Cali, Colombia- The Cleavage capital

[mar33]

... in response to Re: I think you are on to something., posted by beenthere on Oct 28, 2003

I thought I read Calipro had been married 3x. The first to an AW stripper. The 2nd to the Calena with the nudie website(Who could not tell him why she left),and the 3rd(yep, the one with the boyfriend who faked love for a green card) to a 19 year old who was very sexually knowledgeable.
  Perhaps, he is not looking to have a longtime marriage or raising kids like many of us here are. Maybe he just wants to have fun for a few years and move on to the next one. A use-use situation. But then, why is he marrying them anyway if that is the case?
  But for a guy looking long-term, there is more to a relationship than a just a flighty woman who changes her mind quickly on what she wants from day to day.
  Calipro get s the impression a man who does not date 9's and 10's is a loser. He forgets there is more to a human being than just looks. Many men look in foreign countries because we feel many AW(not all) think most of us may not be Brad Pitt ot Bill Gates so therefore they are mostly not inclined to get to know the person, but rather judge us on superficial things. I wonder why does not want to compete with AM and latinos for hot latinas on U.S. ground?If he is that confident of his ability with the ladies.
  I looked to find a woman who of course was attractive to me, had a good heart, was loving, intelligent, had the same goals and dreams I did, and who loved me without a doubt.
  Could I have gotten a "hotter" babe? Sure I could have. I am young and fairly good looking. I have dated many women who my friends think are hot, but I really did not feel the love coming from these women,mainly one sided. The way my fiance makes me feels show me I have never known true love. To me that is all I need. I could not be happier or more in love.
  By the way, my interest initially were latinas. But now I am engaged to a Filipina. No she is not built like a boy as Calipro thinks. She has a C- cup chest,and honestly when I first met her I thought she looked more latin than anything else.
  Looks fade anyway, but charecter stays true.
   Mark33

[Calipro]

... in response to Re: Re: I think you are on to something., posted by mar33 on Oct 28, 2003

I don't think guys that don't go out with 9 and 10s are losers. But, if you are really looking for a 4 or 5, there are plenty around here in the good old U.S.A. that would make terricfic wives.

I have an idea. If you are not set in your religious ways, Why not become Mormon? Mormon women are very devoted and I haven't met one that wasn't interested in marriage.

[HeyNow]

... in response to Re: Re: Re: I think you are on to someth..., posted by Calipro on Oct 28, 2003

I don't agree with the doctrine but, I think the belief is they can't go to heaven unless they are married.  This might explain the motivation.  If there are any mormons out there please correct me if I am wrong.  Also, I am not trying to step on your religion.

[mar33]

... in response to I think you are on to something., posted by Calipro on Oct 27, 2003

Calipro,
Since you seem such the experts on latinas,and you also speak Spanish,why not get a hot latina already in the U.S.? There are plenty here and more coming everyday. I also see plenty of plain looking latin men with those hot women.So why nottake those girls away?It puzzles me that a guy with such confidence only seems confident with very young latinas living outside the U.S. and are easy to impress.
  By the way, nothing wrong with a woman over 30 or one with kids. I would rather have a pretty late 20's early 30's lifetime partner, than one whose expiration date is 2 years or till something better comes along. You have been married 3x at 40. I have not yet married, and when I do it I want it to be forever. I do not want to raise my future children in 2 seperate households, or see them only on weekends.
  BeenThere posted a question a while back asking anyone who married a hot 9 or 10 much younger woman if they had any success long term. No one answered.
  I think Past high school, a man should judge a woman more than by how many men want her.
 I know women who pass up great guys who would treat them like gold . They only want the guy every  girl wants, no matter how unpredictable he may be.  That type of action does not show  confident,rather the opposite.

[Calipro]

... in response to Re: I think you are on to something., posted by mar33 on Oct 28, 2003

It is not my goal to steal anybody's woman away. I think I have said it before, I'm not really an american women basher. I enjoy their company (latin or gringa) for what it is worth. I have even had close gringa friends tell me that I should seek some kind of therapy so I could settle down with a nice gringa instead of a Colombiana. If one day I can't afford to travel to Colombia 2-3 times a year then I will seek out therapy because then I really will need it. I have a strong preference for colombian women and I'm not sure I can explain in words why that is. So I will just say they make me feel very, very good. If I could find a women here that could make feel the same way I probably wouldn't go to Colombia as often. Of course it is all psychological everything is. Therapy or Travel, I choose travel.

My advice to you is: if you don't ever want to go through a divorce, move to a country with a culture that does not promote divorce as a solution to marital problems. Also it doesn't hurt if you live in a country where divorce can cause serious finacial consequences for the women involved.

[beenthere]

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Cali, Colombia- The Cleavage..., posted by Calipro on Oct 26, 2003

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No Calipro, if I remember correctly when you posted earlier this year the story of your break-up with Calena wife #2 (or was it #3 it's hard to keep track) you mentioned something similar regarding hiring a hitman to take care of your ex's boyfriend.  Evidently this fellow intimidated you with threats, REMEMBER??  I'm not sure if you are even in touch with reality.  I think you post so much bulls**t on this forum that it's hard to keep up.  Maybe you should review your posts in the archives from time to time so you can remember.

[Calipro]

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Re: Cali, Colombia- The Clea..., posted by beenthere on Oct 27, 2003

I'll leave the archive review for you. It was Calena wife #2 ad her ex-boyfriend was threatening me daily at my home and place of business. So I sent a couple of guys over to his house to return the favor. They were not professional hitmen (and I never used the term hitman) and it was never my intention to have him killed. Basicly, I just wanted to know what he was made of and as it turned out not much.

See, I have values!!

Don't let your imagination run wild.

[beenthere]

... in response to I remember., posted by Calipro on Oct 27, 2003

Speaking of wild imaginations..............you ACTUALLY believed that some young Caleno punk was going to send some of his boys to your house or your work place and have you taken care of???  Please Calipro..........I can just picture Calipro now, in the final scene in Scarface........Calipro is Tony Montana......holed up in his house, with Colombian hit men spraying bullets all over his house......"Say hello to my little friend" Calipro shouts as he returns fire to his would be assassins.  For Tony Montana it was over hundreds of millions of dollars in cocaine, for Calipro it was for a poor Calena girl.  Who's the FOOL???

[Calipro]

... in response to Re: I remember., posted by beenthere on Oct 27, 2003

You are.

My ex-cali wife was 19 at the time. Her boyfriend was a 33 year old clombian business man. I wouldn't exactly caracterize him as a punk.

I normally take death threats with a grain of salt but believe me this guy was convincing. I won't go into it but he had demands that he wanted met and I wasn't about to comply. Then I sent the pictures of my wife and me to everybody and his brother. At this point if I were him, I would have wanted to kill me. So why wouldn't I believe he would?

[beenthere]

... in response to Re: Re: I remember., posted by Calipro on Oct 27, 2003

If you didn't know Calipro, punks come in all ages, I've known 33 year old punks & 60 year old punks.  To think that he had the juice to send people to kill you over a young girl, who was your wife at the time, is totally absurd.

[Calipro]

... in response to Re: Re: Re: I remember., posted by beenthere on Oct 27, 2003

was one of the best pieces of a** I have ever had and it seems her ex-boyfriend thought the same thing.
Nobody ever said I was a gracious loser. I kind of follow a scorched earth policy in matters like this. I didn't end up with her but either did he. I made sure of that. More than one reason to send the gun packen punks to his house instead of him sending them to mine.

[beenthere]

... in response to At the time my wife....., posted by Calipro on Oct 27, 2003

so you did hire some "gun packen punks" to go to his house.  Let me ask you a question............what if the scene would have turned ugly??  What if your wife's boyfriend had a gun also, and his friends??  What if someone would have been killed in a shootout??  It happens everyday in Cali.  How would you have felt?? Not to mention maybe being arrested if they found out you hired the guys.  Don't you think it was a very reckless thing to do, not to mention stupid???  Remember you're CALIPRO, the pro of Cali.  Why would you hire some guys to scare your wife's boyfriend?  (your wife's boyfriend???)It seems to me a PRO would have found out about the boyfriend before he married the girl.  Also what did this guy have that you didn't have???  What was it about you that made her not want to leave her boyfriend and come live with you in the states.  Besides their performance in bed, what criteria must a woman meet before she becomes MRS. CALIPRO?  When you found out that your wife had a boyfriend why didn't you just end it right there??  Why fight with her boyfriend??  Remember you're CALIPRO and you can get any young Calena that you want.
I hope these questions aren't too personal, but the answers could help any CALIPRO wannabes out there.  (I know there are a few).

[Calipro]

... in response to Re: At the time my wife....., posted by beenthere on Oct 28, 2003

As far as the sending the punks to the guys house, I had more than one reason and I don't really want to get into the whole story (It is way to long). But, I will tell that he not only threaten my life but the life of my family as well. He even had my father's home address in Conneticut believe it or not. The bottom line is I had to do something and walking away with my tail between my legs wasn't something I could live with.

It appears that the boyfriend wasn't in my wife's life when we got married. I asked her about it and I asked her ex-boyfriend about it. It is had to get and exact date but it was after we were married. He claims he was always in her life  (go figure) but I could never get answer as to where he was when I lived in her house for two weeks after we got married or where he was when we spent a week in Bogota together.

Unlike most guys that call you up and say they are going to kill you, this guy would talk for up to thirty minutes a day. It was crazy. It was like he was trying to convince me to do what he wanted so he wouldn't have to kill me. Mainly he wanted me to cancel her visa which I later did but not because he wanted me to.

To answer your question " What did this guy have that I didn't have?" basicly a long history with her.

I thought we already went over this but she was coming here to live with me in the states. She was basicly telling her boyfriend good by that's how all this crap got started. Her family couldn't stand this guy but they were all to scared of him to tell me where he lived. I can't tell you how embarassed her family was when they found out she was still involved with this guy after we were married. I visted her mother when I was in Cali last and her mother cried so hard she almost made me cry. It is a sad story of what can happen when a young women makes bad choices. Trust me when I say I still feel more sorry for her than she feels sorry for herself. She really has no idea what she lost.

"When you found out that your wife had a boyfriend why didn't you just end it right there??"

First of all I was getting the phone calls from hell from her boyfriend and I was asking her "who is this guy that is claiming to be your boyfriend?" she denies even knowing him then she admitts that he is some crazy ex-boyfriend that is still bothering her. Then I hacked into her e-mail account and found the Dear, John letter she sent him.
I finally gave her a last chance to clear this thing up. I told her she had to tell me where he lived and where he worked. Because there was no way I was going to bring her here with this guy knowing where we would be living and I didn't know a thing about him. Not to mention the fact at this point the guy was calling me 2 -3 times a day to threatening to kill me.

She told me that he called her all the time to threaten her to (Can you really love someone that threatens you?). Anyway for what ever reason (love or fear) she wouldn't cough this guy up and by the time I finall found him, she had killed all the feelings I had for her by protecting this guy.

Oh, "Why did I fight the boyfriend when I could have any caleña I wanted?" Because I really wanted that one! That's why I married her in the first place.

Since you asked: My criteria for a wife is as follows.
1. Stunning Beauty.
2. Good in Bed (Sexual Chemistry)
3. Respect (faithfull)
4. True love (commitment)

I know some guys won't agree with the order but let my ask you this: What good is a ugly wife that is bad in bed and rats you out and stabs you in the back even if she loves you? Well, if she really loves you, she'll say it's all for your own good. But, really I would rather have the first three and the true love is nice but optional.

I have seen relationships with no beauty, no sex and no respect but they have true love (I guess) why else would they be together (and they have been together 50 years or more)? It is an exercise in misery.

[HeyNow]

... in response to To many questions to little time., posted by Calipro on Oct 28, 2003

Calipro, As always you can be trusted to put things in the correct perspective.  I think your "list" is downright truthful.  The "looks" are the most important aspect and the most difficult to achieve.  Once this is accomplished then you can go on to the rest of the list.  IMHO I think there are too many guys on this forum that try to minimize looks.  If I wasn't looking for an attractive woman then, I would not have to get on the plane.  
  You asked "Why are they together?"  There are a lot of reasons but, I don't think love is one of them.

[beenthere]

... in response to To many questions to little time., posted by Calipro on Oct 28, 2003

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Seems to me , from your history, you definitely have the order wrong.  Calena #1 definitely didn't respect you, had no TRUE love for you, Calena #2 the same.
If you believe that #2's boyfriend wasn't in her life when you married her, then you'll believe anything.