CASE IN POINT !!!!

[Aaron]

... in response to Re: Re: Re: CASE IN POINT !!!!, posted by Pete E on Aug 1, 2003

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[lswote]

... in response to Pete, I'd be strata 15, but that's anoth..., posted by Aaron on Aug 1, 2003

Oh, that's right.  You can post it because you got BANNED.  Bye you little twit.

[cancunhound]

... in response to CASE IN POINT !!!!, posted by Aaron on Aug 1, 2003

on this board would launder money unknowingly?
I take it back - 007 would never be a door mat.

[Brazilophile]

... in response to And how many guys..., posted by cancunhound on Aug 1, 2003

CH,

That is very perceptive of you!  That request might be a test run for larger requests in the future.  

In fact, the entire friendship of a rich Colombian with a middle class American might be as a contact for a money conduit between the US and Colombia.  It reminds me of a guy in Cali who was always hanging around the agency I was staying at.  He was asking the Americans to convert US dollars into pesos for him.  Apparently the exchange rate for nationals was lower than that for foreigners or there was a special tax nationals had to pay.  In any case, most of the Americans were naive and felt there were simply helping someone out.  One American guy, a stockbroker who spoke plainly, felt the Colombian had some kind of racket going on.

Now, in Aaron's case, brilliant PhD candidate that he is, he has agreed to take on power of attorney for these US accounts.  If there is any nefarious activity going on with this woman or these US accounts Aaron will find himself up to his level 15 strata in very stinky doodoo!  

I want to caution other listers to ABSOLUTELY DO NOT DO WHAT AARON HAS DONE!!!!!  There is a war on terrorism going on and part of that war is financial.  The US government is tracking foreign owned bank accounts and their activity and flagging all individuals associated with them.  

REMEMBER THAT THE US AGREED TO LABEL FARC AND THE ELN AS TERRORIST GROUPS IN EXCHANGE FOR COLOMBIAN SUPPORT IN THE WAR AGAINST IRAQ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

A poster on LWL, who might also lurk here, told me privately that he was interrogated by US Customs AND Interpol due to his frequent trips to Colombia. This happened 3 years ago before 9/11 so that sort of thing might be even more likely to happen nowadays.

DO NOT LEAVE A PAPER TRAIL OF MONEY TRANSFERS TO PEOPLE ABROAD UNLESS YOU ARE IN A SERIOUS AND **VERIFIABLE** RELATIONSHIP WITH HER (or whomever)!!!!

[Aaron]

... in response to Re: Money laundering, posted by Brazilophile on Aug 2, 2003

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with have been closed for over a year now. She has liquidated all her assessts here because she never had any intention of living here. After she finished her degree, she went home. She finished her PhD in a different program of study. I knew her already for 4 years before she and I made the agreement. I've visited her many times.

Now, your response to my post has demonstrated that you've taken things totally out of context, especially with only a few details, and created your own story based upon the stereotypical thinking that "ALL COLOMBIANS ARE NARCO-TRAFFICKERS". Which is totally not true.

Brazilophile, I know Colombians here in the USA and in Colombia; many that wouldn't care to associate with a person that would make the kinds of comments that you have made above in your post, especially about an accomplished, well-educated, and professional lady. If you cannot show respect for me, at least show some respect for her.  

Aaron

[Brazilophile]

... in response to Brazilophile, the accounts which I were ..., posted by Aaron on Aug 3, 2003

Aaron,

You know very well that I NEITHER SAID NOR IMPLIED that all Colombians are narco-traffickers.  

But now that you have brought it up!!!   Save your indignation and condescension for the US Customs agents who might profile you as a "person of interest" as you answer their questions of why you are making so many trips to Colombia, who exactly is this woman you are involved with, why did you have power of attorney over her bank accounts here, why did she need to have bank accounts in the US, why did she need to have so much money here, where does she get her money from, where does her family get her money from, what exactly is your relationship to her family, why did you agree to accept more money from her after she closed her accounts, did she or her family ever give you money or presents in exchange for handling their US finances, oh you have visited them in Colombia serveral times, so they gave you free trips to Colombia for helping them out with their money problems in the US, what exactly is it that you say you are studying, have you ever used drugs, not even tried MJ as a kid?  So tell me again, why do you make so many trips to Colombia?  etc. etc. etc.

In case you don't know it Aaron, YOUNG men who appear to be affluent and travel frequently between the US and SA is the profile for drug traffickers.  Does the shoe fit?

My point was, and still is, that what you did was a VERY STUPID thing to do with THAT country at THIS time.

[Aaron]

... in response to Re: Brazilophile, the accounts which I w..., posted by Brazilophile on Aug 3, 2003

she's definitely more of a friend to me than you are. Also, believe me, I know my rights, and I know my friends, and my act is together. Thanks for your concern.

Aaron

[Aaron]

... in response to Re: Money laundering, posted by Brazilophile on Aug 2, 2003

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close Colombian friends that he trusts, and that trust him?

Aaron

[DavidMN]

... in response to Re: Money laundering, posted by Brazilophile on Aug 2, 2003

I agree, the power of attorney sounds odd as does the money transfer(s) to pay credit card bills. As far as I know, a Visa/MC issued by a Colombian financial institution is accepted everywhere here, just like ours is accepted there. And if the people are really "strata 15" and travel often to the U.S., then it seems likely they would have a relationship with a big bank in Colombia that offers foreign currency accounts and/or has a branch in the U.S. Heck, even a regular, middle class friend of mine in Bogota has a Citibank Visa card.

The upper class in Colombia and other countries with a history of a depreciating currency is well versed in putting a portion of thier assets in dollars or euros or yen or buying real estate in those currencies.  So the whole story about paying bills, power of attorney, etc. for a wealthy family just doesn't make sense. There's a boatload of attorneys, private bankers and financial planners out there that do nothing but handle these types of affairs.

Aaron, I'm not doubting your story or asking for more details, but what Brazilophile offers is good advice: If they're you're friends and everything is above-board, fine. But hang onto your receipts, correspondence, whatever because someday (to borrow from Ricky Ricardo) "you might have some 'splainin' to do."

[CaliAdvisor]

... in response to Re: Money laundering, posted by DavidMN on Aug 2, 2003

testing.... sorry.

[Aaron]

... in response to Re: Money laundering, posted by DavidMN on Aug 2, 2003

other expenses.

Aaron

[snap38]

... in response to And how many guys..., posted by cancunhound on Aug 1, 2003

launder  money,  man that cracked me up

[Aaron]

... in response to Re: And how many guys..., posted by snap38 on Aug 1, 2003

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