My test...the right thing to do or not??

[HansErich]

Hello Guys,

As I wonder along side the internet these past months I thought about some test to see if women were serious or not. I always wanted to do this...and a few years ago i heard that an Englishmen had done the same but regarding his quest for a Russian woman.  So I thought....what this Englishman can do...I can also?? yes??

Maybe some men do not approve of this....I think it is a legitemet action to see the outcome.

From 1 st of June untill just a couple of days ago I placed my ad with normal picture on a website,telling my real job and real hobbies etc.etc. NO LIES.....! NO Bullsh!t.
In this ad I asked for a normal woman between 25-32 WITHOUT child from latin -America. So I was NOT asking for a fotomodel....huh!
I got several responds. In fact about 38.(in about 9 weeks)
From what I know of these 38 responses were 20  (!!) not serious. Women asking for money....send (almost) n.ude pictures...well I think that is NOT serious.
From the 18 remaing I answered them with full details. Again 9 (thgat is 50% !!) never send an answer back. Yes latina women CAN be very "polite" at times......:-(
From the other 9 there are still 3 with who i am more or less emailing.
3 Women told me in their second email that the had a child......so they were on my "OFF"list..!

On another side i posted a FAKE picture from a young(er) (goodlooking)guy with a very good CV. (medical doctor,yearly income € 250.000,- etc.etc.)
WEll.....you guessed it my dear friends.....on this site i got about 178 (!!) responses during just 3 weeks!!
I still don't have time to read all the stories all these women wrote. Many of those women wrote their phonenumber with it.....so if I am in Cartagena I can call them. So they are in for a BIG surprise...LOL:-)

The same PICTURE I used on another side BUT with a different (less atttractive CV)...."just" a desk-office job making € 35.000,- anualy...
Here the responds still were about 152....!!

Again Im put a GOOD CV BUT this time with a rather ugly guy (44 year old,Bald,171cm and 102 kg..with thick glasses!!)on the same website.
respons about 167...!!

Ok here is the alst test. I put this very very UGLY guy on a site but with a very charming CV (tierno,loves kids..etc.etc.)offcourse aswell as an anual income of about € 60.000,-

Still......85 respones!

I do not know how this makes you feel....but I for me allready have made a conclusion.

I wonder if you know what that is???

I wish EVERY man here on this list the best of luck.....BECAUSE YOU WILL NEED IT!!!!!!!!

Best regards,

Hans-Erich.

PS: the pics are allready deleted...as I no longer can hold the flood of emails of women....!!!

[Patrick]

... in response to My test...the right thing to do or not??, posted by HansErich on Aug 11, 2003

I'm not sure what your point is.  That a man's income isn't actually meaningless to Latin women?  How shallow they are!  Kind of reminds me of the men who's primary objective is to marry (or not to marry!) the hottest piece of ass they can find.

Let's at least not be hypocrites about this.  There's plenty of shallowness on both sides of the border.

[beenthere]

... in response to What is the point?, posted by Patrick on Aug 12, 2003

I agree Patrick...................also it seems like the men who complain most about women who are looking for a man with alot of money, are the men that don't have any. What's wrong with a women wanting a man who can provide for her, her future children, give her a good life, one that's comfortable.  Nothing wrong with that.  Looks in a man aren't everything, some women like to live a comfortable life-style.  I've been poor and I've been rich............I like rich alot better.

[HeyNow]

... in response to What is the point?, posted by Patrick on Aug 12, 2003

I believe the point is; every woman has a price.  That is if they are attractive and have no children.  The more attractive the higher the price.  With men we just want a woman the looks good and treats us right.  Woman of course want a man that looks good and treats her right AND the income.  This is the point he made.

[Patrick]

... in response to Re: What is the point?, posted by HeyNow on Aug 12, 2003

"With men we just want a woman that looks good and treats us right."

This description fits some men, but perhaps not the majority.  At least not in my opinion after being around this for seven years.  Perhaps you should change that to-

"We just want a woman who looks REALLY HOT and treats us right.  Oh yea, she should be much younger than us because we look younger than we really are and the laides near our age just aren't hot enough."

I believe that description fits a fairly large percentage of the men looking for women in Latin America.

[Starman]

... in response to Re: Re: What is the point?, posted by Patrick on Aug 12, 2003

Whats wrong with that!!???

[Mark33]

... in response to Re: Re: What is the point?, posted by Patrick on Aug 12, 2003

Strange how every guy swears he looks young for his age, but looking around, the average AM looks no better than the average AW.
But I forgot. Foreign women are saints. They do not care about beer bellies,bald heads,wrinkles,or all of the other stuff that make AW shallow. They only care about your heart,and the fact you are a good guy and can take care of them.
  Nope!foreign women are like everyone else.If not, why then do they become just as picky as any other woman as soon as she is in Europe or the U.S.?
  Tons of immigrant woman in the U.S. already, but even the ones who are here less than a year become picky pretty quick.
  I think men and women are equally shallow. Women just hide it better.
   mark

[Patrick]

... in response to Re: Re: Re: What is the point?, posted by Mark33 on Aug 12, 2003

But I don't know if they hide it better.  I've always felt that men with some people skills could do fine in Latin America.

I think some of the large age gap marriages can work, but when people point out the failures they've heard about, I can't help but wonder what criteria the men were using to pick their women.  Was it looks, looks, and looks?

It just seems a bit hypocritical for men to be talking about the women looking for money while it's obvious to anyone reading this site with an open mind that a fair number of the men are overwhelmingly motivated to look in LA because they can find a younger more physically attractive woman there.

Then some of these same men complain about the women looking for money say there's nothing wrong with wanting a very physically attractive woman.  Then why is there anything wrong in looking for a man with money?

[jim c]

... in response to Agree absolutely, posted by Patrick on Aug 12, 2003

Patrick
There is a great scene with Marilyn Monroe and Joe E Brown (or it could be Buster Keaton)where She admits she is with him because he is rich, but he is with her because she is young and beautiful. I think it is in "diamonds are a girls best friend". Nothing really changes! jim c

[lswote]

... in response to Re: Re: Re: What is the point?, posted by Mark33 on Aug 12, 2003

Despite my beer belly, bald head and wrinkles I found I had one asset I didn't even realize I had.  I am blue eyed and blonde and was a beautiful child.  My wife and her family want a baby that takes after me.  So as a gringo I had that feature which means nothing to the average AW but meant something to my Latin wife.

[Starman]

... in response to Re: Re: Re: What is the point?, posted by Mark33 on Aug 12, 2003

You are making a broad generalization. There are many men that do not fit your description on this board and have married and are dating much younger women and many good women in the US immigrant or not. The difficulty here is the market...we are at a disadvantage.

By the way, I'm not bald, fat, wrinkly or shallow. And in my neck of the woods, women are normally much more overweight than men and they do not age as well, yet have such high expectations. I think that both partners in a marriage or relationship should be concerned with their appearance..it's very important to look good for each other. This is a form of self respect as well.

In my opinion the problem with most relationships is once we marry and change over the years the perceived value we have with our partner may change and we may then think that we can find a better deal elsewhere. At this point one of us does not love the other like before and so the emotional bond has weakened. This makes it easier to go our separate ways. That is why I think that for a marriage to work it has to be a lifelong commitment where we have dedicated ourselves to maintaining our value as a partner. This is a day-by-day process that must be carefully cultivated everyday. I learned that from my previous marriage.

Tim.

[Mark33]

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Re: What is the point?, posted by Starman on Aug 12, 2003

Starman,
    My comments about the description of AM was said tongue in cheek. It is the agency hype men believe and repeat when they make broad generalizations about AW and foreign women.  
  I understand there are a lot of great guys here. But also many who whine and complain about the shallowness of women, but as Patrick says become just as shallow themselves.
mark
 

[Starman]

... in response to Re: Re: Re: What is the point?, posted by Mark33 on Aug 12, 2003

My fiancee, her sister, mother and friends tell me I look 35 although I'm 42. My fiancee is 13 years younger than I and an older man is her preference. She and also all of the women I've met in SA are quite different than most women here. I think the key is how well you choose, which depends so much on how level-headed you are. I'd say that the woman should be at least in her upper twenties as well. Most of the younger women (girls) I've met are not very mature.

Tim.

[JR n Atl]

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Re: What is the point?, posted by Starman on Aug 12, 2003

Tim,

Agreed. Our ability to make good choices based on a woman's character and not solely upon her looks is essential to our success in my view. The nice thing about SA, and Colombia in particular, is that as a rule the women are more appealing and it's easier for the level-headed man to find that good combination of character and a woman that he feels is attractive (and attracted to him, I might add). And I'd recommend avoiding the younger ones as well. The youngest I met while in Bogota were 28-30 and frankly even with the one young woman whose character was impeccable and who had a good deal of maturity for her age (she was 29), the gap between us was just too much to overcome. It was very difficult to connect with her/them at any other than a superficial level.

JR

[Mark33]

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Re: What is the point?, posted by Starman on Aug 12, 2003

Tim,
  A 13 year age difference is not bad at all. Especially if you look younger. I agree to a point some foreign women are different than the ones in the U.S. but given the same circumstances,having the same oppurtunities women are the same.  
  You are correct, it is the charecter of a person that makes them different. Not a country.
I was in Mexico last week, a little boy was begging for food at a McDonalds. He went to every table,crying. I was on line watching. Every table was full. There were mothers there with their kids eating and having a good time. Everyone ignored this child.
 There was a table with 2 American girls. One girl got up and offered the little boy a seat. She then went to buy him some food. The little boy's mother came in after wards with a baby no older than 5 months. The young girls went over and also had her sit down and bought her a meal,while fussing over the baby.
   It was really heartwarming to see. I would have done the same had they come up to me. But it bothered me so many people turned down that little boy,and ignored him as though he was not there. The charecter of these American girls said alot. I try not to generalize.