Cali report 3

[jey]

Sunday morning found me at LE for my first meeting at 10. F was  a no show. So  I took a taxi to AC for an 11 am with sexy G, who was very interested in me, interesting G asked me if I necessarily wanted to live in the USA because she would prefer to stay in Colombia. I can say that in general if the ladies were really interested in me, they left no doubt about it. They all asked about the other "citas" I had, if I liked anyone else, told me they hoped I would not meet anyone else I liked, etc. Also interestingly, asked me if I had any problem with black people. This girl was not black but she had some black in her, which does not matter to me.
H was a little older, darn it also another one much shorter than her profile, she had a nice bod too. We went to Chipichape to eat at Lenos & Carbon. Now this is funny. We get there, and she wants to sit upstairs. We go up and take our seat. L&C has no menus, just a marquee above the counter like any fast food joint. H asks me to go  downstairs, write down all the menu, and then come up so she can read the menu and she can make her selection. Okay, whatever, so I go downstairs and take a picture of the menu with a digital camera, am told picture taking is prohibited, and so they send a waiter up to us.
Met J ("I" intentionally omitted due to confusion with the pronoun) at 330 at AC. She was smart, very interested--but not attractive to me.
K at AC did not show, rescheduled to Tuesday
Went to Chipichape, bought myself a cell phone, walked around. Lots of good looking ladies but all either with boyfriends or their mothers.

Another interesting thing happened, I met another American who was about to have  his second date with a young girl from a small town. He's a good, normal guy. Unlike yours truly who is elitist, conceited about his good looks, rich mover and shaker.
So later on while at the mall waiting for my cell phone to get set up, I run into them eating. The girl was a knockout. The guys looks at me like I am going to steal her from him. I mumble hi, nice to meet you and go my way. I turn around and can see the girl also turned around staring at me.
I hear talk on this list about a girl leaving the guy for "a better deal" after she arrives in the USA. I have seen this happen. in fact I have been "the other guy" several times. But in every case its because the guy lied about who he was, he was an insecure jerk, he had other girlfriends, etc.
On Monday I got a call at 1015 from LE. They had made appointments for me beginning at 1030 without telling me. By the way LE staff did not work on Sunday while Riccardo was there all day.  
still at LE, met L who was really nice. I liked her a lot and she also was very interested. I am sure we will meet again.
M called LE to say she had to delay 90 minutes, so I went to  AC for my schedule. I came back to LE at 2 pm and this gorgeous woman was sitting on the couch. It was M. M obviously liked me too, she said I had the ideal look in every respect for the man of her dreams. We agreed to spend the day together on Tuesday.
Back to AC for N, who came from another town 2 hours away. Her friend also came with her, who is also very attractive but not my type. N really liked me, asked me to come meet her family.And she was very sexy too, but at this point my mind was still full of M
Back to LE for O, who was a no show,and to AC for P, also a no show. Riccardo said "remove her from the agency" to his right hand lady.
After he left the staff told me P has not long ago met an american who was very forward physically in the first meeting, and it scared her. So probably she thought all americans were that way.
Back to LE to see rescheduled F, beautiful woman, intelligent, wow. Then Q who is extremely intelligent, very nice looking but not very latina looking, but personality not my type.
to be continued

[chizz]

... in response to Cali report 3, posted by jey on Dec 1, 2003

I assume you were just kidding when you called yourself an elitist,conceited with his good looks and a rich mover and shaker. It would be pretty ignorant to put down someone "normal" and elevate yourself to such a high level. Sounds like you're looking for a very beautiful, and very sexy woman. That's cool, but I don't need any model types or the sort, just give me a nice woman who's respectful, and i'm happy. If I wanted a Beautiful woman, i can get that here, but the difference is Attitude. Good luck in your search.
Bryan

[Craig]

... in response to Cali report 3, posted by jey on Dec 1, 2003

[This message has been edited by Craig]

"Another interesting thing happened, I met another American who was about to have his second date with a young girl from a small town. He's a good, normal guy. Unlike yours truly who is elitist, conceited about his good looks, rich mover and shaker."

No offense but I think you left out pretentious a-hole

[jim c]

... in response to Re: Cali report 3, posted by Craig on Dec 2, 2003

don't bite the hook

[Miguel]

... in response to Re: Cali report 3, posted by Craig on Dec 2, 2003

Respectfully, maybe it's best not to criticize jey's self confidence.  Although he may come across as pretentious, this is one of the more entertaining trip reports in a while, and hopefully he'll stick around and contribute more in the future.

[Craig]

... in response to Re: Re: Cali report 3, posted by Miguel on Dec 2, 2003

I agree that his trip report was interesting, but what you see as self confidence, I view as arrogrance. Reguardless, what I write should not stop anyone from contributing or commenting.

[jim c]

... in response to Cali report 3, posted by jey on Dec 1, 2003

Gee I haven't been in Cali for a year has Lenos & Carbon expanded to a second floor at Chipi Chapi and how much did it cost to activate your new cell phone in your name. Should I bring a used one or buy one there. Is it expensive and what kind did you buy? Do you need any Id ?  jim

[jey]

... in response to Re: Cali report 3, posted by jim c on Dec 2, 2003

it was 242,000 pesos including 100 free minutes
it is a GSM phone and possibly if you have one already you need only buy a SIM card
I got a low end (Black and White screen) phone, the monthly special
no id needed

[Calipro]

... in response to Re: Cali report 3, posted by jim c on Dec 2, 2003

[This message has been edited by Calipro]

Lenos & Carbon has expanded to a second floor. I think it's supposed to be air conditioned but it seems like the heat just shoots up the stairwell.

[Cali vet]

... in response to Cali report 3, posted by jey on Dec 1, 2003

What stands out in all of your posts is the constant refrain "...liked me" etc. Why do you want to tell the board that woman liked you? Are you insecure or something? More important did you like any of them? Anyway nice report on your experiences at the agencies.

[Pete E]

... in response to alfabet soup, posted by Cali vet on Dec 2, 2003

Its nice to think the women like you.I had that impression with all but one I met ,but I never tried to follow up with most of them so maybe I was kidding myself.
But when a girl says she would like to come over and see you at your hotel you could sure get that impression.
But don't get to proud Jey,most of these girls will like you.
I remember a scene from "Arthur" Dudley Moore has picked up this hooker on the street,takes  her to an elegant restaurant and is asking her what she does,apparently he forgot.She says "I'm a hooker" He says " I thought we were getting along exceptionally well."
Well,not to compare Cali women with hookers,but they are not known to be real picky.
Its the market!! Its on your side for a change vs what we experience here.Here any halfway good looking girl is picky as hell.Most of these picky broads would get no attention at all in Cali.I like to put them in that scene for their education.But I can't,so better to just put myself in that scene.
And there's another little person I would like to put
back in that scene to adjust her attitude.I don't know who all these guys are that keep calling but I don't want to know,I just want to be gone.5 days to go.Then off to where guys get respect. Good husbands that will treat them  well and give them a good life are really in short supply and sought after.If I would  do a newpaper add in Cali offering  everything I  gave to my wife and her  son I think I would be inundated with takers.But some people have a short memory.But markets change,so work them to your favor.
Its better to change than complain.Its just been slow working everything out to leave.I don't think I will be thinking about her next week in Cali.
I hope to post some more interesting reports.I beat this story to death.

Pete

[Pete E]

... in response to Well - - , posted by Pete E on Dec 2, 2003

My wife just came home.I told her some guy called.She called someone back and was having a hell of a good time talking to them,laughing away.So I picked up the phone,yup,it was a guy.Thats what I get for what I have done for her.
I don't know what the story is,even if its innocent thats no way to treat someone who has given you everything and totaly changed your life for the better. It makes me feel like sh-t.
Be carefull guys.It can really be a heartache when you pick the wrong girl.And it doesn't seem to matter how much you might have given her,or changed her life,or her sons life,or her family's life.She won't give a damn about that at all.All that does is piss you off more for how you are being treated.
At least be tough about it.If you f--k up just send her butt back right away.Have no mercy.She won't.I wished I had done that about 40 months ago.It seemed like it might have been easier then.But I didn't.Some poor little girl might get judged a little quickly next time.And NEVER ignore your gut feeling.Don't let anyone talk you out of it.And have some pride.Its the sh--ts when you don't.Its the worst thing you can do to yourself.
Sorry.I thought I was over this.If I continue like this after I hit Cali you can really kick my butt for it.
Its hell living in a half assed situation.
I know this is probably getting old.It just helps to express other than suffer through by myself.

Pete

[cassius]

... in response to Got to get out of this f- -king situatio..., posted by Pete E on Dec 2, 2003

pete:

obviously, she has given the # to many guys just to get back at you.

she knows that you will hear the conversation and laughter and that it will hurt you.

perhaps she is doing a good job managing her anger and resentment whilst acting indifferent and care free about the divorce.

what a real nice girl - allowing other men into your house before you have moved abroad to try to repair your life. she's got an A1 game, dude!

[Zorrowins]

... in response to Got to get out of this f- -king situatio..., posted by Pete E on Dec 2, 2003

Pete,
I still think your wife suffers from a Narcissitic Personality Disorder. I've copied a previous message below and will refer you to a couple of websites regarding Narcissism. It's honestly a very sad condition that virtually destroys all her loved ones and eventually herself. Unfortunately there is next to no hope for any change. However, honestly I don't know. The reason I left this post was because you think she has the ability to love, as she appears to love her son so much. With a Narcissist, things are rarely as they appear.

Posted by Zorrowins on 11/20/2003

As You Know I dated, was in love with and was verbally engaged to a Narcissit(which I didn't realize at the time). So when everything blew up in my face I spent monthes educating myself. So for a paradox regarding Narcissitic Women. They usually invest an enormous amount of time and attention on their children. They are very sacrifical in the effort expended on the younger children. Here's the rub-Things are not as they appear. They consider their "loved" ones an extension of themselves. They have a very poorly developed sense of where they end and the other begins. The "loved" ones are an extension of themselves. Didn't you ever wonder why she's such a control freak? Why? To an N it is just like her right arm. If you commanded your right arm to reach for the door knob and it didn't respond--Wouldn't you go nuts? Thats what a N does when a "love" one doesn't respond in the way the N wishes. They go nuts! To them you are an extension of themselves if you're their "loved" one. So when their kid does some great thing-The N did it. When they invest time and effort with their kid, they are loving themselves. They can't really love anybody, as they do not have empathy. It only appears to be love. Nuts-You bet! READ the book-Loving The Self Absorbed by Nina Brown.
Just my thoughts!

[jim c]

... in response to Re: Got to get out of this f- -king situ..., posted by Zorrowins on Dec 3, 2003

Gee Zorro

  What is it with you and narcissitic behavior? Can't you find some new diseases like compulsive behavior or bi polar disorders. If she dosn't love you she is NPD, if she does some of the time she is bi polar. If she marries someone else after meeting you she is schitzophrenic and if she marries you she is compulsive. Go read some other self help books. The NPD thing is making me think you are obsessive compulsive and boreing. jimc
PS I have never seen a bi Polar. It's too hot in key West