LAI and writing before going

[chevy]

I signed up for the month at a time writing. Not the executive choice for $975. I have been writing and some women show interest and write back. They try to send their e-mail and it gets blocked out. I explain that and they realize that. I have exchanged 3 or 4 e-mails within a week and a half with the few who show real interest. Then for the past week, nothing.
 Is this normal operating procedure.? Is it hard for the women to get to LAI to check their mail? Do they give up on you unless you contact them at their house by phone or at their work e-mail?
  Is it worth getting the executive upgrade for $975 so I can get their personal e-mail, phone and address to maintain better and faster contact before going to LAI in december?.I told them I was coming down, they asked about it.

[Ricardo]

... in response to LAI and writing before going, posted by chevy on Nov 3, 2003

After reading the posts here, and the owner's (LAI) response, I just have to add my 3 cents.  I have used LAI's 'email' program and have to tell you that I am disappointed with it.  I wrote to several ladies, as to be expected, they didn't all reply.  So the ones that were corresponding seemed genuinely interested, and so was I.  Now, here's the rub .... LAI never would let me get to write the lady without going thru' them.  Even tho' the ladies in question wanted to... and they stated that in their replies.  The fact of the matter is the the agency reads (yes, reads) each and every email you send to you lady friend.  That's what their staff is there for... to scan the letter, remove information they don't want the lady to have, such as your phone or email info... then pass along the edited letter to the lady. That i call dishonest, and an intrusion into one's private communication.  So, what's up with that.... well, you guessed it.... the profit motive for the agency.... so they string you along, and only when you cough up the $$$ will you get out of that loop... Shame, double, tripple shame on LAI!

[LatinIntro]

... in response to The 'Greed' Motive  and LAI, posted by Ricardo on Nov 5, 2003

Ricardo. I am open to suggestions as how to offer initial communication between potential male members and our lady clients and not go broke in the process.

I am all ears.

Nelson

[HeyNow]

... in response to Re: The 'Greed' Motive  and LAI, posted by LatinIntro on Nov 6, 2003

Nels,
 I don't think you realize the negative impact.  Let's say for instance you wanted to contact a lady using the internet and you went through the "Our system only" method.  At this point you would have "NO IDEA" what message the lady would receive or what the lady actually said.  Why?  Because all communication is censored by the agency.  As you stated:

"LAI Once again, personal contact information IS NOT CENSORED AT ALL for our all our members, except at the INternet Level".  

That's right "at the internet level"  censoring takes place.  So, you won't know what the agency is telling the lady or if the lady actually got the message.  Who wants to use a system like this?  Nobody. If you insist on using this method you probably will go broke.  Let the paying members write directly to the women's direct email addresses (like yahoo, hotmail, etc.).   Use this method and your hotel will be full and the tours booked.

[Ricardo]

... in response to Re: Re: The 'Greed' Motive  and LAI, posted by HeyNow on Nov 8, 2003

HeyNow,
I agree with your post.  I was - unexpectedly, surprised that my emails were not getting through, before censoring.   Naturally the ladies who were interested wanted me to send my fotos, etc, to get better aquainted, but I couldn't.  Some requested, andI even tried to set up a phone conversation, and couldn't even talk to the ladies using LAI's phone ... maybe, just maybe it is not allowed!
It was to say the least very frustrating.  I just wish LAI would be up-front and clearly state that personal information, eg. email info would not be sent to the ladies..
Another issue is that if a guy choses to communicate any personal information about himself, the agency staff becomes privy to that as well.  Kinda' makes one feel like a little kid being chaperoned.  I would bet the majority of correspondents have not a clue that the agency staff spend most of their time reading communication sent, whether or not it requires translation.  So anything you say is never confidential, and you guys know how latinas love to share info and gossip!!

[HeyNow]

... in response to LAI - be more up-front ....., posted by Ricardo on Nov 8, 2003

Trust me. Staff reads every word.

[LatinIntro]

... in response to LAI and writing before going, posted by chevy on Nov 3, 2003

The discussion below brings up several good points, which in my experience are very true. Before I discuss them in my next post, I will explain the service we offer and the reasoning behind it.

First of all, my agency does not sell addresses of women. We do not do this due to several reasons: 1) because we choose to work at a more personal level of service 2) we strongly believe in men traveling to meet the ladies personally 3) anyone could buy an address of one of our ladies. When you sign up with us as a member, we get to know who you are a little bit better and therefore are not introducing just anyone to the quality women we are signing up 4) Lets say that we allow exchange of contact information with the low monthly membership: men would make personal contact with the women and then set up trips to Colombia just to visit those particular women. We as a business would not be able to remain in business by doing this... Besides, there are many competitors offering to sell addresses, and if that is the desire of any client, he can choose to do so with a different company.
We are strictly a introductory agency, introducing quality single men to beautiful Colombian women at a very personal level.  

So why do we offer our EmailService program? Because it works. Many men have strong doubts about the legitimacy of these types of organization, about if the women really do exist, about the interest they will generate among the ladies, and several other concerns that I might forget to bring up right now. Many men want to know what will happen before they make a $675 or $975 investment in finding a lady in their life.

The main purpose of the EmailService program is to have potential full members get their feet wet and communicate with the different ladies they wish to. THIS IS NOT an email forwarding system.
When our system receives a letter from you many things happen: 1. the system notifies my EMS Staff that a letter has been sent to a particular lady 2. The system sends a reply back to you that we have been notified and that you will be informed in 72 hours of the status of that letter 3. My staff proceeds to contact the lady to tell her she has an email waiting in her inbox to be read if she has an email address, and otherwise gets the message delivered to her through any other mean. 4. My staff notifies you that we have contacted the lady personally and she is aware of you message or otherwise, every 72 hours will let you know what is happening with the letter you sent.

In the case the girl is no longer in the program, is not interested in you, or any other reason for not writing back... you will be informed by us. What I am aiming at with this system, is for any client to know what happens with every single letter he sends. There are several things that fall out of our hands such as a girl telling us she is interested and will write back, and then fails to do so.

I am happy to explain how my program works, simply because I want to make it efficient and worth while for anyone who starts using it. I do make it clear, that if someone has no intention of traveling to Colombia or meeting the women personally, they are wasting their time and ours as well.

[HeyNow]

... in response to LAI and writing before going, posted by chevy on Nov 3, 2003

Take the "In the system only"  emails with a grain of salt.
I wrote and got responses from more than a few gals.  When I met them and stated "I got your email."  Then I get this puzzled look and the woman says "You emailed me and I wrote to you?"  This happen more than a few times. Go figure.  My
advice is if you do get an answer then, ask for the actual email address (this works pretty good).  Better yet, get the email address when you get to Colombia.  Never, had a gal refuse to give me an email address.

[LatinIntro]

... in response to Re: LAI and writing before going, posted by HeyNow on Nov 3, 2003

This will ABSOLUTELY NEVER HAPPEN with LAI. We will not fabricate responses or lie to any client. I am pretty sure my organization enjoys the repuation it has as operating with integrity and with honesty, because this is our best marketing program.

[HeyNow]

... in response to Re: Re: LAI and writing before going, posted by LatinIntro on Nov 5, 2003

I will have to admit LAI seems to be honest.  Except the situation regarding the recent Iswote post regarding Claudia.  It was an LAI lie but, maybe a little white lie.

[lswote]

... in response to Re: Re: Re: LAI and writing before going, posted by HeyNow on Nov 5, 2003

What situation are you talking about?  I told the truth about Claudia's relationship and no one even commented on the post, so I can't imagine what is not honest.  At the time I posted the message, my wife and I had just gotten a wedding invitation in the mail from Claudia and her fiancee.  My wife also has visited Claudia several times in Miami.  Unfortunately the relationship with Claudia and her gringo boyfriend didn't work out as hoped and Claudia has decided against getting married at this time and is going back to Bogota tomorrow.  Where is the dishonesty you are talking about?

Perhaps I shouldn't have posted about Claudia getting engaged and should have waited until she actually got married, but I was excited for her and thought other guys would be too.

[HeyNow]

... in response to re: Claudia?, posted by lswote on Nov 8, 2003

Bruce,
 Sorry to hear things didn't work out.  From what you said it seemed like a done deal.  I guess you could use the quote from that baseball catcher, "It aint over till it's over".  Dishonesty?  Go back and reread your post.  I am sure you will figure it out.  Hope everything is well with your family.  You sure went through a lot.

Peace

[lswote]

... in response to Re: re: Claudia?, posted by HeyNow on Nov 9, 2003

Oh, the thing about Claudia saying she was married but not actually being married?  Actually I might be wrong about that.  It was an assumption I made since she seemed to get single so fast, but when I talked to my wife about it (after I made my engagement announcement on this board), she says she thinks Claudia WAS married and got divorced.  Remember Claudia is a lawyer so it is possible she knows how to expedite something like that.  I have to say that I honestly don't know if Claudia was married or not and again, perhaps I shouldn't have even discussed it here on the board, but I figured if I posted she was engaged, other guys like me who had been told she was married, would bring the question up so I just handled it with what I believed to be correct information based on my own conclusions.  I have actually never discussed this subject with Claudia herself.

John, I think this falls into the category of it not really being our business.  It had nothing to do with how Claudia performed her job at LAI.  As far as I saw, Claudia always worked her tail off trying to provide good service to the clients of LAI and that is all that really matters.  Whether she was or was not married really has nothing to do with her job at LAI and I wish now I had not brought up the subject of Claudia getting engaged because I think highly of both her and LAI and I would hate to think that my idle chatter might reflect badly on either.

[LatinIntro]

... in response to Re: Re: Re: LAI and writing before going, posted by HeyNow on Nov 5, 2003

Which post is that?

[pablo]

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Re: LAI and writing before g..., posted by LatinIntro on Nov 6, 2003


HeyNow is refering to this post: http://www.planet-love.com/wwwboard/latin/archives/display.php?archive=000156&id=49308