Why Latin men?

[Pete E]

... in response to Why Latin men?, posted by mar33 on Nov 14, 2003

Rambling thoughts:
I presume your recent experience was in the US,not a latin country.
Particularly if they are both foreign born latins they can have a connection that is unique.Not only do they speak the language but understand nueances(?) of the language.Humor jives.There can be a fast banter back and forth that could probably not happen with a non latin.Also the women will have a special connection to men from their own country.Just being a Colombian gives lots in common and lots to talk about.
But there are personality charicteristics common to latin men latin women like.Confidence is one.Maybe its upbringing or just having alot of women available but latinos will be confident in most cases.They like to joke and flirt,easy banter,humor comes easy.We gringos tend to take ourselves too seriously.Similar to confidence is attitude.I am great,so are you(the woman) but not as great as me.
I watched a skinny little average lookig latino in a bar one time(in the US),talking to this girl,his date,an asian girl.I couldn't hear what he was saying but you could just see he was flirting and thought he was gods gift to women.I don't know if she was going for it but it sure had her attention.
In Colombia the girls can be attracted to Colombianos for many of the same reasons they can decide they are bad news.Confidence,not giving a damn,having several girls going at once.But after being left with a baby or 2 while Don Juan is chasing other women they can get real tired of it.We tend to be attracted to what we can't get,so these guys are at least a challenge.But many a latina has said No Mas.But bring her here where she has everything and the same type guy might be an interesting diversion.
In Colombia though,we,gringos and other foreigners tend to be the hot item.Why?Well we will have alot more money to spend,like night and day difference.And we seem rich to them or they think we offer opportunity.Were kind of exotic,different.Poor Colombianos,like poor Colombianas,are a dime a dozen.Life is tough.We offer an alternative to that tough life.
My wife was watching Pedro el Escamoso(Colombian humerous novella).There was this scene in a bar.The were 2 gringos.The girls were going for them.This Colombiano sitting at the table thought he would show up the gringos and picked up the check.He took one look at it,got this pained expression and put it back down.
One thing is for sure,if you are in Colombia your novia or wife is not going to get all excited because there is another Colombian.They are all around you.
When I was in Panama I was at a very nice bar/restaurant.There was this table of young couples.One young guy was sloppy fat but had a good looking girlfriend or wife.The guy was talking like he was a big shot,very self important.I thought maybe he is from a rich family,maybe thats the attraction.

Pete

[Calipro]

... in response to Why Latin men?, posted by mar33 on Nov 14, 2003

Don't let one night on the town skew your perception of reality. I'm not a sociologist so I won't quote any exact figures. But, I have seen stats. that suggest latinos have interacial relationships 4 times more than whites or blacks. Not only is the latino population growing very fast they are spreading like no other.

My ex-caleña left for another gringo. He is about three years younger than me. I guess that's why she left. HeHeHe!!

[cancunhound]

... in response to Re: Why Latin men?, posted by Calipro on Nov 14, 2003

Another one I read recently was that of not only dealing with other races but "same sex" cheating.  Kind of a new meaning to the 'machista' thing - one latina that was loyal had contracted AIDS and was questioned how she contracted the disease.  At first, "No way my husband is gay!" - after a little pause - "well now that I think of it, anything's possible".

[mar33]

... in response to Re: Why Latin men?, posted by Calipro on Nov 14, 2003

Calipro,
      I certainly can understand your situation. I could accept being left for a doctor,especially with perks like free plastic surgery:)Besides your ex, I don't know who these latinas are dating.
  But any middle to upper class area is usually full of cookie cutter average bleached blond wives with short haircuts. You would think most of those neighborhoods would be full of gorgeous foreign women.There are certainly enough already in the U.S. Especially since latins are the largest growing minority here.
        Mark

[Calipro]

... in response to Re: Re: Why Latin men?, posted by mar33 on Nov 14, 2003

Most guys that I know that stuck with cookie cutter bleached blond wives have given up already. They have come to terms with their situation and just shake their heads when I talk to them about Colomiba. They don't even want to see what they are missing because in their minds there is no way out.

I don't want to make you guys sick but let me give you an expample. My mother is a 62 year old fairly unattractive women and when we are out more than once I have seen 60 some year old well to do guys hit on her. I look at them and I can't imagine what is going though their minds. They could get something 100 times no 1000 times better in Cali. The problem is they don't know any better and are now simply satified with what they can get here, which isn't much.

[mar33]

... in response to Not really......, posted by Calipro on Nov 14, 2003

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calipro,
       Did'nt you say your father is married to a 20 year old who he had smuggled in from Mexico(ok, that was funny)?      
  To be fair,should'nt you also wonder what goes through her mind because she can get a 100x better now that she is in the U.S.? Or perhaps you think she should just be grateful and not think.
         Well, maybe she likes very old men, in the way some men(lord knows why) are into very old ladies in their 60's and up. There are magazines and websites geared towards men who are attracted to ladies old enough to be their grandmothers. So there is obviously someone out there for everyone.Though it may certainly not be in our taste.
    Now, there are also many men who preffer a woman be fluent in his language like me,so Cali is not the answer for everyone. I thought it was important my fiance be able to communicate with friends and family in English. Also, I think the most important part of a relationship is communication. Unfortunately, though I grew up around  latins,Spanish does not seem easy for me and I am sure many others.
   I have often thought it is too bad there could not be a successful agency with pretty foreign women already  in the U.S.Whoever can pull that off would make a mint. Just the business side of me thinking out loud:)
          mark

[Calipro]

... in response to Re: Not really......, posted by mar33 on Nov 15, 2003

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He never married her. Actually he got sick of her after a few months and drove her back to Mexico. I didn't think 62 year old guys could get sick of 20 year olds but he proved me wrong. He kind of pissed me off because I told him if it didn't work out I knew some mexican she could live with here because she told me once that she didn't want to go back.

When it comes to Caleñas I think it is very important that she learn english so she can really enjoy and recieve the full benefits of living in the U.S. I have plenty of mexicano friends that advised me not to teach her english and never buy more than one car. According to them your wife has no business leaving the house if you are at work. I never agreed with that kind of thinking. I never want to be so hard up that I have to keep a woman down to keep her.

Although I would suggest that any guy that has a desire to marry a spanish speaking woman should learn spanish. You will never understand her 100% if you don't. The things that they say in spanish that they will never say in english are HUGE clues as to how they really think. Also it makes the relationship that much better and intimate. You can say "I love you" a hundred times and it doesn't equal one "Te amo".

[surfscum]

... in response to Not really......, posted by Calipro on Nov 14, 2003

Geez Calipro, you would even devalue your own mother to make a point? Do you have any natural affection, or is everyone just a body? What is sick is not the idea of 60 year olds in love, but that I feel like I have to defend your mother. What's wrong with this picture?

[Pete E]

... in response to Your own mother?, posted by surfscum on Nov 15, 2003

I think I understand what he was saying.We can have these attitudes about older women but usually we try not to think of the older women that we are close to in that light.
But its true.He was telling a story.These guys were hitting on his mom and he either objectively or coldly take your pick,admitted his mother was not very attractive.
I was talking to my 64 year old sister(she is a real sweetheart,looks about 50) a few days ago trying to describe why I was going to Cali.I try to put it in a way that doesn't directly knock older women.I just told her that as I had gotten older I had not  changed my expectations about what I wanted in a woman,and going to Cali I don't have to.
I think she is very worried about me.Her daughterin Law is A Colombiana from a wealthy family in Tolima.They are very afraid of crime.Her bother was kidnapped in Spain by Colombians and held for rasnsom.Itcost the oldman many 1000's of $$ to get him released.
This lady,maria,tried to call me yesterday and left a message.I'm sure she is upset because she really likes Rocio but I think she wants to warn me again.

Pete

[Calipro]

... in response to Your own mother?, posted by surfscum on Nov 15, 2003

From old age or the old geezers that hit on her?

[Fuzzyone]

... in response to Defender her from what??, posted by Calipro on Nov 15, 2003

You know something calipro my day was going down hill until I read this
you are sometimes a funny guy!!!

[beenthere]

... in response to Your own mother?, posted by surfscum on Nov 15, 2003

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Surfscum,
I would love to make a follow-up to YOUR post, but due to a "gentlemen's" agreement, I will have to hold my tongue.
I'm sure cancunhound can come up with a quote from Hamlet that might be considered appropriate.

[Kiltboy1]

... in response to Why Latin men?, posted by mar33 on Nov 14, 2003

Because they are the most romantic men in the world and the language is very seductive. It is not until your woman is cheated on 5 or 6 times--yes, it takes that many  times, and maybe hit a few times as well , before she is on the phone and calling you for forgiveness . then you will truely understand the answer to your question.

[Red Clay]

... in response to Re: Why Latin men?, posted by Kiltboy1 on Nov 14, 2003

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[mar33]

... in response to Re: Why Latin men?, posted by Kiltboy1 on Nov 14, 2003

Yep,
    My Brazilian ex called after she just had a baby by the DJ who would not marry her. She actually had the nerve to complain about his cheating and told me she made a mistake by leaving. I could not believe the nerve she had to think I actually would come and dig her out of the hole she made for herself.
   Mark