Agency insights

[bigbdm4]

There are different kinds of agencies.  I got a lot of flack before about this subject, perhaps you all can recall that early posting.  Anyway, this posting is an insight, from one who knows something about agencies.  Still with me?  I am telling what I know about the different kinds of agencies.  I am happy to post this, in the hopes that you will benefit from it.

In my opinion, the most popular type of agency on this list is an agency run by gringos, maybe two of them, where a guy can go and stay at their hotel, and go to a big room full of girls, choose one, or three, and have a happy time, and pick and choose a girl he has never met, knows absolutely nothing about but for the candy taste, and if he really wants to score, he can take her home.  Granted, that is a path to heaven, but after is all is said and done, there are obstacles in that path.  We have all heard some horror stories about that kind of agency.  And that kind of girl you meet.  My opinion about the most popular type of agency on this list may not be correct.  And there are other agencies out there.  

Another type of agency is more discreet.  And a lot more expensive.  They interview you and find out what kind of girl you want, and the fee is not cheap.  Excuse me, but I have never seen it go the other way, that is, a gal in search of a guy has to pay.  Going only one way and not the other is illegal, it's called sexual discrimination.  You all are probably too young to know about the fight for equality first hand.  I was a freedom rider, so I just hope you don't take it for granted, because I knew people who were killed so that you, yes YOU, could swim in the same restaurants, eat in the same Disneylands, and live in the same apartment building as honkies.  But I am old, I met and worked with Martin Luther King.  I am here to tell you that it is illegal to offer it to one sex, and not the other.  Illegal to charge one sex a fee, and offer the same service to the other sex for free.  My question to you is are you contributing to the illegal sexual  discrimination commonly practiced by many agencies?

Just for fun, let us put all those agencies out there into three groups.  Good agencies, gray agencies, and dog agencies.  Dog agencies do exist.  You can buy a person, a slave, if you are really in that sort of market.  Not expensive in India or Iraq.  Such an agency is going to take your money and in exchange make available to you sex slaves.  Is that your idea of marriage?  Or even sex?  If you want to tie her up, whip her, torture and kill her, that is the agency for you.  I just hope nobody reading this is excited about that.  Gray agencies?  Yeah, you check into their hotel and the girls swarm all over you.  You would think that you had died and had gone to heaven.  I remember the Twilight Zone episode about that.  In the end Mr. Valentine, the murdered louse, realized it wasn't heaven.  Shucks, you all are probably too young to know anything about the Twilight Zone.  Well, I am here to tell you that Mr. Valentine was a cheap hoodlum, who thought he had gone to heaven, but he was in Hell and didn't even know it.  

Other agencies are not agencies at all, they are sharks in the water, they are switchboards.  They advertise with full page ads in cheap newspapers, and the girls, never the guys, sign up for free.  Unbeknownst to the girls, their addresses and private info is sold to anyone on the Internet.  I have heard that about half of the cuties you see are real, the other half are just there to draw you into their scheme.  But on the other hand, the half that are real are really real, so batting five hundred, those agencies win big.  The problem at the other end, can you imagine, is that the girl gets calls from all over the world at all hours of the day and night, from total strangers asking her if she wants to boogie.  How would it be if an agency you did business with did that to you?  Sell your address to any crazy stalker out there?  Somebody calling you at a zillion o'clock in the night and breathing heavy in some language you had no idea about.  How would you like that?  

The best, finally, I want to talk about the good agencies.  They don't do it for money, they do it for love.  It is a passion, I don't know of but a few, none in Cali, by the way, that I know of.  These agencies represent responsible people.  In countries like Brazil, meeting a foreigner is still a little uncertain, but with the Internet, it's better than ten years ago.  Getting married to a Brazilian in Brazil is an ordeal, it takes about a year, you have to have permission from your parents, you have to have a letter from the cops that you are not the great train robber seeking refuge in Brazil, did you see that movie?  And the girl's family doesn't want her to leave, and usually, neither does she.  If she finds her prince, she will leave Brazil, but she will only leave for love, not for money.  So finding a wife in Brazil who is willing to leave Brazil and come to your country is a lot different than other Latin countries, it's not an easy thing.  I know of a couple agencies in Brazil that are responsible.  Somebody on this list is going to start an agency in the city of marvels, she said.  I only hope she is going to be responsible about it, and I wish her "the force", which is a literal translation, it means good luck.  

The end, now.  No agency is best.  That is, just go.  You don't need any agency.  Only full figured pigs need an agency.  I said that before.  You don't need any agency.  You need to go there.  Just walk down the street, say hi, live a little, expand your horizons, see what God gave to us, and you, have some fun.  Latin America is the last place that us humans found on this earth.  For some natives in the jungles, life has not changed in fifteen thousand years, and for the rest of the people you find there, it is much different than the old world, than Asia, or any other place in this world.  If you are still with me, my final and strongest urging is to stop reading this, shut down your computer, pack your bags, and get down there!

Big B

[Locii]

... in response to Agency insights, posted by bigbdm4 on Nov 18, 2003

BigB,

I have read some of your Brazil posts and am interested in Brazil so I tend to bypass your off-topic statements "Only full figured pigs need an agency. I said that before."...But this...

"I was a freedom rider, so I just hope you don't take it for granted, because I knew people who were killed so that you, yes YOU, could swim in the same restaurants, eat in the same Disneylands, and live in the same apartment building as honkies."

Newsflash, BigB, I am a caucasian male.  Ergo, I am a honkie, I guess, in your world.  I read what you wrote a dozen times...thinking..."he didn't really write that, did he?".

Oh, wait I wasn't alive then, so I guess maybe I'm not a honkie (http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=honkie), just my parents and their parents?  I can't imagine the logic failure that occurred for that to come out, so in fact I have come to the conclusion that you meant it, and are racist.

Thats ok, I have met a thousand racist african americans in my 37 years on this planet, and apparently you just gave me permission to call them the N-word.

Wait, now we have a problem.  I just realized, I am a racist...my favorite females in the world are mulatto.  Oh, my, what will I do?  If I am discovered as a racist I might lose my job...I think the only place I can work then is BET.

Sincerly,

Honkie Locii

PS: You wrote: "I am here to tell you that it is illegal to offer it to one sex, and not the other. Illegal to charge one sex a fee, and offer the same service to the other sex for free. My question to you is are you contributing to the illegal sexual discrimination commonly practiced by many agencies?"

Uh.  Er.  How old are you again?

[Bueller]

... in response to Re: Agency insights, posted by Locii on Nov 21, 2003

PS: You [lil' b] wrote: "I am here to tell you that it is illegal to offer it to one sex, and not the other. Illegal to charge one sex a fee, and offer the same service to the other sex for free. My question to you is are you contributing to the illegal sexual discrimination commonly practiced by many agencies?"

  I don't know why any of us bother with this guy. So dry cleaners and hairstylists shouldn't be able to charge more for women? And this is all "illegal" according to what law? And what about all these nighclubs in Brazil that let women in for free on certain nights at certain times? Is that illegal, too? You should go on a crusade, lil' b, you concerned citizen, you!

[cancunhound]

... in response to Agency insights, posted by bigbdm4 on Nov 18, 2003

Not sure what your point here is - but there is validity in some of your theories. In Cali there is at least one agency that would be considered one of the "good apples" - some do assess fees for the women to join, albeit not near that to what gringo's are assessed.  "Just go there" is valid advice, but for the gringo that speaks little spanish and is not well travelled "just go there" is probably not a sound recommendation - that's where the importance of quality agencies have a place.  At the end of the day - an agency is only as useful as the gringo makes it.  One thing for sure, never send a dime to any agency membership before actually getting down there and checking it out - even the good ones have turnover in management.

Now the party operations that specialize in the tours - well even they have a place to for those seeking hand-holding and party girls.

[Ken2]

... in response to Agency insights, posted by bigbdm4 on Nov 18, 2003

Dude,
honest post, maybe a little harsh for those it really speaks of.  On my trip to Cali, both times a meet my fair share of wealthy twits/dingalings.  There were some regular guys tired of the scene in the US like I was, but your right some have some pretty twisted motives (they pop up on this board from time to time).

ken

[roadken]

... in response to Agency insights, posted by bigbdm4 on Nov 18, 2003

PLEASE,PLEASE!!!WILL YOU PLEASE START TAKING YOUR MEDICATION AGAIN?!!!Martin Luther King??Ohh,pleaseeeeeeeee.

[bigbdm4]

... in response to Re: Agency insights, posted by roadken on Nov 18, 2003

Hi Ken, how's it going?  Thanks.  I love riding a Harley, too.  You never go back, ya know?  I have an army surplus olive green hog, but now painted red.  Pan head, foot plates, three on the tank.  How are your daughters?  Fine as can be, I hope.  I am glad that you liked my posting.  You know, I knew a guy who rode his bike from Alaska to Tierra del Fuego.  That is the tip of South America.  Crazy, eh?  Do you ride much these days?  I don't, my wife is happy about that, but sometimes I mess the bugs in my teeth.  Just kidding.  I had a bee fly into my mouth and sting me on the tongue once.  No kidding.

You are my medicine, Ken.  The more you write, the better I feel.  What about you?  Are you taking your medicine like a good biker?

I guess I touched a nerve about Martin Luter King.  Did you know him, too?  Or what?  What's the problem, Ken?  What is the matter with you?  KKK, or new Nazi, or what?  Why don't you like me talking about racial equality on this list?  

Big B

[roadken]

... in response to Re: Re: Agency insights, posted by bigbdm4 on Nov 19, 2003

I have no problem with racial topics,or most tpoics for that matter.What is offensive is blatant lies,self promotion from someone who has got to be extremly self centered.But I digress.Shall we do the math?Martin Luther King did his marches in the early to mid sixties.You say you are 55.You would have been around 15-16 at the time.
I find it highly implausible sir.For the record,Brazil is not really Latin.They speak portugese and seem to have many of those nazi's you speak of.Ciao.

[bigbdm4]

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Agency insights-Bigbdm4, posted by roadken on Nov 19, 2003

Actually, I think I was about 14 years old when I met Dr. King.  I agree that lies are offensive, I am not a lier, and I hope nobody reading this is.  I was a freedom rider in the summer of 1963, and I was born in the summer of 1948, so why don't you do the math yourself.  Just so everybody knows, children were very key in the movement, because the parents had to work and were not able to demonstrate.  Also, the TV news was more dramatic if they showed the fire hoses and the dogs being directed at us kids.      

Oh, so you agree that Brazil is not Latin!  Yea, did you read that you listers?  Ha!  Somebody, after all these years, agrees with me!

Nazis in Brazil?  Yeah, but only when the cops come looking for them in Argentina, they duck across into Brazil to evade capture, but don't usually live in Brazil.  

That's "Tchau", not "ciao", which is Italian.

Big B

[Bueller]

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Re: Agency insights-Bigbdm4, posted by bigbdm4 on Nov 19, 2003

I guess it was really out of character, then, for you to lie and tell me Lester Buck is a successful ex-client of yours. He gave you a good hard smackdown over that whopper, didn't he?

[bigbdm4]

... in response to Re: lil' b and  Lies, posted by Bueller on Nov 20, 2003

Yeah, there was some confusion about that, because it was so long ago that I couldn't remember if he was just interested or if he actually paid us money, our records were lost in the flood, and like the song, you can't regain what went down.  Either way, it's none of your business.  I can not speak about Lester on this list, he is a good friend, but I don't think he would mind my saying here that he did go to Brazil, beyond that, I will not comment.  If you want to make it into a federal case, go to Lester, or go to the FBI, do us all a favor and don't drag your lousy laundry here.  My pants are not on fire, why are you burning with fire and passion?

Why can't you be aboveboard?  Why is it that every time I post, I get threats of being thrown off this list or else accused of being a liar?  Why do you refuse to describe yourself in your profile, refuse to disclose your whereabouts, even your age is a secret.  Why are you hiding and then attacking honest people?  Almost four hundred posting from you, were they all poison pen postings like this one?  Is that how you get your rocks off?

If you don't have anything constructive to offer us, get out out town.  

Big B

[Bueller]

... in response to Re: Re: lil' b and  Lies, posted by bigbdm4 on Nov 21, 2003

"Yeah, there was some confusion about that, because it was so long ago that I couldn't remember if he was just interested or if he actually paid us money, our records were lost in the flood, and like the song, you can't regain what went down."

  Some confusion...sure. And he was a "successful former client": you couldn't remember whether he got married as a result of using your agency, either?

 "Why is it that every time I post, I get threats of being thrown off this list or else accused of being a liar?"

  Gee, could it have something to do with your "Brazil rules, everywhere else sucks" condescension? Could it be your addressing your audience as "Users and abusers/ winners and losers/ fat walruses"? As for me, I called you a liar because I've seen you get caught in a big one. And I never said anything about you getting thrown off the list; in fact I think it's kind of cool that Patrick has let you stay and poop on your own plate-- it's more punitive than kicking you out of here.

 "Why do you refuse to describe yourself in your profile, refuse to disclose your whereabouts, even your age is a secret."

 I'll borrow a page from your playbook on this one: it's none of your business. Oh, and another page, you grammar expert: a question ends with a question mark, not a period.

 "If you don't have anything constructive to offer us, get out out town."

 After you...

[Bueller]

... in response to Re: Re: Re: lil' b and  Lies, posted by Bueller on Nov 21, 2003

Now I remember...you wrote:

"Yeah, there was some confusion about that, because it was so long ago that I couldn't remember if he was just interested or if he actually paid us money, our records were lost in the flood, and like the song, you can't regain what went down."

 Here was his take on your whopper:

"Dear Brian,

1. I have no memory of any client relationship with you or your company.

2. You certainly have no idea of my successes or failures, in Brazil or elsewhere.

I do not appreciate your spreading incorrect information about me.

Do not do this anymore."

 So what was this about you and Dr. King, and you being against liars, and all that?

[bigbdm4]

... in response to Quite a hole you're digging yourself her..., posted by Bueller on Nov 21, 2003

That's interesting that you are quoting Lester, taken from a private message between he and I.  I wonder how you cracked into our private e-mail exchanges.  I am sure both Lester and I consider you a scumbag for that, for sure you don't have permission.  It's double interesting that you cut it off in the middle, without the good part, and then switched to some other comment, also out of context, about one of my heroes.

It's curious how you intercepted a private message between Lester and me.  Would you please expalain to us all how you were able to violate my privacy?  I am sure Lester would also be very interested.  

Big B

[Bueller]

... in response to Re: Quite a hole you're digging yourself..., posted by bigbdm4 on Nov 21, 2003

[This message has been edited by Bueller]

 That's what "sent to: undisclosed recipients" means.