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[Calipro]

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Where's the love??, posted by mar33 on Nov 9, 2003

mar33

I'm sorry I just can't relate to just about anything you say.

I am just not that fearful of life. No I don't think my new wife is going to leave me and or be disappointed in me in anyway. Why would I?

I think you should read what you wrote below and ask yourself one question. Am I depressed? I'm not trying to be funny but I could never kick myself in the ass with those kinds of thoughts.

"And if you had a lick of sense you will not let her out of your sight either. Young latinas coming to the U.S. may find plenty of AM who she thinks are really "her type" .
Didn't the ex leave you for a plastic surgeon? Or perhaps she left you and gave the excuse she really had no reason, but women rarely leave for no reason at all. Most leave because someone better came along.Once they realize you are not a BIG fish in a Big pond, but in the U.S. just your average guy who has to work hard to make a decent living, reality sets in. Especially for those "model" types who are spoiled and are extremely naive about the U.S. and modeling and money."

Yes, my ex left me for a plastic surgeon and then she left him. I just don't see how another persons actions are a reflection on me. I never could understand that line of reasoning. You can never know for absolutely sure what is in the heart and mind of another person so I try to focus on what is truely in my heart and mind and be true to myself. That's all you can do. If there are no red flags and she says she loves you, you have to believe her why torture yourself with thoughts that you are some how not good enough for her or that she is insincere.

About the only thing you can be absolutely sure about is weather or not she enjoys having sex with you because you can always measure (with a ruler or yard stick as the case my be) the wet spot in the middle of your bed after the two of you have sex. Hell I don't know maybe a woman can even fake a wet spot. The point is don't torture yourself about things you can't do a thing about. Well I guess you could marry a women that nobody else wants but that doesn't seem like a very good solution to me. How about you?

[lswote]

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Re: Where's the love??, posted by Calipro on Nov 9, 2003

[This message has been edited by lswote]

The problem is sex is just one component to a relationship and you are pretty much making it the totality of a relationship.  Among all these young women you have been seeing, certainly a majority of them want children, and no method of birth control is flawless and with all the sex you talk of having, you are just begging to get one of these girls pregnant and then you have a whole different animal on your hands.  Colombians pretty much don't consider abortion, so you then have the moral dilema of whether you want to be responsible for a child or not.

It seems to me you aren't thinking very far into the future.  You are not going to be forty forever.  You are not always going to get off scott-free with few ramifications for your choices.

[Calipro]

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Where's the love??, posted by lswote on Nov 9, 2003

Iswote

Don't worry yourself about these girls. I'm pretty careful when it comes to having sex and I can prove it. I have no children that I know of. Believe me if I did get one of these women pregnant it wouldn't be the worst thing that could happen to them. I would marry her and bring her here or I would buy her an apartment in Cali and take care of my only child. Hell it would be like winning the lottery for some of them.
It isn't my goal to knock any of these women up. But, if it happened I would take care of it.

[Hamlet]

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Where's the love..., posted by Calipro on Nov 10, 2003

I have a good friend in Vietnam living your life but in Asia rather than S America (that is the reason I enjoy reading your posts so much).  He bought a VN girl out of a Cambodian "house", (her first lottery prize), then got her pregnant (prize #2) and in order to care for his boy bought her a rice paddy, a new motorcycle and sends her $150/month (prize #3).

She is the wealthiest person in her rural village, and his largess supports her whole family.

I met her personally and she is very happy.

[beenthere]

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Where's the love..., posted by Calipro on Nov 10, 2003

Marrying Calipro and having him as the father of their children equates to winning the lottery??
I've heard it all now Calipro..............
please guys, don't take this chump so seriously........it's obvious by comments such as this that he's just trying to get a rise out of everyone........either that or he's definitely losing his mind..........

[Calipro]

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Where's the ..., posted by beenthere on Nov 10, 2003

All posts that are nothing but personal attacks on Calipro should be e-mailed to: calipro2003@nospam.com  .

Think of all the foul language you can use in a personal e-mail attack that you can't use on this board.

I'll respond in kind; time permitting.

[Pete E]

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Re: Where's the love??, posted by Calipro on Nov 9, 2003

Measure the wet spot to decide how good it was? LOL !
OK,2 college co eds are living together.One goes out to a party,comes home drunk,is singing and laughing and throwing her clothes as she takes them off.The next morning she says what a party,boy did I have a good time.The other girl says you were so drunk I'm surprised you can even remember having a good time.First girls says "when my panties stick to the ceiling I know I had a good time."

Pete

[DallasSteve2]

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Re: Where's the love??, posted by Calipro on Nov 9, 2003

CaliPro

Good points.

I'd like to add another.  There's a widely held point of view that if a relationship ends both parties are to blame.  I don't think that's always true.

I'll agree that both parties always make mistakes, we're only human.  However, there are mistakes and then there are relationship-killers.  Sometimes only one of the parties are commiting "relationship-killers".

That is to say, if I had done everything right in my last marriage it still would have failed because she never loved me.  I thought she did.  She said she did.  But she didn't.  That's a "relationship-killer".

Likewise, there may have been nothing you could have done differently that would have saved your marriage.  I don't know.  The fact that it ended proves nothing conclusive in terms of your behavior.

Steve

[Pete E]

... in response to Relationship-killers, posted by DallasSteve2 on Nov 9, 2003

If they don't love you the best you could have done is extend the problem.
I learned that lesson years ago.I was in a relationship with a girl who didn't love me.I did everything I could to make her love me,nothing worked.I was moping around my house one Saturday morning,listening to sad country songs.I noticed 2 things.One,I was actually enjoying moping around in the sadness.Then I just laughed out loud at what I had done.It just hit me they either love you or they don't and if they don't there isn't anything you can do about it anyway.Funny though,that girl came back about 15 years and 30 lbs later and wanted me back.I wasn't interested at all.
I then forgot that lesson  when I went to Colombia.I thought new rules applied,as in I can change her life so much for he better she will love me for sure.Nope.Doesn't work that way.She might stay around for awhile,but probably care for you less and less as time goes on.

Pete

[Ralph]

... in response to Basically right, posted by Pete E on Nov 9, 2003

I put that rule above all others. If I wind up breaking up plater on for incompatibility issues etc, at least I never feel bitter or that I wasted time etc.

If the girl is not CRAZY about you, keep looking.

[Pete E]

... in response to Number one rule, posted by Ralph on Nov 9, 2003

From someone who didn't take the time to be sure  I couldn't agree more.I'm still living with my mistake.No fun to be in the same house as a beautifull woman who wants nothing to do with you.
But not for long now!

Pete

[mar33]

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Re: Where's the love??, posted by Calipro on Nov 9, 2003

Calipro,
  I want to marry for life. That may be a bit naive but that is me. There is sex available everywhere. You do not have to marry a woman just because you two have chemistry.

 I have dated quite a few girls who came to this country on their onw. Most barely knew English,some just as beautiful as your ex. But I have learned one thing. I don't care how beautiful a woman is. If she wants to be a model,actress,or she is very young ect, I stay away.They do not know what they want from one day to the next.
 I ,like others like beautiful women, but I am not ruled by that only. I was never starved for attention from girls. I guess that is why I understand beauty is not the only thing relationships are about. Just like I have no respect for a woman who places a man's profession and money before all else.
   There are still tons of latinas in the U.S. Why not use that playing field also if you are so confident? You see a man who truly thinks he is a pro understands he can go anywhere and get the best of the best. Why travel. Oops, I forgot, Phoenix only has ugly women. Well Vegas and Los Angeles are a quick plane trip away. Tons of gorgeous girls there. Some even Calenas I'm sure.But I guess a pro like you only is a pro when the girls are impressionable .
      Mark

[Calipro]

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Where's the love??, posted by mar33 on Nov 9, 2003

[This message has been edited by Calipro]

Don't get down on  the young ones. You know there was a time in this country when most of the women got married when they were 18 or 19. Did your mother or grandmother know what they wanted from day to day when they got married at 18 or 19?

Sure there are plenty of beautiful women in Phoenix but a pretty face isn't everything. In case you have never experianced it. The intimate relationship between a Caleña and a Americano and an Americana and a Americano is really some what different. It is hard to put my finger on it. Let me put it like this. I like a woman that goes to the bathroom with the door open and complains if you take a shower without her. The point in the relationship were there are absolutely no inabitions comes around a lot faster with a Caleña.

Why travel? Well, I can for one thing. I prefer to go to the source of the women that I find the most attractive and appealing to me. I feel good about the idea of improving a womans economic situtation and educating her.
Sure I would like to find that special someone that I could spend my whole life with. But, I'm not going to be miserable if it never happens. No matter what you do you can never guarantee that someone will stay with you for ever. Sure you can marry a some what unattractive women with children that doesn't have a lot of options. That will increase your chances of her never leaving you but that just isn't my bag.

mar33, If you really don't want a beautiful wife why travel? IMHO there are plent of unattractive american women that would make wonderful wives. Don't you agree?

[Ralph]

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Where's the love..., posted by Calipro on Nov 9, 2003

You do not ever see shades of gray? You seem to think that between dating only what YOU think are the best 2-3 at an agency and ugly american women, there are no other choices?

You are not the only person to post photos here. many guys have posted photos of their wives or novias. I don't remember any being "unattractive" let alone ugly. Even if they were unnatractive to me or YOU, so what? You assume that the guy also finds the girl unattratctive?

Different people have different tastes. I have posted pics of my novia, and I find her attractive.In fact, I find her more attractive than any of the women in either yours or batmans pictures.  If the rest of the PL members thought she was ugly, I could care less. You OTOH, seem like you need to constantly prove that you can get hot girls. That is not really hard to do, especially when you buy them laptops and send them $150 per month. Heck, they'll even hide their novio for 2 weeks for that. They'll gladly take your cash and bob your knob, but still have the novio that they REALLY love back home.

So. . . .if a woman has a colombian novio, that she LOVES, and agrees to marry you, accept your monthly "donations", laptops, etc etc etc etc. How far removed is she from working in "flora Frescas". Seems you were just on the monthly installment plan rather than COD;-)

[Calipro]

... in response to Black and white?, posted by Ralph on Nov 9, 2003

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I just hate to hear guys talking about what they'll settle for and not what they really want.
It doesn't seem like you fall into that catagory. Am I wrong?
The only two women in Cali that I bought computers for I married. I don't just buy any girl a computer. She has to be a contender for the ring.

What's "Flora Frescas"?