What about looks ?

[Starman]

... in response to Re: Re: Not the point, posted by Cali vet on Sep 16, 2003

CV,

If that's the case why are you living in Cali? Or is this a fishing expedition?

Every women is different, and while living in the US is the biggest priority for some women, certainly not all are that way.

1st priority for my Novia is a faithful, hardworking man that respects his wife and puts the family first. Every women I met in Venezuela had the same things to say about Venezuelan men; they were lazy, unfaithful, abusive, controlling, excessively jealous, etc.

From my experience, most of the men I met were very friendly, good company and very helpful. But when it came to women, they said that every man should have 7 women...one for each day.

My novia's father has an ongoing affair with a 25 year old and has a child with her. He is a good man, I really like him, but I think that his affair is destructive to the family in many ways.  His wife kicked him out of the bedroom and he now sleeps on a hammock in the back of the house. Other than that he is a good husband and father.

If anyone does not believe that most of the latin men are that way, I'd say they have never seen it first hand. Of course, not all are that way, but most of the good ones are not available. The women are certainly not angels, its just that they are the ones who are dominated my the men.

Next, would be physical attraction. She says that most of the men in her town are ugly. Of course, beauty is in the eye of the beholder...she is just not attracted to them.

Coming to the US for her is just icing on the cake. She just cannot find the life she wants in her own country. If I could get a decent paying job in Venezuela, she would be happy, but she and her son would have better opportunities in the US.

Tim.

[Cali vet]

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Not the point, posted by Starman on Sep 16, 2003

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[Cali vet]

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Not the point, posted by Starman on Sep 16, 2003

like your novia's father's style and I want to be like him only I won't tolerate a hammock.

[Ralph]

... in response to Re: Re: Not the point, posted by Cali vet on Sep 16, 2003

That is why I am the one not impressed by photos of guys and their "conquests".  So, if a guy is surrounded by women that are NOT smiling, he has less shot than a fox terrier?

If the woman cringing in every photo, find another one, or start coming your hair like a terrier!

I am doing like you are right now. I live in her country, but I doubt it will be permanent. We live above a Colmado in an apartment that costs 120 bucks per month, little furniture, but DSL, computers and so forth. I doubt she is after my vast fortune;-)

She also has a sis in CT. The sis has not seen her 4 year old son in 3 years, because the husband left the 1 year old son in the DR when he brought his wife up. When I first met my novia she wanted NO part of going to the states. I think she knows me better by now and knows I would never want her to be apart from her son, so she is most likely much more receptive now.

[Calipro]

... in response to Not the point, posted by Ralph on Sep 16, 2003

Let me get this straight. If the women isn't smiling and looking comfortable in the picture then she doesn't really like the guy and if she is smiling and hugging the guy she must really be in love with him. Right?

I was just looking at some pictures from my last trip and the women that I thought liked me the most aren't smiling all that much in the photos. Ralph, how about I send you the photos and then you can tell me which women like me the most.

Don't laugh guys. He is probably better than the fortune teller I'm using now!

[cassius]

... in response to And the point is?, posted by Calipro on Sep 16, 2003

good sense of humor like always, cali-pro.

[lswote]

... in response to Not the point, posted by Ralph on Sep 16, 2003

Once again I think you are reading WAY too much into this picture.  I agree that the woman looks uncomfortable, but it might have nothing to do with the guy she is with.  She might be someone who hates having their picture taken (I know I sure do) and the guy might be trying to loosen her up for the picture by exhibiting a little outrageous behavior.

I think I spoiled everyone of my wedding photos despite the fact that my wife shined like a beautiful butterfly because I hate getting my picture taken and unless I consciously smile more than is natural for me I look like a real sourpuss and very unhappy.  But I am not unhappy, I just am not photogenic and the same is true for other people.

Here is perhaps the only picture I know of that shows someone unhappy with someone else.  It is a picture of me and my ex-wife and kids back in the mid-90s.  My oldest daughter absolutely detested me at the time and I think it shows in this picture but perhaps only to me.  
http://www.geocities.com/lswote/family1.jpg

It is very hard to read into pictures why someone is unhappy and I think you are being unjust deciding if a woman is happy or unhappy just because of her date at the time.

[Ralph]

... in response to Re: Not the point, posted by lswote on Sep 16, 2003

In your pics your face says, you are not crazy about taking pictures, but your body language does not say you don't want to be with your wife. In your family pic, the second oldest daughter looked even more "pissed".

I am not saying to base one's decision soley on photos, but if you take a bunch, it will give a decent indication.

My ex wife HATED taking pics. She never wanted me to take any.
I took a TON. She looked happier in pics with me than when I snapped some of her solo. Many times she would be looking at me rather than the camera etc. her body language, said she adored me. Anybody that saw us together said the same thing. Things didn't work out, but not for lack of love on both sides.

I'll post pics here of my current novia and me.

http://community.webshots.com/photo/43566496/43566717oSzocV

http://community.webshots.com/photo/43566496/43566637DAdZkh

http://community.webshots.com/photo/43566496/43566556emruWH

http://community.webshots.com/photo/43566496/43585493seNkZa

http://community.webshots.com/photo/43566496/90650839POpiXk

http://community.webshots.com/photo/43566496/90651082BKRXZF

http://community.webshots.com/photo/43566496/90651691zoRXwS

I'll try and dig an post pics of my ex. There are tons where you can tell she hates taking pics, but you can also tell she adored me. Not liking to take pics and not looking like you want to be with someone are actually quite different. You can't always tell from one photo, but if you take a TON, it is much easier. Still you would never base your decision soley on pics.

[beenthere]

... in response to difference, posted by Ralph on Sep 16, 2003

Ralph,
Just wanted to compliment you on your novia. She's very beautiful and looks very happy with you.
Good Luck!!!

[Bueller]

... in response to difference, posted by Ralph on Sep 16, 2003

...a Presidente in each hand. :-)

[Ralph]

... in response to Yep, that's Ralph..., posted by Bueller on Sep 16, 2003

One of them was hers!!! I just held it for the picture.
Of course trying to find a picture of me in the DR without a Presidente in my hand or on the table in front of me would be VERY hard!

Not really. Since the first bunch of trips I made down there were really "vacation", we'd go out to eat, dance, drink and party pretty much every night.

Once we moved in together she would make sure to have Presidentes in the fridge. Then she saw that I would never dirnk any of them. I never drink at home. Maybe one night if we don't feel like going out on a friday or saturday but the whole neghborhood is downstairs at the Colmado, blasting music, playing dominoes and drinking, we'll get a few "grandes" sit on the balcany and have a few beers etc.

I think she thought I drank every day, like I did when I was on vacation! No way. When she sees me go 2-3 weeks without a sip, she thinks maybe I am sick or something;-)