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is there any information available on what percentage of marriages to colombian women work out over the long term? Say a marriage of 5 years or more.

... in response to long term success rates, posted by jimmyjohn on Mar 27, 2005

Our office recently spent some of our time (and believe me we are busy),
to put together some numbers in this regard.

Our study is obviously NOT perfect and the database used is NOT exhaustive,
but at least it might be a starting point for further research and study by others.

To my knowledge, there is not a lot of good research out there on this topic,
so we looked into it based on an internal office study of (some but not all)
visa cases here since 2000.

Here are the rough and tentative findings and database.

http://www.usaimmigrationattorney.com/MarriageLongevityRates.html

The bottom line is that most Latina-American marriages continue,
longevity rates appear to be encouraging and the 90 day fiancee
visa courtship period seems to help many couples make better
marriage decisions.

Good luck to all.

... in response to long term success rates, posted by jimmyjohn on Mar 27, 2005

I pretty much agree with what Jamie said.  It'll be difficult at best to get any meaningful statistics.  I think you can maximize your chances of success by looking for a good women versus a hot piece of ass and getting to know her well before marriage.

A lot of guys are so focused on looks and sex-appeal that they overlook everything else.  If a man is 50 years old and marries a 25 year-old, IMHO his chances of a lasting marriage are not great.

Forget the bullshit you read at most agency web sites.  The Latin women don't "mature faster" and although marriages between older men and younger women are more common in Latin America than the US, the standard of living is much lower and security is a bigger factor there.

... in response to Re: long term success rates, posted by Patrick on Mar 28, 2005

Patrick,

I think that your comments are right on target.  We all know that it is very common for men to desire and fantasize about young, sexy women. Let's face it; it is a big turn on!  It would seem that with the almost endless supply of these ladies, it makes for a lot of "skirt chasing".  Many of us are not as young as we once were, myself included. If a young, sexy, available latina wants to let us live out our fantasies,(mostly sexual), and in the process, spend money on her; I am sure there will always be women available for that.  But, when it comes the
reality of getting married, and sharing a life; all of a sudden "Fantasy Island" goes away!  I am certainly not the best so-called expert concerning LA and latinas.  Many of you know more than I do about these type issues. But,  I guess the truth is, that I just want a "real" latin lady who will share my life; as ordinary and mundane as that might be.  I am currently trying to go to Cali and meet a lady that I have been corresponding with.  She and I have been talking via emails for several weeks. I am 51, and she is 35. She seems to be very level headed and mature, and certainly sincere. And yes, she is beautiful; at least to me!  So, I will hopefully find out soon, one way or the other.  Take care.

                                OkieMan

... in response to Re: Re: long term success rates, posted by OkieMan on Mar 28, 2005

Okieman, just because a woman is past the age of 30 doesn't mean she can't be sexy. You kept saying "young, sexy" as though it's not possible to be sexy without being young. Even in her forties, my wife still makes heads turn and she is as sexy as they come.

... in response to Re: Re: Re: long term success rates, posted by utopiacowboy on Mar 29, 2005

Utopiacowboy,
I am sorry that you misunderstood what I was saying.  I totally agree with you.  The lady I am interested in at the moment is 35, going on 36.  If her pictures are any indication, she is gorgeous. I will find out for myself soon.  What I was trying to convey in my earlier email was concerning the school of thought that many guys are trying to go after the really young "hotties", and don't give any consideration to other qualities the ladies might have.  As attractive as the 20 something girls are, I prefer the more mature ones myself.

                           OkieMan

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Re: long term success rates, posted by OkieMan on Mar 29, 2005

I guess what I am saying is this. I don't think my wife makes up with other qualities what she lacks in "hotness". I have always thought that notwithstanding her age, she was the hottest chick I had ever seen. Hell, she has always passed as a woman 10 to 15 years younger than she actually is. It just may be that your novia is just as "hot" as any twenty-something.

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: long term success ra..., posted by utopiacowboy on Mar 29, 2005

Utopiacowboy,
Again, I agree with you. It all comes down to the individual lady.  Naturally, it really helps your wife to know that you think so highly of her.  I admire that.

                                OkieMan

... in response to Re: Re: Re: long term success rates, posted by utopiacowboy on Mar 29, 2005

That's a good point.  My wife will be turning 35 again soon (for the eighth time). She's still straining men's necks.

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Re: long term success rates, posted by Patrick on Mar 29, 2005

I know where you're coming from. I have no doubt that you are absolutely correct about her ability to turn men's heads.

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Re: long term success rates, posted by Patrick on Mar 29, 2005

Patrick,

Read my last email to Utopiacowboy. He misunderstood what I was trying to say as well.  I am sure that your wife is a very attractive lady too.  Best of luck.

                           OkieMan

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Re: long term success rates, posted by Patrick on Mar 29, 2005

Patrick

Maybe, you need to buy the men some blinders.  You could keep a suppy of Ben Gay on hand for when then strain their neck muscles.  Have a great day

Beattledog

... in response to Re: Re: long term success rates, posted by OkieMan on Mar 28, 2005

Remember Okieman, at your age and the intelligence that should go with it, you have 20 women in Cali that would hook up with you in a minute for all the wrong reasons--so take your time.
ws

... in response to Re: Re: Re: long term success rates, posted by WS244 on Mar 28, 2005

Right, so I'll take the right one, and you can have the other 19! ha  No, believe me.  I am doing everything I can to be careful.  Besides, I think that it usually works out that if I am doing what I should be doing, I will have a much better chance to reach my goal.  Just like Patrick said.  It is not too likely that a 25 year old (or younger) is going to make me a good wife.  Now, she might make someone else a great wife; but I am more likely to have success with the 35 year that I'm chasing.  Now, if I could only get Mr. Spock to teach me that Vulcan mind melding trick! ha

                             OkieMan

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Re: long term success rates, posted by OkieMan on Mar 28, 2005


in this quest of finding & being found by love. Don't believe any hype that the women will be throwing themselves at you. Keep in mind, you are being "checked-out" also. Take your time, there's no rush...

Hoda

... in response to Okie, remember....It's a two-way street...., posted by Hoda on Mar 28, 2005

Hoda,

That is all very true.  It is a two-way street.  I never meant to give the impression that I did not believe that.  I am under no illusions about being "God's gift to women".
Thanks for your comments.

                                OkieMan

... in response to Okie, remember....It's a two-way street...., posted by Hoda on Mar 28, 2005

"Don't believe any hype that the women will be throwing themselves at you."

Howard, You mean the beautiful women don't really out-number the men 10 to 1 down there?

All they want is a loyal husband who will come home at the end of the day instead of stay out all night drinking.  Someone who can hold down a job and not beat them.  Someone who's as loyal to the marriage as they are.

Latin women mature much faster due to the harsh living conditions.  Marriages with age differences of 20, 30, and even 40 years are common.  Latin women prefer the wisdom and security they find with older men.  Their only desire in life is to make a good wife to a loving kind man.  It's easier to teach a Latina to speak English than it is to teach an American woman to be a good wife...

I may have missed some of the standard hype, but I think that's most of it.  Anybody got any additional "hype-isms" they can add?

What really cracks me up is when some client of an agency responds to support some of this bullshit.  I think it's because they so badly want it all to be true.  I think a man is more likely to find a more traditional old-fashioned sexy wife in Latin America, but it's certainly not guaranteed, and I also think that particularly the younger generations there are becoming more Americanized as time goes on with our export of television and movies.  

-Liberalism is a mental disease

... in response to But traffic laws are often ignored there..., posted by Patrick on Mar 29, 2005

Patrick,

Once again, I agree with you. I especially liked your comment on liberalism! ha  I am not as experienced as some of you guys about LA and latinas.  But, I am 51, so I have lived a few days.  I picked up on the agency hype from the beginning.  It is all just BS, and the agencies are trying to get some poor lonely slob to leave the good old USA and as the old Willie Nelson song said, "spend my money, calling everybody honey, and I wind up singing the blues".  So, don't worry about me, but I do appreciate the thoughtfulness. But, on the other hand, all this just might help another guy who is about to lay down his "cold, hard cash", only to find out that he can't really have a solid relationship with a 21 year old with "fake titties". ha ha

                                 OkieMan

... in response to But traffic laws are often ignored there..., posted by Patrick on Mar 29, 2005

I should revise my slogan:

They don’t care how bad you smell, how loud you burp, or where they have to sleep they just want someone to love.

Engage the Exotic – Latin Women
http://International-Introductions.com

... in response to Does this mean , posted by Jamie on Mar 29, 2005

Jamie,

That is exactly right! The grosser the better. ha Tell them that.  Of course, I don't know how many guys that you see in BAQ who actually look like "wort hogs" and smell like them too?  Maybe you can enlighten us?  Good grooming and good manners are always in style.  Since most of us are a little older, I don't know if you have dealt with guys with multiple body piercings, tattoos and wierd hairdos?  Maybe it is more prevelant than I had thought. Changing the subject a little, but I keep getting emails from Sam at I Love Latins.  How do you compare to him?  He tries to show me "special pictures" of 22 year old girls with big tits, but the girls I saw in his video and on his regular website are 4 kinds of ugly!  I am not trying to bad mouth this guy, but it does make me curious.  Right now, I am working on a deal with a calena; so I have not been to BAQ.  But, I seem to get conflicting info from Sam.  Plus, recently it seems that he now has a "new" fiance.  The lady he used to call his wife(Sandra), has "disappeared".  I guess their marriage didn't last.  So, much for the "dream".
                                OkieMan

... in response to Re: Does this mean , posted by OkieMan on Mar 29, 2005

“I don't know how many guys that you see in BAQ who actually look like "wort hogs" and smell like them too? Maybe you can enlighten us?”

Of course this slogan is only a joke stretching the agency hype that that Patrick mentioned which typically is that the girls don’t care how you look or how much you earn.

“Since most of us are a little older, I don't know if you have dealt with guys with multiple body piercings, tattoos and wierd hairdos?”

I don’t run into this.

“I keep getting emails from Sam at I Love Latins. How do you compare to him?”
I leave the comparison to others.

“Plus, recently it seems that he now has a "new" fiance. The lady he used to call his wife(Sandra), has "disappeared". I guess their marriage didn't last. So, much for the "dream".”

No one know really knows the workings of a marriage accept the husband and the wife. It is not appropriate to speculate why such things happen and a man’s private affairs is just that. If such matters impact the customer then that would be another story. It could have been a “dream” and maybe he is moving on to another “dream.”

Engage the Exotic - Latin Women
http://International-Introductions.com

... in response to Re: Re: Does this mean , posted by Jamie on Mar 30, 2005

Jamie,

I agree with what you said.  I was just joking and teasing because of what you said. However, you do have a different prospective since you own an agency.  At this point, I could care less about the "other guys"; but I was just teasing about the "wort hogs", etc.  You know much better than I, what your clientele is like.  Also, I was just commenting on the I Love Latins site, and Sam.  I have talked to the guy just once by phone, and I have received many emails, and mailers,etc.  Frankly, I am somewhat sceptical about his agency, but that is just my gut reaction.  I have never used his services.  Best of luck with your agency.

                            OkieMan

... in response to Does this mean , posted by Jamie on Mar 29, 2005

Don't forget to add that they don't mind it when men fart and accidently shit their pants- As long as they're wearing adult diapers.

... in response to Re: Does this mean , posted by Patrick on Mar 29, 2005

Patrick,
 
I am laughing my butt off!!

                              OkieMan

... in response to But traffic laws are often ignored there..., posted by Patrick on Mar 29, 2005


to teach an American woman to be a good wife....

OH DAYYUM!!!! LMAO!!!

... in response to But traffic laws are often ignored there..., posted by Patrick on Mar 29, 2005

...on the part about the mental disease (LOL)

... in response to long term success rates, posted by jimmyjohn on Mar 27, 2005

I would think only the immigration office would have access to such data and that is not to say that its been tabulated. Such a number would be a useless gauge. Too many other factors come into play for determining the success of a marriage (using your criteria of 5 years or more), for example how long the couple knew each other prior to marriage, age difference, ages of the couple, how they met, where they live (USA or Colombia) etc....

Engage the Exotic – Latin Women
http://International-Introductions.com

... in response to long term success rates, posted by jimmyjohn on Mar 27, 2005

I am only at a year and a half but it's looking good. My wife and I have been on a continual honeymoon ever since we met and we may just continue this way forever.

... in response to Re: long term success rates, posted by utopiacowboy on Mar 27, 2005

bravo cowboy, we both found the woman of our dreams through amigos.com so i am especially happy and inspired by the both of you, continued success!!
JK

... in response to Re: Re: long term success rates, posted by jediknight on Mar 27, 2005

Thanks, JK. I highly recommend amigos but it doesn't look like very many gringoes use it.

... in response to long term success rates, posted by jimmyjohn on Mar 27, 2005

I can not speak for everyone but August will be 4 years for me. I also took 2 friends to my wedding and they were shortly married to colombia women and are still very happy. I don,t know the whole story of Pete's marriage but he is a good guy. But 3 out of 4 is a lot better than the odds in US. Good Luck to all you guys looking
Davey