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Author Topic: cartagena day 3  (Read 1555 times)
jim c
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« on: September 05, 2003, 04:00:00 AM »

Dario picks me up at ten. I am paying him more than my hotel, 120,000 pesos a day, but I figure it is worth it. A translator, driver,and guide for about five dollars an hour, besides he knows a lot of people. I notice that there is a feeling that I am not in Colombia. There is no paranoia, the drivers cooperate, there are few buses and everyone is not fighting to gain an inch. I ask Dario if there are a lot of accidents here and he says no costenos are very polite people. How about car theft and he says no very few. when we park he leaves the car with windows open. When there is a guy watching the cars on the street he leaves the keys with him.

    I ask if there is a lot of crime and he says the old city, Bocagrande, Manga and Crespo are safe, but the mainland suburbs to the west can be dangereous because there are poor people who came from the countryside,  but they are not Costenos. We went to a small group of shops near AFA because I was pricing Panama Hats for a friend who wanted to sell them in her store here. The street peddlers were everywhere.... bogus cuban cigars, t-shirts sunglasses you know the drill. One of them kept following me and stopped when we went to the car , but as soon as I sat down and closed the door he came over again, which was intimidating. I told him "no moleste por favor" and he began pumping himself up, with how it was his work and I did not respect him.  I responded that he did not respect me. we immediately drove away. Dario told me he was antioqueno and a lot of peddlers were from elsewhere. It was only necessary to say gracias to a costeno and they will stop.

   Later that day there was a police sweep on the beach and a lot of peddlers were arrested for having no papers. There is constant complaining in the press about how the peddlers are ruining the tourism on the beach. It is said that a tan obtained in Bocagrande is striped because of the peddlers leaning over you while you lay in the sun. I asked a woman from the hilton staff later about the difference in the citys and she said the people lived on the streets and starved in Cali and Medellin, but in Cartagena they lived on the streets and ate.

   We then moved on to Manga which is a residential island connected to the old city by two bridges. It is covered with old mansions and period architecture. We met with a real estate agent and began looking. That day I found a moorish mansion in beautiful condition for 385,000,000 asking price  ($135.000) it is right around the corner from the Yacht club. The building looks like a wedding cake, all white and covered with filigree with 75 year old tile floors in perfect condition. It has  five bedrooms a separate apartment and another small cottage in the back yard. The neighborhood was quiet  and peddicabs were roaming the streets. Well on to rabbit stew for lunch. jim c

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Calipro
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« Reply #1 on: September 05, 2003, 04:00:00 AM »

... in response to cartagena day 3, posted by jim c on Sep 5, 2003

When you mentioned the barrio Manga it reminded me of an old women that a knew in Cartagena because she used to or still does live in Manga.

Her name is Johana Gracia Morales. She is old and fat and must be in her late fifties by now. She used to live in Cali but Ed Beckwith paid her to move to Cartagena so she could run an agency there for him and she has been there ever since.

Well to make a long story short the agency never got off the ground. One guy that Ed sent down to Cartagena got robbed by Johana's maid so the story goes and it made the newspapers believe it or not.

Some people say Johana is a thief others say she is a witch and very dangerous. I always got along great with her. To tell you the truth she personally set me up with more beautiful women in Cartagena than I have ever seen on AFA website. Also she set up a friend of mine with a girl and they have been married now for about 6 years.
Although he now swears Johana snaked him out of a couple grand at least by double charging him for the wedding in Cartagena. But, thats another story.

Anyway if you get a chance, ask around to see if you can find someone that knows her because I would like to get in contact with her again. She'll pretty much do anything for a buck and if she can't or won't she knows who will. She is a good person to know but don't let anyone down there find out you know her.

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Pete E
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« Reply #2 on: September 05, 2003, 04:00:00 AM »

... in response to cartagena day 3, posted by jim c on Sep 5, 2003

Jim,
Glad to hear they are doing something about the beach peddlers.It really detracts from a beautifull location.
Looking forward to the rest of your report.Very interesting.

Pete

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JR n Atl
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« Reply #3 on: September 05, 2003, 04:00:00 AM »

... in response to cartagena day 3, posted by jim c on Sep 5, 2003

Jim,

You've probably figured this out by now, but Manga is the Beverly Hills of Cartagena. Very good neighborhood. Also, the restaurant at the yacht club (el Restaurante de Club de Pesca) is excellent and one of the most romantic spots in the city at night. Glad you're liking the place, I love it there. The vendors can be a hassle but there are other beaches besides the public beaches where they are few or no vendors(e.g., la Playa Blanca and las Islas del Rosario). You do have to take a boat ride, though. The subject of vendors and what to do about them has come up quite a bit in el Universal recently, so the city is aware that they are becoming an impediment to an already weak tourist trade. FYI, Maria told me about a little known but very good beach to the west of the city on the mainland that she'd drive to when she was living there several years ago. She told me that it was the best one around the city. I'll find out the name and exact location from her and post it later for everyone.

JR

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