CASE IN POINT !!!!

[Aaron]

I just got off the telephone this morning with a good Colombian female friend who is currently there in Colombia. We've been friends for 6 years.

My friend told me that she needs to pay some bills here in the USA, and she asked if she could deposit $1000.00 USD into my bank account.

I said yes. We've done this before because while she was in Colombia for a brief period, I was power of attorney on her USA accounts. Mucha Plata. I've visited her. She's way above strata 6 in terms of housing. Gated community. Great job. A great Colombian husband.

We've talked about the agencies before, but she tells me I don't need them, and that I could probably get any woman there without an agency.

Now, I ask this question.

How many guys on this board have wives of that calibre whom they've met in the agencies the first time?

If there are any, you have a good woman that's better than most of the agency girls.

Aaron

[Jeff S]

... in response to CASE IN POINT !!!!, posted by Aaron on Aug 1, 2003

... a while back on the Asian board. Of the 20 or so who responded, about half met their fiances or spouses through personal introductions, about one fourth through chance meetings whan the man was visiting the woman's country, and only one fourth through mail order bride (website, chatroom, printed catalogue) means. I thought it was interesting.

If you have an opportunity to meet through family or friends introduction, I'm guessing here, but I'll bet the odds of hooking up with a scammer or green card shark are greatly reduced. It's very likely you'll meet the type of women who wouldn't join an agency, also, likely a more conservative, cautious person, for some of us, better wife potential, than the more adventurous/party/desparate/whatever type of girl who would join an agency. Of course, your mileage may vary.

- Jeff

[Aaron]

... in response to We did an informal survey...., posted by Jeff S on Aug 1, 2003

I can probably meet many women through friends both here and there. It wont be easy, but it's what I want to do.
I think being more independent is the best approach. A person has more control in what kinds of women he would like to meet.

Take Care,
Aaron

[markxport]

... in response to CASE IN POINT !!!!, posted by Aaron on Aug 1, 2003

is no guarantee for a successful marriage.....rich couples get divorced just as often as poor ones, maybe more.....

Take care,

Mark

[Aaron]

... in response to Strata 6 (or 15)......, posted by markxport on Aug 1, 2003

n/t

[Cali James]

... in response to CASE IN POINT !!!!, posted by Aaron on Aug 1, 2003


Great Aaron, if you don't need an agency than don't use one.  I personally think the agencies are a good option but they're no panacea either.  The woman you described sounds like she's got some bucks and if that's what you're looking for, an agency probably isn't the best place to look.  On the other hand, you can find a lot of educated middle to upper middle class women in the agencies.  

But if only to prove that they do exist, I've gone out with three or four rich Colombianas that I met at agencies.  One girl's father owned a box factory in Bogota.  I stayed with her family my first visit ever to Colombia for two weeks.  They lived in a $200,000 house, all drove new SUVs and their children went to universities abroad.  Anyway, believe it or not, she belonged to an agency.

Another woman I went out with was a dentist.  She held down two jobs, one as a University professor and another in her dentistry practice.  She was pulling down a couple of grand a month and her father was an executive in a big company in Bogota.  She had traveled all over Europe, went to an English institute in the States.  This was a strata six gal meeting gringos at an agency.  

Even in my wife's family there's some money here and there.  A couple of uncles have houses in Ingenio, another uncle owns a 1000 student bi-lingual school in Pance, her grand-parents have a very nice house in San Fernando, all the grandchildren have gone to the university.  To me they seem more middle class than snobby rich.  They are people with integrity who haved worked hard to get what they have today.

[cancunhound]

... in response to Re: CASE IN POINT !!!!, posted by Cali James on Aug 1, 2003

That's my condo's turf.

[jim c]

... in response to sshhh!! let's keep Ingenio a secret, posted by cancunhound on Aug 1, 2003

my condo was in edificio liliana at the west end of carrera 85b. That is ingenio I. Norman and Traveler lived in a house on the same street in Ingenio III six blocks east. I moved to Carrera 101 in CJ and Norman now lives a block away in a condo.jim c

[cancunhound]

... in response to Re: sshhh!! let's keep Ingenio a secret, posted by jim c on Aug 2, 2003

South is where it's at.  Shoot me an e-mail next time you go down, 1st round's on me.

[Aaron]

... in response to Re: CASE IN POINT !!!!, posted by Cali James on Aug 1, 2003

many?

[mudd]

... in response to CASE IN POINT !!!!, posted by Aaron on Aug 1, 2003

case in point, most men in the agencies dont have friends, or know anyone in foreign cities, its like compairing apples to oranges, when one person doesnt have either one. most men will also not travel around the world, just to meet one girl that they might have been introduced through a friend, and hope it works, if it doesnt, then what? he curises the malls looking for available women, not a way i would want to spend a week. i get what you are saying,or asking, and you have to wonder, why is this girl in an agency, good looking, nice personality, maybe the same reason you are there, so why are we there?

[Aaron]

... in response to Re: CASE IN POINT !!!!, posted by mudd on Aug 1, 2003

My point is that the type of woman I want would be very hard to find in an agency. So, I have to use a different approach. That's all.

[markxport]

... in response to Re: Re: CASE IN POINT !!!!, posted by Aaron on Aug 1, 2003

Hello Aaron,

Sounds like your fortunate enough to have friends in Colombia that can assist you in your search.  I wish you all the best in that search.

However, I wouldn't generalize about the women in the agency either.  Just because these women may not be "strata 6", doesn't mean they're not marriage material.  In the end, you have to go with what works for you and your chosen mate.  

Take care,

Mark

[Aaron]

... in response to Fair enough, posted by markxport on Aug 1, 2003

All day long I have been mentioning that it is OK that a guy can use an agency, and of course it's ok to look in Colombia.

However, I have decided to take another route, and back away from the agency scene, but not away from Colombia or Miami.

My post that started this thread is based upon the premise that I want a woman that can pull her own weight. For me, the physical thing has become secondary, and I need a woman that is more compatible with me in other aspects.

Take Care,
Aaron

[Pete E]

... in response to Re: Re: CASE IN POINT !!!!, posted by Aaron on Aug 1, 2003

Aaron,
Of course its not likely a strata 6 woman would be in an agency.But there are many good women there.But not good enough for you I guess.If the US was rated strata 1-6 would you be a 6?Before you answer remember that JFK married up in social status when he married Jackie.Her family had their money longer(And didn't get it bootlegging)He was a 5 on a 6 scale.
There is a certain amount of snobery here which would usually be offensive to us.Isabel Allende tells the story of her current husband,a San Francisco lawyer.He was an orphan and supported himself from a young age and managed to go to law school.She said this would have never been possible in Chile.Or Colombia probably.You can have the silver spooners.You can't afford the full time maid they will expect to have.
Meeting this type of woman is probably not so easy.But you have an inside with your friend.With her help it might be possible.Probably beats your chances here from past history.
Beats thinking about it also,you should give it a try.Guess who's coming to dinner Colombian style.Did you read  Hoda's experiences with predjudice in Bogota?

Pete