Financial "help" expectations

[CaliAdvisor]

... in response to Re: Re: Re: The numbers myth, posted by Jersey Mike on Aug 19, 2003

Interesting points. Women are definetly superficial like us. But over the years I have begun to think less and less of the importance of looks in comparison with personality.

Now do tell, how do you manage to meet so many Brazilians in New York and New Jersey? I know Queens has a pretty large population but where in New Jersey? The east new york area? My ex girlfriend in Brazilian and when I get back from Colombia I am definetely going to be in the market for a Brazilian or Colombian girlfriend in NY.

[lswote]

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Re: The numbers myth, posted by CaliAdvisor on Aug 19, 2003

What a load of crap!  You are in Colombia now? But when you get back to the states you are getting a Brazilian or Colombian girlfriend?  In the states?  HELLO!!! Earth to Aaron!!! The place to find Colombian women is IN COLOMBIA, not the US.  Anybody but a newbie can see your lame story isn't even close to reality.

Geez, you are a first class moron!

[Jersey Mike]

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Re: The numbers myth, posted by CaliAdvisor on Aug 19, 2003

In Newark, NJ, there is a huge population of Brazilian people living in the "Ironbound" section.  Someone told me that it is the largest concentration of Brazilians living anywhere outside of Brazil.  The Ironbound also has many Portugese and South American natives.  Newark, by and large, is a pit, but the Ironbound part of the city is like walking into another country, with lots of great Spanish & Portugese restaurants, and Brazilian barbeque places.  In my work, I covered the city and have had many great lunches and dinners there, and it is easy to meet attractive women, even with my extremely limited Portugese and Spanish skills.

However, I have another advantage because a good friend and business associate of mine is married to a Brazilian woman who is always trying to fix me up with one of her many single friends.  I'm a bit reluctant though, because if it doesn't work out, I don't want to hurt my friendship and business relationship with my friend.

There are pockets of people from different countries living in other small cities around NJ.  There are many Colombian people living around Union City/West New York/North Bergen, as well as other people from Latin America.  Elizabeth, Dover, and Morristown, NJ also have significant Colombian populations that have developed over time.  But my experience has been that Brazilian women seem to be much more receptive to meeting, and possibly dating, a man who they have met without an introduction.

[CaliAdvisor]

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: The numbers myth, posted by Jersey Mike on Aug 20, 2003

Thanks for the great info Mike. Unfortunately when I get back to the states I will be mostly in the New York area, so I don't know if I will have a ton of time to make it to Newark but some of those other small towns closer to the city sound promising.

I have to agree with you on your point about Brazilians being more open to meeting people without an introduction. The Brazilian culture is more open and less conservative than Colombian and the climate of insecurity in Colombia really affects how people act. Women are more wary of just meeting some random guy at a bar or in the supermarket because he could be Narco or Guerrilla or just plain old psycho. Although I am literally swimming in Colombian women down here, almost all of the gals I am friends with or seeing are ones that I have met through common friends or work.

[CaliAdvisor]

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: The numbers myth, posted by CaliAdvisor on Aug 20, 2003

I don't have a ton of time to school you right this second Iswrote because I'm about to head off to my gym where I will be doing some more "swimming".

But please don't worry, when I get some time, you will be put in your place.

[lswote]

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: The numbers ..., posted by CaliAdvisor on Aug 20, 2003

I await your return with glowing anticipation.

[lswote]

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: The numbers myth, posted by CaliAdvisor on Aug 20, 2003

Dear CaliAdvisor,
Why would anyone want you to advise them about anything having to do with Cali, when you are "literally swimming in Colombian women", and yet apparently don't have a girlfriend because you are claiming you will look for one when you get back to New York?  Even the lamest gringo who doesn't know anyone in Cali can go to Cali and end up with a beautiful woman if he chooses to and yet with your huge advantage you have no one.  Maybe you should grab the nearest newbie and ask them how things work.  Or maybe you should change your name to CaliClueless.

[jim c]

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: The numbers ..., posted by lswote on Aug 20, 2003

relax izzy. He's just a baby let him grow a little. He isn't iritating anyone yet, just fantasizing out loud. He is not really a keeper. jim c

[HeyNow]

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: The numbers ..., posted by lswote on Aug 20, 2003

I agree with Bruce.  Here's the deal,,you might be "swimming in Colombian woman" in the U.S. but, you can bet your bottom dollar they ain't attractive.  If they were then this board would not exist.

[CaliAdvisor]

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: The numb..., posted by HeyNow on Aug 20, 2003

I'm not in the US. I am in Colombia. That is why I am swimming. But believe me, the Colombians in NY are just as hot if not even hotter than the ones you will find at the agencies in Cali. They are all from Medellin.

[Pete E]

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: The numb..., posted by HeyNow on Aug 20, 2003

There might be some places in the US where there are alot of latin women that have been here a short time and are not too "acclimated" yet.If you are young and attractive or maybe just rich you may do OK.But it doesn't even start to compare with a place like Cali,where there are huge numbers of women who want to meet gringos and small numbers of gringos or acceptable Colombians that want to meet them.
Whole different supply and whole different demand.Economic principles with a meaning.What a difference a plane ride makes.

Pete

[Mark33]

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: The ..., posted by Pete E on Aug 20, 2003

Pete,
   I understand in a different country,a gringo may be a bit exotic. But it seems you are saying as soon a the foreign woman gets a bit acclimated, her prespective of a gringo changes. She becomes just a picky as any other woman.
  "So if you are young and attractive,or just rich you may do ok" with a foreigbn woman new to the U.S.. How is that different from other women?
  Sure in Cali they may be happy with you. But does their prespective change when they are in the U.S and realize they can upgrade,just as quickly as a man going to a foreign country and realizing his choices are better there?I mean sure anyone can take a plane overseas, but most of us will eventually be living in the U.S. with our foreign wives.
   I guess from my understanding of what you wrote, I am thinking perhaps some women who were very happy with their choice of AM in their country,now come to the U.S. become acclimated and think they settled? But  stay in the marriage anyway for financial or religious reasons.
 If foreign women  are different from AW and do not care about looks,money, ect. They just want a decent man. Why does it seem once in the U.S they want exactly what the AW want looks,money,ect? Is the true nature coming out now that they have more choices?.

[Pete E]

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: ..., posted by Mark33 on Aug 21, 2003

I was talking about single latinas living here,getting acclimated to thier new possibilities.
A woman who is married should not be out in the singles scene.She may still become aware of her new desirability and if she doesn't love you it could be a problem.
But yes,its a risk,they could turn in to the same type of woman that has lived here awhile.I guess the choice is that risk or the for sure situation of dealing with one who is acclimated to this market.Your market advantage could be temporary if she has no loyalty to you.If your woman is sincere and cares for you the risk may be small.

Pete

[Jersey Mike]

... in response to 10-12 to one., posted by pablo on Aug 18, 2003

I'm sure these numbers are way exagerated, but the women swear by them.  It's become a sort of urban legend in Brazil.  One girl from Belo Horizonte said that there were TV news reports about the shortage of eligible men in relationship to single women in her city.

One thing that does seem to be a consistently true is that many Brazilian men lose interest in women over the age of about 25 or so.  A never-married woman of 30 definately seems to suffer from an old-maid stigma in Brazil.

An interesting thing that a couple of Brazilian women told me is they think that Brazilian men are much nicer when they are living here in the US for a while.  The numbers are not in their favor here, so they are less macho and less inclined to cheat, and are more attentive husbands/boyfriends.

[Michael B]

... in response to 10-12 to one., posted by pablo on Aug 18, 2003

1001 total men, 1012 total women--a not too unbeleivable gap, right? Now, 1000 of the men get married, equals 1 remaining single man, 12 remaining single women...at least that's the theory, the 10 to 1, 12 to 1, X to 1 ratios you hear about are 'eligable' ratios, not 'over all' ratios. Now, let's say 2 of the men are 'not interested' in women, so they don't get married at all (or perhaps marry each other), but the other 998 still do, now their is one remaining eligable man and 14 remaining women. 3 of the married men go off and get killed in the war, still one remaing man, 14 never married women and 3 widows, = 17 to 1 ratio.