New wife in USA, now what?

[CaliAdvisor]

... in response to What???, posted by Calipro on Oct 16, 2003

Of course I snag em away from Colombianos too. But I have a rule, I don't mess around with Colombianas who are married to Colombians. That is just a safey concern, and a pretty obvious one at that. If you havent learned it yet, maybe you aint such a pro. Of course, maybe the boyfriends of the Strata 2 girls you date arent that much of a threat. But when you start getting up to the strata 6 girls who have rich and powerful boyfriends, who already have paid for their implants, you had better be careful buddy. The difference is, I dont go slumming to get girls.

And the ones that I have been with who were married to Gringos have been great looking too. Probably some of the same trophy wives that you have had might have been mine too.

[lswote]

... in response to Re: What???, posted by CaliAdvisor on Oct 17, 2003

I submit the following evidence to support my claim that CaliAdvisor is Aaron.  In the previous post CaliAdvisor said "But when you start getting up to the strata 6 girls who have rich and powerful boyfriends, who already have paid for their implants, you had better be careful buddy."  Aaron had a thing about strata too.  So I did a search for "strata 6" in the archives.  Found this post, first one to actually use the term "strata 6" as opposed to just containing the words strata and 6.  It is by Aaron:
http://www.planet-love.com/wwwboard/search/searchdisplay.php?page=latin&archive=000145&id=45051&bold[]=strata&bold[]=6

where Aaron said "I just got off the telephone this morning with a good Colombian female friend who is currently there in Colombia ... She's way above strata 6 in terms of housing".

In the same thread Aaron spoke about himself in this post:
http://www.planet-love.com/wwwboard/latin/archives/display.php?archive=000145&id=45071

He labeled the post "Pete, I'd be strata 15, but that's another story."

Doesn't conclusively prove anything but adds one more piece of evidence.

[Calipro]

... in response to I submit the following evidence, posted by lswote on Oct 17, 2003

so what! I don't think Patric wanted to ban him in the first place. The only reason he banned him was because half the posts on the board were either complaining about him or attacking him.

Quit trying to prove its him because everybody already knows it's him including Patric.

[lswote]

... in response to It's Aaron but...., posted by Calipro on Oct 18, 2003

Hmmm good point Calipro, LOL.

[Calipro]

... in response to Re: What???, posted by CaliAdvisor on Oct 17, 2003

I'm driving to Nogales, Mexico to party with the strata "0" girls :-o I'll be there in two and a half hours so I'll talk to you chumps later.

It sure ain't Cali but what the hell, Calipro

[lswote]

... in response to Re: What???, posted by CaliAdvisor on Oct 17, 2003

But Aaron, you are strata 15, what are you doing slumming with these Strata 6 girls?

[beenthere]

... in response to What???, posted by Calipro on Oct 16, 2003

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Calipro,
Better looking Calenas are very easy for you to snag, I'll give you that.  You are the "pro" when it comes to meeting the more attractive ones.   But do you have what it takes to keep them???  History seems to say no.  First Calena wife left you with no explanation.  Second Calena wife wouldn't leave her boyfriend for you.  I'm very curious as to what # 3 will bring.  Maybe the bottom of the barrell in the long run might not be a bad idea for you either.  At least you'll have a women who is committed to you, who'll NEVER leave you.  As a whole the 9's and 10's are harder to please, the models have a spoiled life-style there, much harder to please when they're here.  Not every man has the financial capability to take care of these women when they're here.  Not many gringos have the looks, charm, or personality to attract such women.  So is it wrong that some americans go for the bottom of the barrell??  If they are happy, you shouldn't judge.  I've been to Colombia alot, as you well know, but I've only met a few gringos who are going for marriage #3 with a Calena.
In my experience in Colombia I've noticed that many of the failed relationships have one factor in common, that is, men seem to try to attract women who are out of their league, then they can't understand why the women leave them or maintain boyfriends behind their back.  Or they don't have the financial means to take care of them when they're here, and the women become very disappointed when they get here and their "prince charming" doesn't have a pot to piss in.
You see guys, beautiful women in Cali are a dime a dozen.  Models in Cali are a dime a dozen.  All are very easy to meet if you're half-way decent looking, can speak some spanish, and have a good personality.  But, show me a man who can have a successful relationship (long-term) with one, or ANY calena for that matter, and I'll show you a real "PRO".  In a few short weeks, any decent guy as I described above can fill a beautiful naive Calena with many wonderful thoughts and promises, as a whole these women are easy to impress, but one day the real truth comes out, and if the guy can't deliver, these women are gone, or return to their boyfriends.  Of course the gringo can't understand why.
I'll be in Cali the time you're there Calipro, do want to show me the ropes???  You and I both know that's not possible.  For all of you other guys, go with your heart, but be smart.  You'll know if the woman is 100% crazy for you.  Don't go over your head in the looks department, no matter what anyone says. Don't let a guy like Calipro put you down just because you're not running with the type of women he is.  There is alot to be said for a woman who loves and adores you with all of their heart, and to have that, with no doubts, is a beautiful thing and will give you a lifetime of happiness.

[DallasSteve2]

... in response to Re: What???, posted by beenthere on Oct 17, 2003

BeenThere

That's a wise post.

Steve

[HeyNow]

... in response to Re: What???, posted by beenthere on Oct 17, 2003

Ben There,
 This post makes me a little curious.  You mentioned that the Cali beautiful women are a "dime a dozen" and they are "easy to impress".  I have ben to Cali (beenthere?).  I am not sure I aggree.  I would agree with Calipro's statement that there might be 5 or 6 in an agency he would be interested in.  He posted photos of the 5 or 6 so, we know he actually met these "beautiful Cali women".  I think the beautiful cali women aren't too eager to leave Colombia (they can get whatever they need in Colombia).  Well, that is my experience.  Unless, of course they have 1-3 children then it is a different story entirely.  I think wizard posted his Cali experience.  If I remember correctly (Mark, correct me if this quote is incorrect).  "There are usually two types of single women in Cali: Attractive women with kids and unattractive women without kids".  
  Okay, back to my curious question.  Ben there, you seem like a guy who could get what he wants but, why have you beenthere 27 times?  Keep in mind, I am not trying to slam you.  I am curious and got reeeeel curious after your "Beautiful Cali women are plentiful" post.

[lswote]

... in response to Re: Re: What???, posted by HeyNow on Oct 17, 2003

I don't think beenthere has time to answer a sincere question.  He is too busy talking about how to block phones calls from women to your room while you are with another woman trying to convince her you are a nice caring guy looking for a lifemate.

[beenthere]

... in response to Re: Re: Re: What???, posted by lswote on Oct 17, 2003

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Iswote,
This a very typical post from you and your cohorts on this board.  You see guys, for whatever reason, some of these guys LOVE to provoke some people into confrontations, then they are the first to cry when the person they attack fights back.  Not sure why you want to pick a fight with me, but my advice to you would be to spend a little more time with your wife, with your job, and a little less time provoking people on the internet.

[lswote]

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Re: What???, posted by beenthere on Oct 17, 2003

Don't know if you think I cry if a person fights back.  I certainly try to bring notice to guys that I think should be banned, such as CaliAdvisor who I am positive is a formerly banned poster, and bigb, who is just an idiot, but I don't have a problem with people giving as good as they get.  I might be wrong about you, and perhaps I shouldn't have jumped in.  But for all Calipro's faults, I have begrudging respect for the fact that he is so upfront about his approach to Latin women.  It wouldn't be my approach, and I was even a little offended when he posted pictures of those women a few months back, but he seems straight up and he has won my respect.  You attacked him, when you really hadn't been attacked by him (at least not in this post) and it just ticked me off a bit.  I understand you have a bit of a feud running with him and perhaps I shouldn't have stepped into it.

[beenthere]

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: What???, posted by lswote on Oct 17, 2003

I accept your apology.

[beenthere]

... in response to Re: Re: What???, posted by HeyNow on Oct 17, 2003

HeyNow,
I've never had to rely on agencies to meet women, they are an option, but the majority of the women that I've dated (including my ex-wife) I met on my own, without the help of an agency.  I will reiterate, beautiful women in Cali do come a dime a dozen.  I'm not sure the places you have frequented, but they are there.  I'm sure that many of the beautiful ones would leave if they had the right man to offer them a good life-style here in the states.  The only problem is not that many gringos that go down there (that I've seen) can give them what they need.  One of my ex-girlfriends is a model and a TV personality.  She wants out of Colombia, in fact she's in Spain now interviewing for jobs. I really am not attracted to women who are "eager" to leave Colombia, I'm more interested in a woman who wants me for who I am, no matter if I live in the US, Colombia, or the South Pole.
As far as my many trips to Colombia, well I am one who is not going to make the same mistake twice.  I prefer to REALLY get to know a woman.  I'm not going to make a 2 week trip to Colombia, then decide to get married a month later.  I'm not desperate, I'm going to invest in many trips and get to know the lady before I make a committment again.  Plus I have many friends there that I enjoy visiting, I love the culture, the music, the food.
As far as posting pictures, I don't need to do it to prove that there are beautiful women in Cali, or to prove that I've been with beautiful women.  I'm not participating in this forum to impress people.  
HeyNow, I have a question for you:  Are you more impressed with a man who takes his time in relationships, learns from his mistakes, or are you more impressed with a man who's been married 2 or 3 times, rushes into relationships, only to fail horribly again and again??
If I have to go to Colombia 50 times so be it, as long as I have the means to do it.  I ALWAYS have a great time in Colombia, in fact I just got back Monday from a 10 day trip there.  Everytime I come back I know a little more about myself, what I'm looking for, not to mention the new friends I've made and the possibilities I've encountered.
I hope that answers your question.  BTW I'm not afraid of being slammed, remember I've been called an idiot, weasel, low class, poor slob, and have been accused of being a pedophile on this board, so I welcome any slams with open arms.  Take Care!

[HeyNow]

... in response to Re: Re: Re: What???, posted by beenthere on Oct 17, 2003

Thanks for the reply Ben there,
 Ben, there are some things I understand and a lot more I am not sure about.  First off, I haven't been there twenty seven times and my Spanish is somewhat lousy.  On a couple occasions I have met girls that insisted I speak spanish and this stretched my Spanish ability pretty far.  I guess I should concentrate on learning more.  Well, enough of that. There has been considerable debate of using agencys vs. non-agencys.  I agree that most of the agency women want to leave Colombia.  I am not convinced that most Colombian women want to leave.  This applies to the beautiful Cali women (like the ones walking around Chip-Chapi).  Also, I am not convinced they ALL are crazy about gringos.  I believe it is a matter of taste.  Some of these Colombian  woman think gringos are the cutest guys they have ever seen.  It's just a matter of taste.  Getting back to the "wanting to leave" factor.  I am sure the majority of women with 1-3 children want to leave.  It is mighty tough for them to get a husband in Colombia. And it dosen't really matter how good looking they are.  With your experience I am suprised you didn't address this in your answer.  The agencys know this and will always promote the ones with children.  Okay, now for my opinion.  It seems from my limited Colombian experience to actually marry a young obviously attractive Colombian woman without children (25-35) is more than meets the eye (with or without an agency). Hence, 27+ visits in your case and divorce in Calipro's case.  Another opinion:  The agencys aren't too crazy about anyone getting married to an obviously attractive young (25-35) Colombian woman member.  They are very hard to replace.

HeyNow just my tooo cents!