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Title: Update Post by: paulw on September 12, 2005, 04:00:00 AM Hi Guys
Quick update. I´ve just met 3 girls today from the agency Amor De Cartagena in Plaza de Santo Domingo in the centre of Cartagena. They were ok except one. She sat there like a sack of potatoes and hardly said a word. She was very hard work but you have to take the bad with the good. I could not wait to get rid of her! The girl I like the best is the waitress. We just had a conversation and she asked if they were all my girlfriends!! I told her the truth that I am looking for a girlfriend / wife in Colombia bla bla bla. I asked if she had a boyfriend e.t.c and she said no and I asked her for her number. She said she will give it me later after my fourth appointment as I had to tell her that I was meeting a fourth girl here today also!! Later Title: Re: Update Post by: JaySlo on September 12, 2005, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to Update, posted by paulw on Sep 12, 2005
Just be sure to let her know you still want to get to know her. Even if she says no, let her know you respect that but will not give up. Play your honesty card, you have been above board with her and let her know you will continue to do so. Most important is that you control the situation. If she feels she can make you wait NOW (or control you) without really knowing you, just think of the future my man. If she isn't ready to give you her number real soon, the word is proxima! Too many fish in the sea. You have to sing that last sentence! Title: Re: Update Post by: beenthere on September 12, 2005, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to Update, posted by paulw on Sep 12, 2005
very curious as to why she wouldn't give you the number right then and there?? Hopefully she's not blowing you off, but maybe you shouldn't have told her you had another date at that same restaurant. You should have called the girl and set it up somewhere else. I doubt if the waitress really wants to see you courting yet ANOTHER girl in front of her, and even worse with her waiting on you...I'd wager to say that the waitress probably isn't interested due to that fact...If she was REALLY interested she would have given you the number immediately. Hopefully you can post up and prove me wrong... Good luck! Title: Re: Re: Update Post by: Looking4Wife on September 12, 2005, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to Re: Update, posted by beenthere on Sep 12, 2005
Beenthere: I'll bet the waitress really IS interested, but she didn't want to make herself seam TOO "easy". She wanted to make him sweat a little bit. After all, she's got to watch him parade these other chicas in front of her, he's in total control. The least she can do is make him wait for a phone number, which gives her control. She wins either way. Plus it gives her time to decide if she even wants to give her number to him, depending on what she observes with how he "behaves himself" with the last girl. She may decide not to give the number to him, even if she is legitimately interested. Mis dos pesos... Title: Update Post by: Cali James on September 12, 2005, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to Re: Re: Update, posted by Looking4Wife on Sep 12, 2005
[This message has been edited by Cali James] I disagree, she sounds lukewarm at best. I'll give you my number later could very well be just an "out" so she doesn't have to confront the guy with a flat out "no". Many Colombianas don't like direct confrontation, they'll frequently make an excuse that might seem like a maybe but it really means "no way". I don't pretend to be an expert on all Colombian women but it seems to me the worst thing a gringo can do is waste time on lukewarm women and maybes. If a Colombiana is interested in you it will be obvious even for the inexperienced. Guys on vacations with limited time, should just ignore women who give off these vibes. This isn't the good ol' USA, a gringo in Latin America has choices and options.... Title: Re: Re: Re: Update Post by: beenthere on September 12, 2005, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to Re: Re: Update, posted by Looking4Wife on Sep 12, 2005
These aren't American women, they don't think that way...believe me, if she was interested, she would have given him her number IMMEDIATELY... Title: Re: Update Post by: Beattledog on September 12, 2005, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to Update, posted by paulw on Sep 12, 2005
That is great. Everyone is excited to receive the updates from you on a continual basis. You are doing great
Title: Re: Update Post by: Looking4Wife on September 12, 2005, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to Update, posted by paulw on Sep 12, 2005
Thanks for the play-by-play update. This is much more interesting than Chris Berman on ESPN :-) Title: Re: Re: Update Post by: Snoopy on September 12, 2005, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to Re: Update, posted by Looking4Wife on Sep 12, 2005
SHE! --- COULD! --- GO! --- ALL! --- THE! --- WAY!!! Title: Re: Re: Re: Update Post by: paulw on September 13, 2005, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to Re: Re: Update, posted by Snoopy on Sep 12, 2005
The fourth date went very well. She was very pretty and had a sweet personality. We got on quite well and I made her laugh a few time in my limited spanish. I toook this girls number and said I would call her. We said our goodbyes and I turned around to look for the waitress to get the bill (and hopefully number). I found her sat behind me with another waiter. She did not look to happy as she took my money for the bill and spoke very very fast in Spanish (that made a couple of the other waiters laugh)which I did not understand but I understood her last word as she spoke it in English. BYE - I did not get the number! Title: Re: Re: Re: Re: Update Post by: beenthere on September 13, 2005, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to Re: Re: Re: Update, posted by paulw on Sep 13, 2005
hate to say I told you so, but... Title: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Update Post by: pablo on September 13, 2005, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to Re: Re: Re: Re: Update, posted by beenthere on Sep 13, 2005
It appears that she did not like how your fourth cita went, and was probably eavesdropping. If you are really interested in her I bet if you went back a few times SOLO to that restaurant she might soften up enough to give you another chance. At least you already know one of her character traits...un poco celosa. Title: Update Post by: Cali James on September 14, 2005, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Update, posted by pablo on Sep 13, 2005
[This message has been edited by Cali James] Hey Pablo, I'm with Beenthere on this one. I doubt the woman was much interested to begin with. If she was truly interested, I think she would have given her number on the spot. It seems to me that when you're in Colombia, the land of plenty, pursuing women who are less than excited to go out with you, is a waste of the most precious resource you have in Colombia, that being time. Guys need to learn to deprogram the kind of thought processes they've learned while dating gringas. A guy has many more choices, oppurtunities and even control in Colombia than back home. Guys IMO should be pursuing women who show genuine interest in them and ignore all women who give off the kind of vibes illustrated in this story. Title: Re: Update Post by: pablo on September 14, 2005, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to Update, posted by Cali James on Sep 14, 2005
Hi James, I agree with everything you said. I was just thinking that since Paulw does have some time on his hands and if he was really interested in that lady he still has a chance with her. He's probably already figured out that there are many options for a guy here in Colombia unlike back in the States and I imagine England, where Paul is from. Who wants to mess with an overly jealous Latina playing games? BTW, IBM's rock! :-) Title: Update Post by: Cali James on September 14, 2005, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to Re: Update, posted by pablo on Sep 14, 2005
Hey Paul, glad you like your Thinkpad. I think you got a good price. BTW, we sold our PC division recently including Thinkpads to China, it's no longer IBM but called LENOVA. Title: I agree, wholeheartedly Post by: Looking4Wife on September 14, 2005, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Update, posted by pablo on Sep 13, 2005
I agree with Pablo, which is exactly what I stated above before the 4th cita. The waitress "waited" things out to decide whether to give the number or not. If she wasn't interested, then there would be no signs of jealousy. Obviously she is/was interested, but didn't like the 4th cita results, or simply grew tired of the chica parade taking place right before her ojos. Title: Re: I agree, wholeheartedly Post by: beenthere on September 14, 2005, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to I agree, wholeheartedly, posted by Looking4Wife on Sep 14, 2005
she is/never was interested...trust me on this... Title: Educate me... Post by: Looking4Wife on September 14, 2005, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to Re: I agree, wholeheartedly, posted by beenthere on Sep 14, 2005
Then why all the jealousy and/or sudden harsh treatment? Why not just be ambivalent? Title: Re: Educate me... Post by: beenthere on September 14, 2005, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to Educate me..., posted by Looking4Wife on Sep 14, 2005
[This message has been edited by beenthere] Who said she was jealous??? She would have given him his number from the get-go if she was really interested, that's how most latin women are. They don't play games...if there is an attraction on their part, they will make it known that they want to be with you. Now, having said that, he might have been able to salvage this (maybe) if he would have taken my advice and not met the next girl there, and come back later saying he cancelled the date because he wanted to be with her (the waitress)...If the waitress had even a little interest in the guy, this would have helped...but I really doubt there was any great genuine interest on her part. I think the waitress viewed him as a player, and for that, never REALLY was interested...In her mind there are enough "mujeriegos" in Colombia...why complicate things with a gringo "mujeriego" flaunting women in front of her?? Now, maybe her apparent "jealousy and harsh treatment" was more of saying..."you say you are different than Colombian men and are sincere in looking for a wife, but you've just slobbered over 4 women in front of me, and then have the balls to ask me for my phone number?? bite my ass..." Gringos going to Colombia make a huge error when thinking that all Colombian women are just dying to meet a gringo, have a relationship, and get married, when it's just not the case... Title: Re: Re: Educate me... Post by: OkieMan on September 14, 2005, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to Re: Educate me..., posted by beenthere on Sep 14, 2005
Beenthere, Pardon me for getting into this conversation. You are probably right, but I noticed that your profile gives no info; so could you share a little about your experience with latinas, and maybe your background? It just helps the rest of us to get a better prospective about someone giving out advice. I have never been in a situation that resembles what the other poster described, so I have no clue. But, I am curious. OkieMan Title: Re: Re: Re: Educate me... Post by: beenthere on September 14, 2005, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to Re: Re: Educate me..., posted by OkieMan on Sep 14, 2005
[This message has been edited by beenthere] Have made over 40 trips to Colombia since 1994 (the majority since 1998), was married to a Caleņa (my mistake), fluent in spanish, have many Colombian friends (both female & male), still maintain contact with many women I've met over the years in Colombia. Being fluent in spanish is the key to getting to know these women and how they think, how they feel about gringos, their goals, etc... Title: Good points... (no text) Post by: Looking4Wife on September 14, 2005, 04:00:00 AM |