just want to get some feedback

[chizz]

Hello fellow gringos,
As I stated earlier, i will be in cali, on the 23 of december and will be statying at LE, Hopefully i will meet a couple of you. The reason i'm posting this is to get a few thoughts of my situation right now. Nothing major, but just to get it out there. I saw one of the girls from the LE site, and requested the information of the female from margaret. She said she couldn't give the information until I had paid for one of their forms of membership. I said okay, and took the Bed and breakfast.(looking back, and learning more since then, i realized I shouldn't have done this, but oh well. you live and learn). After sending payment(via paypal) she stated she would send me the info. After two days, i had not recieved it, and I emailed her asking where was the info. She said she could not give me the girls information, until the latina, came into the agency and saw my profile and decided she was interested or not. I got heated because that's not what she told me in the beginning. I didn't flip out, I said okay, and waited to see the outcome of this. The latina came to the agency(8 days later) and stated she would like to get to know me better, and sent me a video(very nice by the way). I called  her up, and we talked and she seemed real nice. My problem is that on three occasions in the past month and a half, i've called her house and asked for her and whoever answered the phone hung up on me. First time I asked for her, the person said un momento, and after a few seconds, i heard a click and dial tone. I would call back and noone would answer. this happened twice. On the third time about 4 days ago, a female answered and I asked for the latina and the female hesistated and said "ummm....." and then I heard a male voice in the background, and she hung up the phone. Once again I called back and noone answered. I tried twice more, both times no answer. Granted my spanish isn't perfect, and I honestly have no idea whether it was her, her sister or mother who's answering the phone. I called margaret and told her what had happened and she said she would contact the latina and see what the deal is, and in the meantime to send the names of other lainas i'm interested in. Needless to say, i told margaret i'm not going to call this latina no more. For one thing, If she is interested i would expect a little more effort on her part to at least email me, I could understand if she doesn't call for obvious reasons. Sorry for the length, just wanted to put everything out there, for other points of view. take care, and thanks for reading.
Bryan

[zack]

... in response to just want to get some feedback, posted by chizz on Nov 24, 2003

Chizz,

Your story is a big reason why I prefer to meet ladies in person rather than via phone or email. I'm not saying it is useless to develop some communications prior to your trip. But the hassels that it often brings has made me finally say "the hell with it".

Zack

[Pete E]

... in response to just want to get some feedback, posted by chizz on Nov 24, 2003

Bryan,
You contacted the girl,she sounds interesting but it seems there might be alot you don't know.Who is hanging up the phone? A boyfriend or just another family member that doesn't want her to talk to you?
I would go down,meet her,get an explanation of what the hell the  deal is with the phone.If it still seems OK proceed.There are lots of girls down there so don't get too invested in one you have not even met.Meet lots of girls,watch for stories that don't jive,and hopefully find a good one.You can't do it long distance.Plus its so much more fun in person.
Good luck,I might see you down there.I will be there Dec.5 on and intend to check out latin encounters.Lots of interesting girls plus its 6 blocks from where I think I will be living.

Pete

[ald07]

... in response to just want to get some feedback, posted by chizz on Nov 24, 2003

chizz need to talk to you...... email me  ald07@msn.com

[denvermike]

... in response to just want to get some feedback, posted by chizz on Nov 24, 2003

There could be lots of things going on here, you will probably never know for sure.  Most of these girls don´t tell their parents what they are doing because they may be a little embarrassed over a marriage agency.  Also her folks may not approve of it, especally if her father is in the picture.

When you start talking you are clearly a gringo and sometimes they think it is a wrong number. I have had this happen to me even under more normal circumstances.

She may have a bad relationship with the folks she lives with and they just hang up to spite her.  When the women don´t have a celluar phone, you can expect this to happen quiet often. More than likely she never finds out that you called. Latin families are some of the most disfunctional I have ever seen.  

If you continue to have communication problems, it is time to find someone else, it is usually just the tip of the iceberg.

[chizz]

... in response to Re: just want to get some feedback, posted by denvermike on Nov 24, 2003

I kind of suspected something like that, you know maybe her family. But I've called before and whoever answered the phone would get her, especially her brother who loves to practice his english when I call. It's amazing how something we take for granted(speaking english) is very desirable to some of the colombians. My main problem is the fact that she's only emailed me once and that was the initial time she saw my profile at the agency.I would expect at least an attempt of some sort, if she is interested. Unfortunately, working in law enforcement I can sense when something is wrong. Even though I like to give the benefit of the doubt, the last time i called was very fishy, and the fact that noone answered when I called right back, is a big problem to me. thanks for the input.
Bryan

[HeyNow]

... in response to Re: Re: just want to get some feedback, posted by chizz on Nov 24, 2003

Chizz,
 Did you get her direct email address or was it a agency system email address?

[chizz]

... in response to Just a quick question, posted by HeyNow on Nov 26, 2003

She told me she did not have an email address. The email came from the agency, but apparently she wrote the message and used their email address and computer.

[HeyNow]

... in response to Re: Just a quick question, posted by chizz on Nov 26, 2003

Really?
 Seems a little strange to me.  If she uses a computer (even if she doesn't have her own) it would be highly likely she has an email address.  They are free you know.
If my memory serves me well, every Colombian woman I met had an email address.  They love to email friends and family. If they don't own a computer at home they use the computer at work, school, etc.  Chizz, this seems a little fishy (could be a bait and switch).  If you are still pursuing this woman you might want to ask some questions.  

[chizz]

... in response to Re: Re: Just a quick question, posted by HeyNow on Nov 26, 2003

I think you might know much more about what goes on down there than i do. What exactly is the bait and switch? I do feel she should have access to a  computer, and my biggest gripe was I didn't recieve one email even though she said she was interested.Alot about this situation bothers me, but my thinking now is i'm going to go down there in dec, and just take it from there.

[HeyNow]

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Just a quick question, posted by chizz on Nov 26, 2003

Good thinking, go down to Cali and see it for yourself I am sure you will have a great time.  You might meet the gal you were trying to contact and you two might acheive some common ground.  If you haven't been there before you need to "Git on the plane".  The stories of ChippeChapi mall are the honest truth.
 "Bait and switch" is term used for some scams.  I'll give an example.  I saw an add in the paper for an Infiniti car at a used car lot. It seemed like a good buy.  I called to see if it was still available.  I was assured it was.  I drove to see it and talked to the salesman.  The salesman said, "Just a minute."  He came back and said someone had put a deposit on the car, "would you like to see others." Of course I explained I had called before coming and was told it was available.  His reply, "sorry for the mixup."
I said I will buy it now.  His reply, "can't do it."  This is an example of the "Bait and Switch" scam.  The "Bait" is something you want or desire.  Of course the "Bait"  is unavailable.  Then everything is "Switched".  I think you understand.

[denvermike]

... in response to Re: Re: just want to get some feedback, posted by chizz on Nov 24, 2003

She is probably chating up lots of guys on the interent too.

Meeting someone over the internet is difficult at best.

[JSlo]

... in response to just want to get some feedback, posted by chizz on Nov 24, 2003

Looks like you are going to have to move on. This one is dead. You have to be willing to cut your losses asap while down there. It seems cold, but you don't have unlimited time and money so you have to remove your 'nice factor' and be about the business of finding someone that is absolutely crazy about you. You are correct about the effort on her part. If she was really interested in you, she would have attempted to contact you. Live and learn.
Wish you the best. How long will you be there?
JSlo

[chizz]

... in response to Re: just want to get some feedback, posted by JSlo on Nov 24, 2003

I feel you are right. The no contact is what is really bothering me. I will be down there from the 23 to the 29th. I stayed in Barranquilla for ten days, and felt that was to long, so i wanted to keep it short. Thanks for the feedback. I feel exactly how you feel, it's just good to hear from someone outside the picture. thanks again.
Bryan

[Fuzzyone]

... in response to Re: Re: just want to get some feedback, posted by chizz on Nov 24, 2003

Chizz
 What did you think of Barranquilla? Was irt clean? where did you get
your ticket from and how did you do on price?

Thanks