Title: New Guy Perspective, Food for Thought for P-L Post by: teoblas on September 19, 2005, 04:00:00 AM Just about every issue I have seen on planet love boils down to somebody being caught in one or more of the following 13 traps.... Untangle yourselves from these traps, climb out of these self imposed boxes, and your pursuit of well-being and happiness (including well-being and happiness that comes through a sentimental relationship with a Latina or any other person) will be more productive.
THE 13 TRAPS (Note: TBT = The Belief That) 1. The Identity Trap 2. The Intellectual and Emotional Traps 3. The Morality Trap 4. The Unselfishness Trap 5. The Group Trap 6. The Government Traps 7. The Despair Trap 8. The Rights Trap 9. The Utopia Trap 10. The Burning-issues Trap 11. The Previous Investment Trap 12. The Box Trap 13. The Certainty Trap The above is my summary of Part 1 of the book: How I Found Freedom in an Unfree World by Harry Brown, first printing 1974. Best book I ever read! Teo Blas Title: Re: New Guy Perspective, Food for Thought for P-L Post by: Pete E on September 19, 2005, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to New Guy Perspective, Food for Thought fo..., posted by teoblas on Sep 19, 2005
Ted, Very very good.I was going to ask where you got that,then you posted it at the bottom.Another friend of mine highly recommends that book.Maybe I should buy it even if I think I already know this stuff. In a post below I talked about the Libertain party,my reactions to them and also similar if more belated reasctions to them by Burbuja,the New Orleans attorney who used to post here.He was seriously in to them ,would attrend their conventions. I actually voted for Harry Brown in 2000.By the time I went to the polls in California there was no contest there,so I just made a statement of principle voting for Harry Brown. But,I wouldn't put him in charge.Too far out on some stuff.But the line I liked from the concvention that year,in his acceptance speech,was he intended to be around a long time and was concerned about the country.He said something like,"I am only 62 years old.I could be around 20 or 30 years,who knows,maybe 40 or 50 if we get rid of the FDA." I am a libertarian at heart.But I do not think zero income tax is wise,or more importantly that we should consider ourselves an island in the World.The world is too small now for the biggest power in it to pull a sheet over their head.We have a duty that comes with that power.And I for one think taking out the Saddam Housiens,Edi Amins and Pol Pots is a needed service to humanity.Nobody with any guts around at the time to deal with the first 2. Ted where have you been?We knew so little about you untill now.I guess you are not a guy to blow your own horn,but go for it,you have ALOT to offer. And this board and another one I know has been seroiusly lacking in much substance for awhile.Turned over to intertainment and bickering to a large extent. Welcome,welcome,welcome. Pete Pet Title: Re: Re: New Guy Perspective, Food for Thought for P-L Post by: Brazilophile on September 19, 2005, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to Re: New Guy Perspective, Food for Though..., posted by Pete E on Sep 19, 2005
"And I for one think taking out the Saddam Housiens,Edi Amins and Pol Pots is a needed service to humanity.Nobody with any guts around at the time to deal with the first 2." Pete, Do you sincerely believe that??? I am not going to get deep into politics again, but don't you think the US was strong enough during the 50's, 60's, and 70's to take out anyone they wanted to? Don't you think they did???? The assassination of Salvadore Allende of Chile in 1973 wsa a CIA backed operation. The assassination of the first democratically elected prime mninister of the newly independent Zaire, Patrice Lumumba, was engineered by the CIA as was the later installation of Gen. Mobutu Sese Seko as president for life. Didn't Reagan try to take out Col. Khadafi of Libya, killing one of his sons in the process? The US has a long history of eliminating foreign leaders who threaten US economic interests (read communist/socialist) and of supporting leaders who aid US economic interests, regardless of how brutal those leaders are to their own people. Condi Rice just admitted that a few weeks ago. We installed the Shah of Iran, we installed Saddam Hussein, we back the Saud family, we back the Hussein family of Jordan. We can take out Assad of Syria. We don't because that will lead to civil war in yet another Mid-East country. Title: Re: Re: Re: New Guy Perspective, Food for Thought for P-L Post by: Pete E on September 19, 2005, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to Re: Re: New Guy Perspective, Food for Th..., posted by Brazilophile on Sep 19, 2005
Yes,we were strong enough.We could have taken out a Pol Pot,who killer several Million people I think it was in about 2 years VERY Easy.Idi Amin would have been a piece of cake.Both guys wouldn't have been 2 % of the Iraq effort. BUT,as you allude to,we were doing somthing quiet different,assisting taking out someone like Allende,not because he was a mass murderer,but because we did not like his polotics.We helped install a mass murderer,Pinochet. When I say a service to humanity I mean somebody who is trully awfull.Not something to be done litely.There is nobody else in power of that ilk now,the little idiot in North Korea does not rise to that level of Malicious intent.The 3 guys I mentioned do.Only Saddam got taken out.I think that was worth doing for a number of reasons,each sufficient to warrent it. Amazing I just watched a video of Bill Clinton Talking about Iraq on AOL.He basically said nothing,but showed me again that he is the type of guy who would have done nothing.Saddam invaded Kuwait.He torched the Oil wells on the way out.He thumbed his nose at the UN and Clinton for years.No doubt he was ready to try and take over the middle east any time anyone would let him.But more than that,he was a guy who if you spoke out against him his goons cut your tongue out,literally.We did the right thing.Its not easy.Doing the right thing usually is not. Bush,for all his flaws,has the guts to act.Something that has pretty much been sorely missing for many many year. People need to remember well Saddam Housein when they start to loose their guts,resolve and direction on Iraq I was a NOBLE thing to do.Worthy of a great country.We are lucky to have some young people who are willing to DIE for a Noble cause,for their fellow man.Not that they want to die,like the guys they are fighting. One other little thing we failed to do,although there was not an individual madman reszponsible.Clinton sat on his hands,more than that asctually urged European nations not to get involved,when 700,000 thousand people were butchered with matchetes in Rwanda.1000 marines could have stopped that,we might not have lost a single soldier in the effort.I hate racial comparisons,but I ABSOLUTELY BELIEVE we would not have allowed 700,000 white people in Europe for instance to be slaughtered.These were Africans,expendable people in a place not considered sufficiently valuable to get involved in.If BILL CLINTON WOULD HAVE BEEN WILLING TO STICK OUT HIS NECK OUT AS FAR AS HIS DICK HE COULD HAVE EASILY SAVED 700,000 HUMAN BEING FROM SLAUGHTER. That is not leadership,but cowardly.The only risks he was willing to take were in his personal life.He got more flack over a blow job than he would have had to face saving those people. A great country neads a great leader.Bush might not be that,but it is not for lack of sincerly tryin to be.He does not have to put his finger in the wind to determine his opinion,like the gutless wonder who proceeded him. My political rant for today.How did we get their from chicas?Oh yeah,Teds post about Harry Brown got me going political. One more little outrageous thing,no new post,re FEMA. Pete Title: You guys are getting stuck in Trap #10 Post by: teoblas on September 20, 2005, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to Re: Re: Re: New Guy Perspective, Food fo..., posted by Pete E on Sep 19, 2005
I didn't bother to fully read either of the last two posts because I am not interested in wasting my time or getting trapped in that burining issue box.... I am too busy enjoying my life. If anyone of us was an outstanding authority on this or any other burning issue or any of us were truly entertaining we would be getting paid big bucks as a consultant by somebody or their competition..... Who knows which one of you is right? Who cares? I know who knows and who cares, the people on the Planet-Political bulliten board..... I thought this was supposed to be a site dedicated to helping/advising guys connect and/or maintain a relationship with latinas??? (i.e. I need this help/advice, I have this help/advice) However, it appears it has become a site mostly about the guys (their lives, their friendships, and their issues) that want to connect with latinas... That is cool, lets just change the name to Planet-Gringo (i.e. this is my life, where is my buddy, remember when we did this in LA, everybody pay attention to my hang up for a minute, etc, etc...)
Title: Re: You guys are getting stuck in Trap #10 Post by: doombug on September 20, 2005, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to You guys are getting stuck in Trap #10, posted by teoblas on Sep 20, 2005
"I thought this was supposed to be a site dedicated to helping/advising guys connect and/or maintain a relationship with latinas???" Simple solution: Post topics that you want to discuss and ignore everything else. No one has or will stick with the strict guidelines you advocate. Title: Excuse me Teo... Post by: Ray on September 20, 2005, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to You guys are getting stuck in Trap #10, posted by teoblas on Sep 20, 2005
But if your time is so precious that you can’t waste it reading the post, how do you find time to comment? I thought you were too busy enjoying your life :-) Don’t you think it seems a tad arrogant for new guy to come on board and immediately start lecturing other members on what this forum is all about? Pete has been around here for a very long time and if he wants to express an opinion that you aren’t interested in, why not just skip over it and save the lecturing. You seem to think it’s O.K. to promote your business here but then you chastise others for expressing a personal opinion. Huh? Why don’t you lighten up and enjoy the forum as it is instead of trying to make it all about YOU and what YOU want? Ray Title: Your right. You win. Should I leave now? Have fun Post by: teoblas on September 20, 2005, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to Excuse me Teo..., posted by Ray on Sep 20, 2005
You got me and you win a prize! The prize is that you can feel free not to read any of my future posts... This is your neighborhood so I should follow the rules while I am visiting, right? I only have one point of confusion regarding what you have to say, and that is just like there are no rules in a knife fight how can there be any rules in a bulliten board open to stream of consciousness chatter? :-/ Most of my reading on Planet-Love was done while I visited the US on other business and was otherwise bored out of my mind. I got a lot of information from the board and many times I only read Pete's and a few other individuals posts for all the jewels of info they provided. I obtained a lot of info from this site and my half dozen posts have been my feeble attempt to give something back. My comments at the begining of this thread were intended to be constructive, and to summarize and add my two cents worth to what I thought others (who I thought had a lot to offer) said as they temporarially or permanently signed off from Planet-Love. Double Peace Title: Calm down... Post by: Ray on September 20, 2005, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to Your right. You win. Should I leave no..., posted by teoblas on Sep 20, 2005
Did someone tell you to leave? I must have missed that part :-) Sorry Teo, there are no “prizes” on this forum. Just a bunch of guys and a few gals expressing their opinions and sharing their experiences. My opinions are no better than yours or Pete’s or Brazilophile’s or anyone else’s here. Like any Web forum, this forum has it’s own culture. Some like it as it is and some don’t. You’re free to take it or leave it. Just because you don’t like something you read here, you don’t have to insult us all by pretending that you’re better than the rest of us. We have a good moderator already and I don’t think we need another one. You asked “…how can there be any rules in a bulliten board open to stream of consciousness chatter? I’m not sure exactly what you’re asking Teo. This is not MY neighborhood. I don’t make the rules here, the owner does. They are posted under the “Forum FAQ” section. Maybe some of us sometimes get a little bit off topic but why are you so hyper about it? You didn’t pay to participate here…it’s free! You’re bending the rules a little also by promoting your Web site and your business on the forum, but no one is lecturing you on that little indiscretion, are they? So why not live and let live, and get what you can out of this forum without all the condescending lecturing? Perhaps you’re caught in your own Trap #9? Of course you’re free to offer your opinions, and you can insult us all you like, but please don’t whine if you get a negative response, O.K.? Thanks. Now that’s just my opinion. Have a nice day :-) Ray Title: Re: You guys are getting stuck in Trap #10 Post by: Pete E on September 20, 2005, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to You guys are getting stuck in Trap #10, posted by teoblas on Sep 20, 2005
Yup, "For problems that affect you seek direct alternatives, others are free to live their life as they want" Seems Harry is saying just look out for number one.F--k everybody else. Then WHY did HE run for president? Seems Harry,who sounds good in general,can't even follow his own advice. But,your point is well taken,it has little to do with latinas,we somehow did a tangent from latinas to where we would up. I will admit I find I like expressing myself.Some other guy sometimes are interested,or I might be interested in their opinions.If we stuck strickly to the subject not much might get said here,as I told you we have been lacking in subsytance for along time. And of course,there is the option you exercised,don't read it. At least it wasn't a flame war,thats the worst use of space here. And maybe it was filling a void,which should be filled with relevant posts,so we are waiting for some. Pete |