HGH vs. Testosterone

[Thunderstruck]

I read "Testosterone vs. HGH" article in a bodybuilding magazine by an M.D. who prescribed it both as an anti-aging and bodybuilding aid. His Conclusions:
  HGH does not help build muscle but decreases bodyfat, and has worse side effects at high dosage than testosterone.
  Testosterone helps build muscle and reduces fat with fewer side effects at high dosages - and much cheaper.

Wish I could take testosterone since I'm thin with high bodyfat %, but I get deathly sick from using the creams, I can't understand why. I have no side effects from Lily Humatrope and it increases my testosterone slightly, helps me recover from heavy activity and stops joint inflammation - but I never get stronger from it.

What form of testosterone is available in Colombia over the counter?

[Pete E]

... in response to HGH vs. Testosterone, posted by Thunderstruck on Jan 23, 2005

HGH has side effects only at very high dosasges and they are not huge.You can get swelling of the hands and even a carpel tunnel like effect.But you would have to take about 40 IU a week to get to these effects I hear,even at todays lower prices $400 a week.I take 10 IU a week,no side effects except it grows hair all over your body,new dark hair.
At that dose I think there is a muscle building effect but its less than testosterone.
The main reason I am taking HGH again is because I have
Either Chrons disease or ulcerative colitis.HGH work very well in an English study in controlling the effectsat least.2 years ago 3 doctorswanted to cut out my colon.Another docter gave me prednisone which helped greatly but does have big side effects.I am off of that and still OK,the HGH I think is the reason.
Over the counter you can buy Depo Testosterone at 250 mg strength and Deca Durobolin and Winstrol,but only at 50 mg strength.Both injectable,the 50 mg strength would require 5 cc's for the effect of one cc of the 250 mg strength.
And any needles you want.People don't get AIDS from bad needles here like in the US,you can buy them cheap.The dumbest f--king thing the US government ever came up with,we will control needles so you don't take hard drugs.
I think dirty syringes is the no one cause of AIDS in the US now.

Pete

[Thunderstruck]

... in response to Re: HGH vs. Testosterone, posted by Pete E on Jan 23, 2005

Right, the study I referred to was more than 5 IU/day. I use less than 0.5 unit/day with no negative effects (except expense), but huge positive effects.

[Zorrowins]

... in response to Re: HGH vs. Testosterone, posted by Pete E on Jan 23, 2005

Chron's Disease is an autoimune disease where your body(antibodies, etc.) is attacking itself as if your intestine where an invader or foreign object. So in Italy they give people with Chron's disease a live intestinal parasite that can be defeated by your immune system. Instantly your immune system shifts its attention to the parasite and these people a symptom free until the parasite is destroyed. They they "drink-Koolaid type drink) another parasite. Sort of like the US Army guarding the border from Mexico and the US is invaded by the Russians!  :-)

[Pete E]

... in response to I saw an interesting show on Chron's Dis..., posted by Zorrowins on Jan 23, 2005

They are doing clinical studies in the US on the same thing and the results look very good so far.I have been checking on the web and its  not available to the public as far as I can tell.There is a company out of Denmark that makes the parasites but they don't respond to my mails.The US study uses a swine worm,made by the Denmarek Company,it dies in a few weeks then you drink some more eggs.
And 3 doctors wanted to cut out my colon.They consider it a successfull treatment.No thanks,I don't need a solution worse than the problem.
My US MD hadn't heard of the HGH chrons study.After much discussion he admitted he didn't even care if it worked,it was not standard treatment so he didn't want anything to do with it.The lawyers have really screwed up doctors willingness to try anything new.

Pete

[Zorrowins]

... in response to Re: I saw an interesting show on Chron's..., posted by Pete E on Jan 23, 2005

When I was dating my ex-girl friend who is a real Witch with a capital B-Her exhusband that she was married to had Chron's Disease and nearly died several times. He also had his intestine's removed to live. Then after our relationship ended badly I read an article that stated Chron's Disease was generally much worse in patients in unhappy marriages than happy ones. So question-During your unhappy marriage where your Chron's disease symptoms much worse than now?

[Pete E]

... in response to One More Question Pete Regarding Chron's..., posted by Zorrowins on Jan 24, 2005

Yes,they were.The came on during the marriage.I had it before but it was no problem.The prednisone I stsarted taking in June 2003seemed to really knock it,but after I quit the prednisone in January 2004 it did not come back at all like before,just some minor problems.
Actually just the financial battle to stay afloat seemed more stressfull than the marriage,but I diotched both problems at the same time so who knows.
Most chrons patientsare 14/30 yearsold.It comeson alot in the early teens.Then there is a second group starting at about 45.I got it around 53.I hated my job at the time,which I was able to retire from at 55.
Who knows.Life  not very stressfull now.Biggest problem is trying to keep the girlfriends schedule strait.

Pete