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Title: Here are the FACTS! Post by: Medellin Agency on June 13, 2005, 04:00:00 AM [This message has been edited by Medellin Agency]
ALL MEMBERS: As the owner of Colombian Sweethearts, CSH, I would like to respond to the Post on 6/11/05 from AnthonyPL: XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX Yes, I have used CSH. Steve is a good guy. His web site is kept up-to-date. His secretaries are probably the best of any agency in Colombia. The bed and breakfast is nice, too. However, both CSH and CLC are loaded with prostitutes and "prepagos" and so forth. Before you overreact, not all of the women in CSH are prostitutes - but there's a ton of them, though. I have a friend that is quite an expert in the "wild side" of Medellin. He took me to four locations one afternoon: I saw a minimum of 25 different CSH women at those locations. First, I ask “AnthonyPL” to look on my site and send me the Code numbers of the “25 girls”. I guarantee him and that we will research each lady he claims is working as a prostitute and I will post our findings on Planet Love. If they are prostitutes they will be removed immediately. I hope this should not be difficult, especially if he remembered them by face in each of the Strip Bars or Massage places. How does Colombian Sweethearts ENSURE A GIRL we are presenting to our clients is what she says and NOT A PROSTITUTE and an HONEST girl: 1. We INTERVIEW each girl in depth looking for “Red Flags” Colombian Sweethearts has already removed approximately 14 girls from our Agency for lack of honesty. Our files are an OPEN BOOK so I invite any visitor to Medellin and Colombian Sweethearts to verify what I have written. As I said in previous posts, we do the best to screen the girls that come to us, but YOU have to get to know her, her family and friends. Don’t rush into anything! The girl “Pete E” was referring to that was a stripper was removed the same day from the Agency after I investigated and she told me that she was a “Professional Dancer” and did dance at “FACE DOS,” but only as a dancer and not the "massage side." I removed her immediately even though she said she “only dances” and does not go with clients there. This was put into a previous post last year. “Pete E”, I will email you a picture of this girl to refresh your memory (I’m getting old too!) and you can see that she has not been on www.colombiansweethearts.com since last year when you came to Medellin. As a fellow gringo, I would never want to be introduced to a girl that is a prostitute expecting she is a serious women looking for a husband. I am a former military officer and currently a commercial pilot and I believe in honesty, integrity and quality of service. Our testimonials page: http://www.colombiansweethearts.com/testimonials.php, will verify this. I came to Colombian for the same reasons the rest of you guys on this site did, FED UP WITH SELF CENTERED WOMEN INTERSTED ONLY IN YOUR MONTHLY SALARY AND THEMSELVES. I just turned 42 and my girlfriend is 22, works as a accountant and has her own Beauty Salon with her sister. She’s drop dead beautiful, affectionate, and very family oriented. When I told her I was going to stay in Colombia if we got married said “GREAT!” even though she said she would leave if that’s what I wanted. My last girlfriend here, a professional model, was the same way. These are the girls from Colombia and Medellin! “Medellin Bob” who I bought out after 6 months, was and is running an illegal business, escort service and trying to mix the escorts with the marriage agency. Sorry, they don’t mix. His “Penthouse” was raided during Easter by about 10 Colombian Police. Luckily they were not there and none of their clients. His partner, The Australian Guy, Greg, also tried to hit me with a broken bottle in Mangos 2 weeks ago. Tells you a lot about their character. This all verifiable and some of this was discussed in previous posts. As far a QUALITY GIRLS in agencies: THERE ARE MANY!! The women that come to us are serious about finding a foreign husband or at least a serious relationship. It cuts out a lot of the spinning of wheels trying to meet girls in bars, street, etc., all of which is still possible. We always tell our clients to get out of the agency and experience the city and other women available. I run a first class agency not only for my clients, but also to attract QUALITY COLOMBIAN WOMEN. Unfortunately, unreputable agencies destroy this image and scare away the quality women. CSH has doctors, lawyers, students, poor girls, rich girls, etc. We leave the door open to every girl, as long as they are honest in their intentions. I had not been monitoring Planet Love since we just moved into a more beautiful and elegant house and I was sent AnthonyPL’s post. Thank you Gary. I want to thank all of the PL members that post here since there experiences in South America benefit us all. Thank you to PETE E, KILTBOY, PABLO, MUD who know me and CSH personally and all of the other guys who “SET THE FACTS STRAIGHT.” You guys keep this forum going. Any questions or comments please call or write us. We are an open book. Best regards, Title: Re: 25 women? Post by: DavidMN on June 14, 2005, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to Here are the FACTS!, posted by Medellin Agency on Jun 13, 2005
I will admit to only reading bits and pieces of this sordid affair, but if someone can scan internet profiles or look at photo books and then be certain of seeing at least 25 of those faces while visiting assorted strip clubs and whorehouses, then they've got an excellent memory, even more so if alcohol was involved. Maybe they've got a future as a card counter/professional poker player. ;-) Title: Re: Here are the FACTS! Post by: Kiltboy1 on June 14, 2005, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to Here are the FACTS!, posted by Medellin Agency on Jun 13, 2005
Steve Glad to see you back posting. I know you are an upfront guy and always give you good marks to anyone who asks. I know too about "MEDELLIN BOB" and his goings on. He will mess the city up if continues to try to attract that type of man to come to Medellin.If guys are looking for that, cali is there place, they have over 2000 casa there, so take your pick . Title: This works for me, Steve.... Post by: Hoda on June 14, 2005, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to Here are the FACTS!, posted by Medellin Agency on Jun 13, 2005
I know, that I speak for more than myself, in saying thanks for taking the time to post your response to the "Ant". I'm hoping that you & other agency owners find the environment here worthwhile of your participation. Clearly, there are some issues between customers & agencies that need to be addressed. Hopefully, with your help as well as JimC, Jaime, Papi & those who are lurking...we can increase the amount of success stories, with a greater understanding of each others positions..... All together now.....WE ARE THE WORLD!!!!! Title: Re: Here are the FACTS! Post by: Pete E on June 14, 2005, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to Here are the FACTS!, posted by Medellin Agency on Jun 13, 2005
Steve, I belive you and used the stripper as an example that can happen.I don't know is she was more than a stripper,but fighting this kind of reputation by association you probably did the right thing and bounced her.I actually felt a little bad rating on her,I didn't see her do anything for sure that would make her a hooker.And I have nothing against hookers,I met the best one of my life at Loutron,but agree they should not taint the agencies or the reputations of the girls at the agencies. I was and am impressed by your effort to have a great agency.
Title: Re: Here are the FACTS! Post by: buster40 on June 13, 2005, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to Here are the FACTS!, posted by Medellin Agency on Jun 13, 2005
Sorry for not getting back with you on your offer for dinner when I showed up with my new bride a couple weeks ago. I'll be in town the end of the month and would enjoy getting together with you and your girlfriend. Title: Re: Here are the FACTS! Post by: papi on June 13, 2005, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to Here are the FACTS!, posted by Medellin Agency on Jun 13, 2005
At one time I was a big supporter of Steve and CSH and did send some business his way but no longer a fan for other reasons. However, while pro's slip into agencies from time to time, he is not running a ho house – I have met many of the ladies at CSH as a former customer and would have a hard time believing there are 29 ho's in the house. However, I give Anthony credit for his posts and agree with Valuedcustomer that guys generally shy away from speaking out when they get poor treatment from agencies. Many guys on the board complain to me about agencies but rarely do they share the problems here for others Title: Thanks Post by: Medellin Agency on June 13, 2005, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to Re: Here are the FACTS!, posted by papi on Jun 13, 2005
papi, Thank you for the support and I wish you the best of luck in Panama. I'll send you an email. Best regards, Title: Re: Thanks Post by: papi on June 13, 2005, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to Thanks, posted by Medellin Agency on Jun 13, 2005
that would be nice (the email)..maybe an apology while you are at it Title: Re: Re: Thanks Post by: Medellin Agency on June 13, 2005, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to Re: Thanks, posted by papi on Jun 13, 2005
Steve, I do not see where an apology is due? But why don't we talk by email. Best regards, Title: Re: Re: Re: Thanks Post by: papi on June 13, 2005, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to Re: Re: Thanks, posted by Medellin Agency on Jun 13, 2005
i beg to differ (on the apology) but go ahead and shoot me an email if you care to do so. I was a big friend and supporter of CSH at one time. I tried to communicate with you before and several of my last emails went unanswered. Title: Sorry Post by: Medellin Agency on June 13, 2005, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to Re: Re: Re: Thanks, posted by papi on Jun 13, 2005
papi, If you are upset because I was not ready to do a joint venture with you, I apologize. If you run your Agency with integrity, you will suceed on your own. Best, Title: Re: Sorry Post by: papi on June 13, 2005, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to Sorry, posted by Medellin Agency on Jun 13, 2005
Steve, you know that is not the reason I am upset with you!! Give me a break Title: Re: Here are the FACTS! Post by: OkieMan on June 13, 2005, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to Here are the FACTS!, posted by Medellin Agency on Jun 13, 2005
Steve, Thank you for giving us your insight and an "inside" view of your business ethics. For men like me, who need to use agencies, it is a comfort to know that there are some honest and sincere agency owners. I am strongly considering going to Medellin on my next trip to Colombia. I am not exactly sure when that will be; but it seems that you and I think somewhat alike. I am also a former Air Force man. Honesty and integrity do mean a lot to me; as I am sure it does to most of the posters on this board. I want to know as much information as possible about any latina I would be interested in. That is especially true now that it appears my latest efforts with a latina in Cali have failed. So, I will be working on learning more spanish and exercising a lot more caution the next time around. Thanks again for your comments. OkieMan Title: Re: Re: Here are the FACTS! Post by: papi on June 13, 2005, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to Re: Here are the FACTS!, posted by OkieMan on Jun 13, 2005
Okie, per my post above, I am no longer a supporter of CSH. However, as a former customer - you could do a lot worse as the agency is not poorly run. That being said, you should consider an agency with a heavy concentration of women in their 30's or above - that is going to be difficult to find in most of Colombia and more likely to meet on a tour i.e. TLC or on my tour. But if you are hell bent on Medellin - I am sure there may be some age appropriate women for you there. Keep in mind that you can find a woman for you in their 20's but ask yourself is that going to last or is she going to ditch you when she gets to the States which does happens frequently. Title: Re: Re: Re: Here are the FACTS! Post by: OkieMan on June 13, 2005, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to Re: Re: Here are the FACTS!, posted by papi on Jun 13, 2005
Papi, Thanks for your concern. However, the women in Cali that I have spent the most time with were 35 and up. I am not as seasoned a traveller as you and many others, but for the most part, I would be only interested in women who are 30 and older. Since I have not been to Medellin yet, I can't say much about that city. I just appreciated Steve's comments about what his standards were. At this point, I am willing to take what he said at face value. Either way, I have several things that I must accompish before I make a trip to Colombia again. OkieMan Title: Re: Re: Re: Re: Here are the FACTS! Post by: papi on June 13, 2005, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to Re: Re: Re: Here are the FACTS!, posted by OkieMan on Jun 13, 2005
good luck in your search..this is not an easy project Title: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Here are the FACTS! Post by: papi on June 13, 2005, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to Re: Re: Re: Re: Here are the FACTS!, posted by papi on Jun 13, 2005
Okie, again, I can email your pic/profile to the ladies at no charge. This is a free service we now offer to anyone. Ladies interested in YOU will write you. This could save you a lot of time and aggravation in the long run. I dont make money doing this obviously - but hope by offering this service can gain the support of the guys. Panama is safer, cheap, and closer plus more importantly the women are far more sincere. Chasing skirt in Colombia may just lead you in the path of a lot more flakes and scammers. Like BeenThere - i speak form a lot of experience. I encourage you to give it a try if you really want to find happiness Title: Panama??? Post by: Pete E on June 14, 2005, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Here are the FACTS!, posted by papi on Jun 13, 2005
Papi, "Panama is safer, cheap, and closer plus more importantly the women are far more sincere." Maybe.If you could find a good looking one with any interest in you.Seems like comparing the desert to the oasis compared to Colombia.Your posts are amoung the few that EVER had anything good to say about the women in Panama. Pete Title: Re: Panama??? Post by: papi on June 14, 2005, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to Panama???, posted by Pete E on Jun 14, 2005
Pete, Colombia is not the only country in Latin America with attractive ladies. There are lots of attractive ladies in Panama!! And you will find less scammers and flakes holding real jobs Title: Re: Re: Panama??? Post by: Pete E on June 14, 2005, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to Re: Panama???, posted by papi on Jun 14, 2005
I'm not from Missouri,but my grandpa was.How about some evidence,like even one guy finding someone there? Remember your pick up scale?How would you rate Panama?Speaking of course of a woman a guy would want to pick up. We just hear nothing about it but strike outs. However,with your upcoming tour maybe we will get some imput.I guess you choose it for a reason. Pete Title: Re: Re: Re: Panama??? Post by: papi on June 14, 2005, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to Re: Re: Panama???, posted by Pete E on Jun 14, 2005
There are guys on the forums with novias from Panama. And yes I picked it for good reason. On the hardness scale (for guys over 40), I would put it somewhere between MDE and Miami. But I have a bunch of lovelies in my barn very gringo motivated and nice ladies too, not the scammers, babies and over-fished flakes found in other parts of LA Title: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Here are the FACTS! Post by: OkieMan on June 13, 2005, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Here are the FACTS!, posted by papi on Jun 13, 2005
Papi, Thank you for your kind offer. However, right now I am in no mood to get emails from any lady. It will take me a little while to get my prospective back. I am still very confused about my calena. It will just take me some time to get my bearings; but I will. OkieMan Title: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Here are the FACTS! Post by: papi on June 13, 2005, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Here are the FAC..., posted by OkieMan on Jun 13, 2005
jump back on the saddle ol boy. let me help. you wont regret it. and by not putting all your eggs in one basket -you can win at this game. But forget the hotties and go for wife material if that is what you really want Title: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Here are the FACTS! Post by: Mazu on June 14, 2005, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Here are the..., posted by papi on Jun 13, 2005
Papi, Could you shoot me an email. matt@mazu.com Thanks. Matt Title: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Here are the FACTS! Post by: papi on June 14, 2005, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Here are..., posted by Mazu on Jun 14, 2005
sure Mazu..and my email is info@tropic-romance.com. my url is www.tropic-romance.com Title: Lets Keep it Clean Post by: Medellin Agency on June 13, 2005, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Here are the FACTS!, posted by papi on Jun 13, 2005
papi, If you want to promote your agency, great, but please don't give Okieman a lot of BS: "Chasing skirt in Colombia may just lead you in the path of a lot more flakes and scammers. Like BeenThere - i speak form a lot of experience." I have to call this publicity BS. Best regards, Title: Re: Lets Keep it Clean Post by: papi on June 13, 2005, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to Lets Keep it Clean, posted by Medellin Agency on Jun 13, 2005
Not in my view. I like you have traveled throughout Latin America and speak from experience – Latin America, especially Colombia has its share of challenges when it comes to finding a good mate Title: Women in 30's Post by: Medellin Agency on June 13, 2005, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to Re: Re: Here are the FACTS!, posted by papi on Jun 13, 2005
papi, I do not agree with your comment of “unlikely success” with women in their 20's. Colombian Women traditionally marry even older Colombian men. It is part of their culture and I see it everyday in Medellin. It is all about chemistry. Best regards, Title: Re: Women in 30's Post by: papi on June 13, 2005, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to Women in 30's, posted by Medellin Agency on Jun 13, 2005
good..then i have hope when i get to Okie's age which is not too far off. Title: Re: Re: Here are the FACTS! Post by: Heat on June 13, 2005, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to Re: Here are the FACTS!, posted by OkieMan on Jun 13, 2005
Okieman, You can not make a better choice than Steve and his agency. Title: Hey don't forget me........ Post by: Heat on June 13, 2005, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to Here are the FACTS!, posted by Medellin Agency on Jun 13, 2005
Just kidding but I did stand up for you. Why? because I know you, your background. And it's the right thing to do. And I know are trustworthy. You speak excellent Spanish and you are a straight shooter. BTW, I have never used your agency and already have a girl so I won't be needing your services. But if I ever do need an agency You are the one I would trust. Not to mention Steve is a true American patriot. There..... the record is stright. Title: Re: Hey don't forget me........ Post by: Jake on June 14, 2005, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to Hey don't forget me........, posted by Heat on Jun 13, 2005
Heat ..the okieman needs to lick his wounds ......... I wish I could have all this knowledge about 10 years ago when i was going to cali 6-7 times a year . If guys can't learn anything from all the of the veterns who post than it is there own fault ... Are you stateside yet ? Title: Re: Re: Hey don't forget me........ Post by: Heat on June 14, 2005, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to Re: Hey don't forget me........, posted by Jake on Jun 14, 2005
Yea, You got that right brother. I learned the hard way and some vets showed me the ropes years ago. It's a learning curve for sure. I'm back and having a great time with my kids. Shoot me an email. Title: Re: Hey don't forget me........ Post by: Medellin Agency on June 13, 2005, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to Hey don't forget me........, posted by Heat on Jun 13, 2005
HEAT, Sorry, that's serveral beers on me! Please collect next time you are in Medellin and Best of Luck with the novia. Best, |