Newbie Question-Perhaps Naive

[Michael B]

... in response to catch 22, posted by Ralph on Oct 7, 2003

He's had one (or is it two?) of them so far, so the strategy must work.

[Ralph]

... in response to Re: Newbie Question-Perhaps Naive, posted by zack on Oct 4, 2003

On the one hand we have latinas tired of dealing with machista latinos that think it is fine to have 5 kids with different women while married. OTOH, we have "pros" telling us we should be more like Colombian men? Pretty silly. The last people I want to emulate are these guys.

So the two main reasons we hear for latinas wanting a gringo are:

1- the fact that we are more likely to be better, more faithful husbands.

2-we have the means to provide better, and provide more material things, plus a better future.

3- would be  residency, but we usually downplay that one

So CaliPro suggests we stop being the men the latinas think we are. We should be more like Colombians. Not marry women that already have kids etc.

That will leave us with materialistic greencard sharks. yep, that is a great strategy.

[Starman]

... in response to Re: Newbie Question-Perhaps Naive, posted by zack on Oct 4, 2003


Exactly my experience...my fiancee's father has also fathered children outside of his marriage and his wife still lives with him because of the alternative. One of my fiancee's uncles has over 30 children!

Typically the men are unfaithful, extremely jealous, abusive, lazy, etc. But, interestingly, they also has many good attributes as well. I love her father and uncles, and I got along wonderfully with other men there. Very friendly, warm, good since of humor, etc. They just normally do not make good husbands.

Tim.

[zack]

... in response to Re: Re: Newbie Question-Perhaps Naive, posted by Starman on Oct 6, 2003

Agreed. I get along with my novia's father fine- very friendly, warm, etc. Just not a good husband.

30 children??  My God. And I thought I was born with an overdose of testosterone.

Zack

[Calipro]

... in response to Newbie Question-Perhaps Naive, posted by Zorrowins on Oct 3, 2003

You say you are 55. Well you should be able to get a pretty nice looking 35 year women with a kid. No problem.
Why? Because any colombian guy with any means at any age would never marry a women 35 years old with another guys kid. If this sounds good to you, get on the plane now because it is easily attenable. Why? Because what you want colombian guys don't want. I am here to tell you the hard cold facts. A colombian guy 55 years of age with money would rarely ever consider marrying a 35 year old women with another guys kid no matter how beautiful the women was. Maybe if she was a super model they would pay the rent on her apartment and thats a big maybe.

But you have to remember you are going to bring her back here. Eventhough she should kiss your butt every day of her life for having married her when colombian guys wouldn't, she won't. Why? Because her value will have increased considerably the moment she arrives here. Why? Because she will be surrounded by sex starved american guys that would like nothing better than to take your some what attractive wife with somebody elses child off your hands. What a pathetic situation we have created for ourselves. We should all (as men) take a good look at colombian men and learn a little something. If guys stopped marrying other guys ex-wifes with children women wouldn't be divorcing their husbands near as much.

Don't buy the bull about the women that will marry you for a green card. Sure they are around. But, if you want to and can compete head to head with colombian guys for the most beautiful women colombia has to offer better drop me a line. So I can introduce you to some drop dead beautiful women that will turn their noses up to any american that doesn't meet her standards. Why? Because even they don't know what their little asses are worth in the states.

It's late and I just got back from celebrating a good friends birthday so this maybe a little to straight forward to handle. But don't let the negative aspects of searching for a wife down south turn you away. There is a reason why we all go down there and it's a good one. I hope you can find it to.

Calipro

[HeyNow]

... in response to I'll give you the low down., posted by Calipro on Oct 4, 2003

Calipro you are right on target.  No Colombian man will marry a Colombian woman with kids.  I have a friend that married a Cali girl with two kids and he told me the same thing.  He is happily married and actually wanted to marry a Colombian woman with at least two young children.  Why? he said he loves children and has a young son.  Nonetheless,
I have noticed there are very few men here that married a woman without kids.  I think the agencies will try to vigourously promote the women with children.  I believe the reason is Colombian patriotism and they aren't to crazy about gringos marrying the extremely attractive young Colombians with no kids.  It seems all the worst horror stories are with women with children.  "With kids" "Without kids"  worlds apart.

[cancunhound]

... in response to Newbie Question-Perhaps Naive, posted by Zorrowins on Oct 3, 2003

Why would most Mexicans risk everything to sneak across the border to gain entry into the US?  It's very simple - as long as there are plentiful jobs paying $7/hour in the US, which there are - compared to 50 cents in Mexico or 20 cents in Asia - they will come.

PS "I'm new to the board, but have been montoring it for months" creates a troll alert, especially with responses like senge's

[jim c]

... in response to Re: Newbie Question-Perhaps Naive, posted by cancunhound on Oct 4, 2003

I love zorro wins for a handle

[jim c]

... in response to Re: Newbie Question-Perhaps Naive, posted by cancunhound on Oct 4, 2003

I love zorro wins for a handle

[Patrick]

... in response to Newbie Question-Perhaps Naive, posted by Zorrowins on Oct 3, 2003

I'd suggest not looking for a much younger extremely attractive woman.  Instead look for an attractive woman of reasonable age who you've developed a relationship over considerable time. Someone who's shares common interests, goals, spirituality, and has a similar level of life experience.  Look for character.  You'll be way ahead of the pack who's mentality is "Why should I travel South to marry a woman I only as attractive as I could get here?"  Anyone who does this just to get a nice piece of arm candy is being foolish IMHO.

I did it because I think that in general you're more likely to find a woman who shares conservative values with you and has a more traditional image of marriage.  I married a woman who's now 41 (I'm 44).  Best (romantic) decision I ever made.

[senge]

... in response to Damn good question, posted by Patrick on Oct 4, 2003

You are basically saying that the main priority for any American man in trying to find a foreign bride is to find someone with a good character (which you cannot determine in only a few weeks), similiar interest (which you cannot determine without spending a significant amout of time with her), and and similiar goals (which is highly unlikely if she is 20 years younger than you).  

This, as opposed to flying down South and joining an agency where women are hearded in front of you like cattle, and you go on mass dates with women 15-20 years younger than you, who you really know nothing about other than how they look, and end up marrying one of them 2 weeks later.  

Well, I agree with you 100%.  I would like to know who else agrees with this...or disagrees?

[DallasSteve2]

... in response to So Patrick..., posted by senge on Oct 4, 2003

Your "cattle call" image of the Colombian agencies is not far from the truth.  The women have their free will, but the men are holding some powerful cards and as a consequence get treated with far more affection than they probably deserve.  But it's a lot of fun.

Meanwhile, it reminds me of the current Telemundo TV show, La Cenicienta where one woman is dating, kissing, and who-knows-what-else with 5 or 10 men that are chasing only her.  Not any different than what we are doing in the agencies but she and her family seem to think that it is completely normal.  If you understand Spanish, it is very educational.

And this week her beautiful, best friend started making passes at some of the guys just to make the show more scandalous.

Steve

[cancunhound]

... in response to La Cenicienta Revisited, posted by DallasSteve2 on Oct 4, 2003

I tried to get my crew to watch it but Univision programs rule so it seems (hint guys - you must have 2 TVs with Colombianas in the household).  I tried to watch the 1st episode and the gringo beach dude somehow was in the hunt.  Steve - turn off those damn soaps - it's football time!  And Baylor beat Colorado today!  That probably means my raiders will be upset by A&M tonight, sh%t!

[DallasSteve2]

... in response to Is the Gringo still in the hunt?, posted by cancunhound on Oct 4, 2003

Sorry guys, there was one gringo in the bunch but he was eliminated.  To me he looked a little goofy.  Not a great representative for us.  And he didn't show good judgment.  On his first date with her he brought an art book of photos of naked people.  She is somewhat conservative and was turned off by the book.  Not a good choice for an icebreaker on a first date.

My favorite was the oldest guy.  He was a Latino television newscaster.  (A talking head)  He was 20 years older than her (early 40s) and a handsome man.  He probably had more class than the rest.  When he saw she was not responding to him he withdrew from the competition before she could eliminate him.  Classy move in my opinion.

Steve

[cancunhound]

... in response to So Patrick..., posted by senge on Oct 4, 2003

There's a huge difference between visiting an agency and going on one of those "tours".  Just buy your plane ticket and go - then give us an Aaron report.  Read the former posts - you don't even need to join an agency - most accept walkups.