Feb 6, 2002
Is not unlike the more standard form - in that people like Paul S/Drew/whatever get their jollies out of the disruption they create. Deckard - a great many people here have offered their appreciation for your sharing your experiences and photos of your extended visit with your fiance. I'd like to join in their chorus and just let you know that your openness was most appreciated. While this chorus of compliments has been pretty large by our board standards, you can be assured that there are probably 10 times (maybe 100 times) as many readers that have enjoyed and appreciated your reports that do not, themselves, post on the board. While I wholeheartedly support any decision you feel is necessary to protect your loved ones, I'd also like to ask you to not bend to the wishes of the 'terrorists.' As others have offered, this board is most useful when it allows people to do exactly as you have done and share your experiences with the world. Patrick does a terrific job with protecting us where it is possible, but it is an unfortunate reality that there are many out there who seek to disrupt and injure. A small minority perhaps, but in substantial numbers that it renders prudence and protections necessary. A balance that we all must face in our daily routines - and in our internet interactions - is how we will adjust those routines to strike a balance between prudent protection while still living full lives - amidst a known terrorist threat. It is not an easy balance to strike. Anyway Deckard - just again to say that your reports were entertaining and informative. It is truly a loss if you choose to withdraw - though I fully appreciate your prerogative and your need to do so - if that is what you choose. Good Luck! - Dan Title: That goes for me also n/t Post by: thesearch on February 07, 2002, 05:00:00 AM Title: Re: Hmmm Post by: hockeybrain on February 07, 2002, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Hmmm, posted by Deckard on Feb 6, 2002
You are doing the right thing, but I doubt the idiot would really follow through. Your girl is dreaming about you right now. Do not worry. The guy has no ethics and will get his some day. Title: Re: Hmmm Post by: terry on February 07, 2002, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Hmmm, posted by Deckard on Feb 6, 2002
Deckard Did Olga give you the address from the e-mail? It may be you can find out where it came from. I had just started writing a lady thur her service and feel she and eugene are good people, but this sounds a lttle funny to me. If she got an e-mail, there has to be an e-mail address it came from. If you coudl get that , you could write this person and find out what is going on, I would think. Title: Re: Hmmm Post by: terry on February 07, 2002, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Hmmm, posted by Deckard on Feb 6, 2002
Deckard Did Olga give you the address from the e-mail? It may be you can find out where it came from. I had just started writing a lady thur her service and feel she and eugene are good people, but this sounds a lttle funny to me. If she got an e-mail, there has to be an e-mail address it came from. If you coudl get that , you could write this person and find out what is going on, I would think. Title: I am sorry to hear this.. Hope all goes well nt. Post by: jj on February 07, 2002, 05:00:00 AM Title: Or....It could be Post by: MarkInTx on February 07, 2002, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Hmmm, posted by Deckard on Feb 6, 2002
You know, it could be that he had her profile page book marked from a previous look through the catalog... then he decided to get serious...went back to look for her, and she was gone. That actually has happened to me before. Of course, I never wrote the agency owner offering a bounty... that part is weird. But... thanks for sharing the pictures, anyway :-) It helped inspire us all Title: Too bad that a few jerks ruin Post by: tim360z on February 07, 2002, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Hmmm, posted by Deckard on Feb 6, 2002
good communication. I really enjoyed reading your experience and trip reports and I enjoyed your photos. It is what this board should be about. I wish you and Luda the best. I am sick of all these spazo physchologically unfit characters popping up here. Deckert, feel free to email me anytime at tim360z@aol.com I got a couple questions for you. Best, Tim Title: Will do, Tim, but tomorrow, gotta go to bed, -nt Post by: Deckard on February 07, 2002, 05:00:00 AM Title: I wouldn't worry too much, Post by: BrianN on February 07, 2002, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Hmmm, posted by Deckard on Feb 6, 2002
unless this FOOL, that is sending this kind of crud is actually intent on going there. It's a dam good thing that you've got an honest relationship with the agency owner/interpreter, that will tell you this. It's actually quite easy to have Olga block receipt of emails from this idiot, a click of the mouse on outlook express (which is quite commonly used in russia), to block the sender, will stop the problem from recurring as it stands now. Additionally, I'd definitely send Luda an email explaining the situation. Relax.... unless you're just worthless and a bum, you've got absolutely nothing to worry about. Let her know what is happening. The truth does work, if your relationship is on the right footing. If not, then... maybe it's time to change venue. Talk to you soon. Brian. Title: What are you worrying about?... Post by: Stevo on February 07, 2002, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Hmmm, posted by Deckard on Feb 6, 2002
If your fiancee is true, then you have nothing to worry about. Who cares if someone sends her e-mails or wishes to meet her? She's engaged and presumably will respond to any new suitors saying she's not interested. But if it turns out she is interested...then you might just have unwittingly saved yourself a lot of future heartache. Stevo Title: That wasn't it. Post by: Deckard on February 07, 2002, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to What are you worrying about?..., posted by Stevo on Feb 7, 2002
Stevo, I'm not at all worried about that, in fact... until you mentioned it, your test did not even come into my mind. Besides, she's already getting suitors all the time, despite wearing a ring. I trust that she will deal with them appropriately. If she doesn't, than she's not meant to be my wife. And if I so much as give her the impression that I doubt her loyalty, she will cry, and then feel deep pain. Then she will strike back at me, as many women do when they are hurt. I know this exactly, because it's happened before. My reason for making the pictures private is that I'm worried about my future wife's safety. Maybe I do not need to worry. I don't really think anything could come of it. But then again, I didn't really think anything negative could come from me sharing pictures of my fiance with readers of this board in the first place. I learned. I recently read that some guy is claiming to be engaged to Meg Ryan, and broke into some family's home, who's last name was Ryan. He claimed he was looking for the actress. So the point is.... you never know. What drives someone to "stalk" someone else to such extreme degrees? I don't know. Is this all needless paranoia on my part? Maybe. But you know what? I don't care. As long as I have this concern inside me, am I going to keep taking chances? He11 no. She means too much to me. -Deckard Title: Re: That wasn't it. Post by: thesearch on February 07, 2002, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to That wasn't it., posted by Deckard on Feb 7, 2002
Follow your gut. Never a need to explain that. Sorry this happened. However, if I might comment, you do not know for sure that it has anything to do with this forum and your postings. You are assuming. That is fine to do. Also, you can not compare issues of celebreties with us common folk. Everything is going to be fine. This is just one of those "What is this crap about?" and your speculations. Thanks again for your wonderful posts. Title: Trust? Post by: tim360z on February 07, 2002, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to That wasn't it., posted by Deckard on Feb 7, 2002
If you don't give trust...you will not get any. And if you doubt her, she will be very upset. I recently had that problem occur due to a communication problem. I never saw so much emotionalism and hurt and saddness from someone. Trust is the #1 ingredient, so trust her. And you have spent alot of time with her and her family...so you know her better than anybody. And 1 other thing. Most good looking girls there get so many stupid letters from all over the world... Most are not looking for another batch of letters coming in over the transom...they are looking for 1 good guy...a lifespartner. You have spent months with her and her family and you are so far ahead of the game in her book. Probably the very last thing Luda wants is another letter from some guy she doesn't know saying blah! blah! Title: Re: Trust? Exactly what we need!!:)) Post by: Jeff on February 07, 2002, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Trust?, posted by tim360z on Feb 7, 2002
Yeap!! I sgree! Trust, trust, trust!!! Said well!!! Oksana Title: He has a lot to worry about... Post by: BarryM on February 07, 2002, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to What are you worrying about?..., posted by Stevo on Feb 7, 2002
You don't understand Stevo. This is not about faithfullness, it's about harrassment. The scumbag that gets her info could start harrassing her. This is a very serious situation. Some psychos will go at great lengths to intimidate an harrass people. -blm Title: It is a hate campaign... Post by: BarryM on February 07, 2002, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Hmmm, posted by Deckard on Feb 6, 2002
against this board. It may very well be John Drew, but there are several candidates that are out to cause us trouble. This all started around the first or second week of January when John Drew started his attacks on Brama and Jack, so he is a prime suspect. Olenka-Club is probably a target now because Jack gave a good recomendation for them. Now you know why I don't post an email here. Now you know why I don't want to send identifying information to anyone on here. The only one here who has my email is Jack, and I worry about an email virus sucking out his address book on his PC. That could happen to anyone here, especially those who are not PC savvy. There are evil scumbags out there who are specifically targeting members of this board for harrassment and they are looking for any way to cause problems. I would advise Luda of the situation ASAP. Patrick should have banned John Drew(Paul S) the first day he started harrassing the board. This is getting to be a serious situation. Virus attacks are a federal crime. Jack needs to report John Drew to the cops since he has JD's info. -blm Title: Guess we're doing something right Post by: MarkInTx on February 07, 2002, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to It is a hate campaign..., posted by BarryM on Feb 7, 2002
TO draw so much ire from the real loasers... Too many success stories? Title: "Success" ?!? Post by: Dan on February 07, 2002, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Guess we're doing something right, posted by MarkInTx on Feb 7, 2002
Mark, I am struck by a couple of reactions to your post. First is - "success" may be defined in numerous ways. I, for one, thoroughly enjoy LP and I admire his analytical process to this pursuit. He has, indeed, become a bit jaded, but with good reason in his particular set of circumstances. I consider LP to be a "success" regardless of whether the outcome of his pursuit includes marriage to a RW or not. Along those same lines, I know of only a few people that post on this board that have crossed the 2 year mark of marriage. It is a remarkably shallow pool of statistics to extrapolate 'long-term' success from. I think most are merely sharing early experiences that offer hope, but not conclusive evidence. On the other hand, I clearly agree with you that the information on this board offers more substantially-useful information so as to avoid the various pitfalls than any other venue one may find. The information here is timely and seasoned with loads of first-hand experience. To that extent, I agree that we are seeing "success" as a result of participation on the board. In sum, I guess one needs to be clear about what it is that constitutes "success" for them. In my case, it is a long-term loving relationship filled with warmth, mutual respect, and partnership (I'm easy to please --smile--). I am off to a good start - but that is all it is to date. "Success"? not yet - but I am hopeful. For others, "success" may mean something much different. Just food for thought. - Dan Title: Frisbees and Dogs Post by: MarkInTx on February 08, 2002, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to "Success" ?!?, posted by Dan on Feb 7, 2002
I know what you mean... Once, I tried to teach my dog to catch frisbees. (I later learned the way I went about it was all wrong...but...) I took him out. Had him sit. Then threw the frisbee to him. He sat there and watched the frisbee. All of the way in. Unitl it clunked him between the eyes. I couldn't believe it. I backed up and repeated it again. Same result. Third time... he ducked. That is all I "taught" him. But it worked for him. He was no longer being clunked in the head. Come to think of it... I think there are remarkable parallels between that and LP... Title: If there are..... Post by: LP on February 08, 2002, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Frisbees and Dogs, posted by MarkInTx on Feb 8, 2002
...I don't see them. Care to elaborate? Title: Re: Frisbees and Dogs Post by: hockeybrain on February 08, 2002, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Frisbees and Dogs, posted by MarkInTx on Feb 8, 2002
What did you do to get him to catch the frisbee? Title: Nothing... I gave up n/t Post by: MarkInTx on February 08, 2002, 05:00:00 AM Title: Re: Hmmm Post by: Rags on February 07, 2002, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Hmmm, posted by Deckard on Feb 6, 2002
Thanks for posting your pictures. I really enjoyed seeing some of the sights in Crimea again but it looks like this Board has drawn the attention of some real scumbags intent on inflicting serious damage. We just thought that the weekend troll attacks were annoying. It looks like it is time to get real anonymous and delete all our e-mails from anyone that we do not know. A real sad state of affairs but I guess we had it good for a long time and just didn't appreciate it. Title: Re: Re: Hmmm Post by: micha1 on February 07, 2002, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Re: Hmmm, posted by Rags on Feb 7, 2002
There are always people around, the sad and miserable one, who will try for different reasons to interfere into other persons happiness. This could be two things, a person intending to ruin you relationship or a person wanting to be in your shoes, the shoes a good guy, happy and looking at the future with high hopes. It is true that the agency has the address of the sender of this message, so it can be settle easily. You will never be able to stop some of the people to look at your situation with envy. We all do this at times, see some guy walking by with a lovely doll at his arm and wonder.............. Your actions were very positive up to now, you are a bright guy, you will find the answer, I am sure. |