Mail-Order Misery

[Neil]

... in response to Dude, your apparent "logic" is..., posted by Looking4Wife on Feb 2, 2005

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Please read the Bible and don't just see the movie, the Passion of Christ.  There is a lot more, Looking4wife.  Jesus displayed wrath when he turned over the tables of the money changers and drove them out of the temple WITH WHIPS!!   Since he was perfect there must be an appropriate time, place and manner for displaying this kick ass and take names righteous indignation.  

Nonetheless I am aware of only 2 times, places or manners that would justify striking a women, even adultery is not enough.  Other than self-defense or defense of one's country, as I said before.  Can you read the earlier post please?  Jesus said to the whore about to be stoned, he who is without sin, throw the first stone.  No one did.  Then Jesus said he did not condemn her either and she should go her way and whore no more.

I hope I explained the mindset that goes on when abuse occurs.  I have my doctorate degree and another degree in Psychology.   I do not advocate abuse.  I think you have that wrong.  Don't try to falsely label me, dude.  I am much too smart to allow your word games like "this philosophy".  If you like philosophy go read Plato who said the world is round.  I have years of actual first-hand experience counseling the abuse victims and the batterers, where the rubber meets the road.

Slavery has long been outlawed by the 15th amendment to the Constitution in the United States of Confusion, since the 1880s.  You can get in DEEP trouble, man, if you try to make a slave out of a man or a woman.  They do not like picking cotton, for starters.  Also the fields are very hot in the summer.  You will definitely face a lawsuit by some money-grubbing lawyer who will take you to the cleaners, big-time.

Punching bags are leather bags for boxers who practice boxing.  Women are much more beautiful and are different in many ways-- perhaps you are confused by the two.  When you are "looking4wife" make sure she is a woman and not a leather bag.  This is a matter of fact and not a matter of law or interpretation to most people.

We don't need MORE government control and legislation when we have a constititional amendment already in place.  And President Bush wants to bring FREEDOM to our world.  That is now the reason why we had the war in Iraq.  To bring our brand of freedom and democratic reforms and overthrow an independent sovereign nation ruled by a man the Bush family did not like, who did not have Weapons of Mass Destruction.

Maybe you just like to throw around excitatory words and get people riled up and brand other people "advocates of abuse".

[kented]

... in response to Dude, your apparent SCARE is illogical!, posted by Neil on Feb 2, 2005

Like is your wife in an enemy combattent???

[Michael B]

... in response to Dude, your apparent "logic" is..., posted by Looking4Wife on Feb 2, 2005

I think you and I are on the same page. (see my 'is anybody in' post above). I find that there is NO acceptable reason to hit a woman (particularly your wife/girlfriend) except self defense....and by that I mean SERIOUS 'she's gone crazy and has a pistol pointed at me' kind of stuff....and even then it is better (for you, for her, for the children, for EVERYBODY) if you do the minimum necessary to defend yourself and then LEAVE. I'm 100% with you on (quote)-- By being MAN ENOUGH to either exit the situation, exit the relationship, or deal with the real issue.

[Looking4Wife]

... in response to Re: Dude, your apparent "logic"..., posted by Michael B on Feb 2, 2005

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[Hoda]

... in response to Now you are closer to getting it right., posted by Neil on Feb 1, 2005


I have been blessed with a wonderful wife :-)

[Hoda]

... in response to Now you are closer to getting it right., posted by Neil on Feb 1, 2005

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For a woman, on the receiving end....

Your wife is not obligated to "forgive and/or understand" if she's picking up her teeth, off the floor! I respect the time & effort you've put into your studies & your conviction to your faith. But neither qualifies as an "absolute" guarantee to abundant life. They can help, but they can't guarantee...

Take care...

[Heat]

... in response to Ditto.....Just walk away!, posted by Hoda on Feb 1, 2005

Right on the money Hoda.

[Neil]

... in response to Yep you are right............., posted by Heat on Feb 1, 2005

[This message has been edited by Neil]

Thank you all for this spirited discussion and attempts to mistate and misconsrue the vital facts which I have set forth.  I must end these shinanigans and get back to my real calling of duty, which is my work.

Please remember:

Don't hit a woman unless in self-defense or defense of country.

Read the Bible for instruction.

Don't be a bad boy and play word games.

[Patrick]

... in response to Mail-Order Misery, posted by Gary Bala on Jan 31, 2005

I'm generally in favor of providing more protection for the women.   Unfortunately, this legislation is going to more effective in attacking US owned agencies than it will be in protecting the ladies.  Placing this burden on the agency will only result in the foreign owned and operated agencies out-competing the US owned operations.  As US owned agencies close down, more foreign owned ones will take their places.  The US government will have no control over them and the women will not be informed of their rights and no background checks will be made.

You're right that it should be made a part of the immigration process.  That way it would serve the stated purpose of helping the women.  I get the impression that the people driving this are more interested in attacking the agencies than they are in protecting the women.

[zack]

... in response to Mail-Order Misery, posted by Gary Bala on Jan 31, 2005

Sounds to me like just another way for the feminists to attack the foreign bride concept. They know it is working and it is pissing them off. If a foreign bride marriage should require a background check, why shouldn't a marriage to an American woman require a background check also? To me the latter is more dangerous.

Zack

[kented]

... in response to Re: Mail-Order Misery, posted by zack on Jan 31, 2005

It's just stupidity, not femanism.  Let's blame the tusami on femanists too.

The process is about as complicated as it can get and I see no benefit in making it more complicated.  Women perhaps risk being beaten and virtually imprisoned and men run the risk of being used to get a visa.  

I don't see any way to avoid this.  There are more thigns that can go wrong than can go right on both sides and that's why you need to get to know your partner.

[zack]

... in response to Re: Re: Mail-Order Misery, posted by kented on Jan 31, 2005

Remember Kented that the lawyers who started that case were feminist lawyers. That is a fact, not an opinion. I think that both feminism and stupidity are both at work here.

[Jeff S]

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Mail-Order Misery, posted by zack on Jan 31, 2005

Sounds kind of redundant to me.