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... in response to personalmeetings.com, posted by cid325 on Aug 29, 2005

Personalmeetings.com is the web site of Walter Mora.I know Walter and have used his services.In my case some good friends hit town and were only going to be here for 2 days.
Walter got on the phone and got a number of girls together for 2 different parties,the first one being about 4 hours after my friends hit town.We are not talking pros here but good girls who were willing to show up on short notice,party with us and meet my friends.So it worked very well for them on short notice.
Walter has a web site at the above address with maybe 150-200 girls on it that he will introduce you too.
But what he is better known for is going with you to malls or other locations and introducing you to interesting girls you might see.So you are not limited at all to agency girls.Lots of guys talk about meeting women in the malls,ect,but if you don't have good spanish and lots of guts its probably not going to happen.But Walter can make it happen.
One guy I know  went the regular agency route,met a girl he spent a few months with coming here quite often.When that didn't work he found Walter.Now every time I see him in Cali he is with Walter and usually some  good looking young women.I think for him he just found the personal service much more effective then going it on his own,even using other agencies who will only introduce you but not give you alot of personal assistance from there.
So for guys who prefer alot of personal assistance I think Walter is a good choice.

Pete

... in response to Re: personalmeetings.com, posted by Pete E on Aug 29, 2005

"Lots of guys talk about meeting women in the malls..."

I wonder if Colombian guys sit around chatting about hooking up with stray gringas in malls north of the equator...

Imagine the horror on their faces once they catch a glimpse of our floury (verse flowery) Walmart doves.

Yeah, yeah, beauty is in the eye of the inebriated.

... in response to Re: Re: personalmeetings.com, posted by doombug on Aug 30, 2005

What is it about Wallmart that brings out the corn fed Heifers?I guess they want good prices so they can eat more.
Fat momma with 5 little fat kids.Like momma like kids.

Pete

... in response to Re: personalmeetings.com, posted by Pete E on Aug 29, 2005

Geez, we're talking about Colombia here not Miami or NYC. You don't need much in the way of encouragement. The chicks fall over themselves trying to get you to talk to them. Cripes it's embarassing being in Medellin with my wife, the way the women flirt openly with her right next to me or not far away. I'm glad I don't live there - I love my wife but it would be a tough place for a guy to stay out of trouble.

... in response to Who needs guts?, posted by utopiacowboy on Aug 30, 2005

UC,

I assume you meant to say, the women flirting with you, not your wife?  I hope to be able to go to Medellin in the near future.  It sounds like a very nice place.

                            OkieMan

... in response to Who needs guts?, posted by utopiacowboy on Aug 30, 2005

I have even had that experience in the states,you are with one girl,the other girls give you the eye.If you are by yourself,they don't know you exist.
Seriously.Lots of guys need guts,because almost nobody is just meeting chicks that become relationships on the street.Lots of talk,little results reported.

Pete

... in response to Re: Who needs guts?, posted by Pete E on Aug 30, 2005

What about Pablo? He seems to do all right.

... in response to What about Pablo?, posted by utopiacowboy on Aug 31, 2005

He says he MEETS women.I have not heard about a relationship.But then he might be one of the successfull ones,nice guy,good spanish I think.I could not picture him approaching a woman in an offensive manner.He seems to have alot of class but still the guts to go for it.
Most guys have no success at all here,perhaps because they can not even bring themseles to try.

Pete

... in response to Re: What about Pablo?, posted by Pete E on Aug 31, 2005


Did I hear my name mentioned?

Thanks UC and Don Pedro for your kind words.  

I am meeting a number of lovely women of all ages despite the fact that my Spanish is just fair but I haven't met any lady yet that I am wanting a mutual commitment with because I'm looking for a very special person.  Living here has given me many opportunities to meet different women from all walks of life.  I'm very glad that I made the decision to live here most of the year because I'm not in a rush to get married even though I hope to get married again.  To be totally honest, there are too many women here of such incredible beauty (inside & out) it's hard to narrow down the search.  For example, I attended the ColombiaMODA (www.colombiamoda.com) show two weeks ago and met a number of ladies that I found very interesting.  I went out on a date with one model last Saturday and had a great time with her.  Later tonight, I will be having dinner with another model.  In time and with the Lord's help, I'll find that special lady but I'm certainly not complaining waiting with so many opportunities of getting to know some really sweet gals.

There is not anywhere near the opportunities for me back home in my small community because there are so few available desirable women and the age range is a factor in our culture.  Here it is so totally different.  I still have a hard time believing how many ways a guy can meet so many quality women here.  I had one lovely 25 year old lady call
me up the other evening just to ask me why I hadn't called her to spend time with her.  Most however are more old-fashioned and want the guy to make the first move.  Still, it was a nice little ego booster.  

I was with a Colombian friend early today at a popular mall, Unicentro.  We were getting a cup of coffee at an espresso bar and as we were leaving, I noticed a lovely lady around 26-7 waiting outside another business.  I commented to my friend about her beauty and asked if he agreed.  He took one look and said he was in love.  We decided to return and introduce ourselves and to my delight she was very friendly toward us.  It turned out she spoke fluent English having left Medellin at an early age and grew up in New York. She returned to visit family.

The best way to meet these lovely Colombianas is just try to be friendly, nice and outgoing.  Making friends (amigos y amigas) is perhaps the best way because they introduce you to their friends and things take off from there.  

I hope more of you guys that are considering living in Colombia or another SA country decide to take the plunge.  Having this extra time to find a sweetheart is something I felt was needed and a better route to go rather than the once or twice a year trip I was taking before.  You won't regret the hiatus from whatever you are leaving because the reward will be hundredfold.  For those that just can't leave, keep your chin up and continue your efforts in finding that special Latina.  

Suerte!

... in response to Re: Re: What about Pablo?, posted by pablo on Aug 31, 2005

Hi Pablo,

Thanks for sharing a little more with us about your situation and experiences in Medellin.  I know that you and I have exchanged emails about your experiences as well.  There now seems to be more awareness on this board of Medellin and the opportunities to meet quality ladies there.  That is good.  I hope to be able to travel there in the foreseeable future.  But, since you have given us more insight about the city and the location; I have another question or two.  Have you spent much time with Mike from Chicago?  I remember him commenting recently on setting up a coffee shop there, etc.  More importantly, I would like to find out if the ladies there know or understand much about the United States?  It would appear that most of the people (especially the ladies), have an overall good opinion about the United States.  Based on my own experiences in Cali, the ladies seem to enjoy meeting foreign men (especially if we are spending money on them).  But, I am interested to find out if the ladies of Medellin are in any way truly aware of our country, or is it just a nice, friendly feeling?  I am partly asking this because it has been said that overall, the ladies from Bogota and Medellin are better educated than the ladies from Cali (naturally, there are always varied levels of education).  But, I am talking about  a possibility of more awareness or knowledge about us and our country.  On the other hand, I have been told that since there are fewer agencies in Medellin, they don't see as many gringos.  Maybe you can shed some light concerning this?

                                 OkieMan

... in response to Re: Re: Re: What about Pablo?, posted by OkieMan on Sep 1, 2005

I wholeheartly agree w/ Pablo comment on difficult of meeting someone in 1 or 2 weeks!  I was in Medellin for 4 weeks, i had several internet contact prior to arriving, 7 girls.  Plus over the course of 4 weeks i met another 6 girls at bars, metro, or waiting for taxi.  Over those, i would say, 6 are good GF material and maybe 3 good wife material.  Just my luck, that i'm NOT looking for a GF or wife, so all the good luck i've had went to waste!  LOL!

But if you are only in country for 1 or 2 weeks then all you can hope for is to set the table for the NEXT trip.  

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Re: What about Pablo?, posted by caslug on Sep 1, 2005

Caslug,

Thanks for sharing, but if you are not looking for a girlfriend or wife, what are you looking for?  I am sure you must have some strong motivation for spending your time and money travelling to a beautiful city like Medellin?  I am not trying to pry, but you brought it up.  I am simply curious.  Take care.

                             OkieMan

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: What about Pablo?, posted by OkieMan on Sep 2, 2005

Okie,

I went to Medellin for two big events feira de flores and colombiamoda, you can see all the photos at my post down below.  Of course i also wanted female company to goto tourist places, practice spanish and party with.  I've had opp't to met chicas that were poor and uneducated to chicas that were  educated, professional, and had some money and everything in between.  So it gave me a good insight and understanding of the dating culture in Medellin.  

One thing i quickly realized was it is VERY EASY to meet new girls, you'll need basic spanish for this to apply.  However, once you met them, you still have to put in the same amount of work as in the US(ie, wine(beer) and dine them).  So the BIGGEST advantage a foriegner w/ some money has in COL(or any 3rd world country) is the EASE of MEETING the gals.  You'll meet SOO MANY of them just over the course of staying longer or living there(like pablo, pete, and others).  

Also, another thing i didnt like about COL is how early a date ends on the weeknights.  In the US, you can go out with a gal during weeknights until midnight or 1AM sometimes(esp if you're both having fun).  BUT, in COL ALL my dates during the weeknight ended by 11pm!(even when i pay the taxi home for them).  Because they have to get up and go to work/school the next morning.

... in response to Re: Re: Re: What about Pablo?, posted by OkieMan on Sep 1, 2005

[This message has been edited by pablo]

Hey OM,

I only briefly met Mike and didn't have the chance to spend much time with him.  I'm curious which coffee shop he purchased as that was my type of business before moving here.  Much of the coffee I've drunk here only serves poor to fair coffee (most of the higher grades being exported) so a place that serves good quality should do well.  "Cafe con piernes" anyone?

(http://www.photographer.cl/cgi-bin/photo/readcsvplus.pl?config=photo.pl&pmatches=1&page=282) :-0

There are many universities located in Medellin and it's very modern and upscale.  People are aware of what’s going on in the States and around the world and for the most part have a favorable impression of foreigners.  Bush and the war probably isn't on any young person's favorite list but there is no shortage of highly educated people here.  People used to be more cliquish but I've been told it's changing rapidly and has been for some time.

There are many foreigners living here and even more visiting.  I was talking with an expatriate this morning and he mentioned that in 2002 you would hardly ever see an American here.  It's much different now as there is a growing expatriate community and many guys that are coming to visit, are either looking for a wife or want to do some mongering or a combination of the two.  It's unfortunate in many ways because my personal feeling is that the more mongers that arrive the more it will become spoiled and make it harder for the guys with good intentions.  

Many Paisas love their Medellin and don’t really want to relocate but not to worry, if one falls in love with you I'm sure that she will be with her man.  I don't want to give the impression that one can easily find a wife in a week or two stay.  I know it's been done before (two success stories come to mind, Nikkyo and Utopiacowboy, way to go guys!) but the best method is staying as long as possible.  For example, would you travel to San Diego, CA for one or two weeks in search of a wife?  The chances of finding her are not in your favor and if you do find a hopeful you should take the needed time to get to know one another otherwise you (or her) might be in a BIG surprise later on in the relationship.  Why would a foreign country be any different?  If anything, the degree of difficulty is much greater.  For me, getting married again without having a normal dating relationship was something I did not want or risk doing which led to my decision to live here.

For those that can’t live here or stay for extended periods of time there will be another choice in regards to good introduction agencies besides CSH.  Lovegetaway.com will be opening in approximately one month.  For those that prefer the agency route you might want to take note and bookmark that site.  They are recruiting women now.  

Caution though, there are women you want to avoid in and out of agencies just as there are foreign men these ladies need to stay clear of but for the most part, I've met some very nice ladies.  Take a month or two off work OM and come for a visit and I think you will wholeheartedly agree.  Perhaps you'll find that special lady we are all looking for.

¡Suerte!

... in response to De nada, posted by pablo on Sep 1, 2005

Pablo, do you live in Medellin?

... in response to Re: De nada, posted by CelticUrge on Sep 2, 2005

.

... in response to Si!...n/t, posted by pablo on Sep 2, 2005

The reason I asked: I have spent a lot of time in Bogota and originally came to this forum looking for information on Cali. After reading, searching, interacting on forum, etc. I have changed my emphasis and desire more to go to Medellin. I'd like to get in touch privately with you or anyone else living there prior to me visiting. Thanks.

... in response to Re: Si!...n/t, posted by CelticUrge on Sep 2, 2005


Hi CU,

I'd be happy to answer any questions you might have and be of any help.  Contact me through my profile email address.

Regards.

... in response to Re: Re: Si!, posted by pablo on Sep 2, 2005

I'll send you a private email later today. Thanks.

... in response to De nada, posted by pablo on Sep 1, 2005

When I first went in early 2003, gringos were few and far between. There might have been only a couple of gringos on an entire plane full of people from Miami. In my case I went to meet one particular woman so I'm not really a good example to follow. Of course back then I knew very little Spanish and hardly anything about Medellin or Colombia. You're a lucky man, Pablo, and I am sure you will meet someone who enchants you.

... in response to Re: Who needs guts?, posted by Pete E on Aug 30, 2005

What about Pablo? He seems to do all right.

... in response to Who needs guts?, posted by utopiacowboy on Aug 30, 2005

Hell, and just think if Gator was with you...it would be like the Beatles and Elvis combined!!!

... in response to Re: personalmeetings.com, posted by Pete E on Aug 29, 2005

Hi Pete,

Are you aware of what your other friends paid Walter for his services, doing what you described? I am sure he has different options.  I have also written emails to Walter, but he quoted me a "Vip membership" price of $1200!  Ain't no ever lovin' way!!  I thought that you might have more insight on Walter, should I decide to use his services at some point in the future?   However, my ideas are on the "per cita" type concept, or maybe some hourly rate.  I just don't know if Walter would do it that way?  I realize those guys want to make money, but I am not interested in helping him to use my fees to retire on.   So, I just thought I would ask.  For me, it will be a good while before I am able to travel again.  But, I still like to consider my options before I travel. Take care.

                                OkieMan

... in response to Re: Re: personalmeetings.com, posted by OkieMan on Aug 29, 2005

I think his one year membership is $400.But you might be able to negotiate for the particular service you want.
I would advise anyone to talk to him about just what the service is they want and what the cost will be.My friend spends lots of time with him.I would immagine that would be more than the $400 but I don't know.
Prices in Cali tend to be  negotiable,depending on what each party expects.
And,for you he would be a good choice because you would get that extra help with things.

Pete