Horny Dawg Question

[wealthquest]

Hello

I’ve been a lurker for some time, but I have a question I would like to get answered by some of the veterans here.

If you meet a girl through one of these agencies, and go down there, how much intimacy
can you expect?  Do people get married without first having any sexual contact?  I don’t mean to sound distasteful but I hear many people meet Latinas and get married first or second trip.  If I went, I too am looking for a potential mate, but I want to know if I were to take a chance and get married, I would at least know what I can expect from a relationship, sexual wise.

Please don’t misinterpret me.  I don’t want to exploit anyone or go down there just for a good time alone.  But how do you address the subject of sex.  I hear the culture is very religious...  I guess what I am asking is that if the no sex before marriage rule really exits is SA.

And as far as these agencies go, the ones with the bed and breakfast.  If I were to be introduced to a girl I really liked, I hear many places don’t allow women into the “sleeping area” were the men are.  Is this true?

Also do any of you guys have personal webpages about South America or a place with trip reports?  Thanks

Jeff

[oakham]

... in response to Horny Dawg Question, posted by wealthquest on Aug 6, 2003

In my travels there was Lupita who was a withdrawn person at first but to my surprise sought the delectables with me.  I was weak and succumbed. It was human nature pulling us away and winning against restraint.  She felt guilty. It was not in her wishes to repeat but we sucumbed again and again.  I never saw her after that trip.  I learned she had an unfortunate event that took her away from this world.  I'll always remember her. "Lupita Lupita.. so bonita."

[jim c]

... in response to Re: Horny Dawg Question, posted by oakham on Aug 6, 2003

I loved it.  Too bad, you didn't drag the bait longer. You would have had them crying and putting together a fund for your bonita lolita lupita.  welcome aboard !!! jim c

[Calipro]

... in response to Re: Horny Dawg Question, posted by oakham on Aug 6, 2003

Looks like even a blind squirrel can get a nut every now and then.

[locoabogado]

... in response to Horny Dawg Question, posted by wealthquest on Aug 6, 2003

This is my first post here since just got password. I just got back from a TLC vacation in Panama and the deal from my view is that some girls do and some girls dont. Alot of the guys were looking for wives and alot were into partying and nailing as many girls as they could. One of the friends I met hooked up with this nymph chick who wouldnt stop waking him up for more and this other dude couldnt get in his girl's pants with a crow bar.

[mudd]

... in response to Re: Horny Dawg Question, posted by locoabogado on Aug 6, 2003

how was the TLC trip in Panama? have you tried any other cities?

[QuitoMan]

... in response to Horny Dawg Question, posted by wealthquest on Aug 6, 2003

The other posters who've replied have it correct about Latinas sexuality. I would just add the following.

If you go to an agency that accepts drop-in male clients and then pick a woman out who'you've never spoken too then I imagine, because i've never been in that situ., that the first moments must be awkward, but just like a blind date you move on and if there's been no kissing after the 2nd or 3rd date then you too must move on again. Afterall, in that situation, you choose the girl because you saw she was attractive - she must know that too.

On the other hand, if you join an agency that has email translation set up you could even broach the subject before you arrive in her country. Ask her how many boyfriends she had ( if she says none then she's lying or maybe you need to do a quick re-assess if this is what you want). next email, when was the first kiss etc. Another couple of emails, what she looks for in a relationship. If sex is important? How important? Why so? And you can go on from there - could even ask how long until she sleeps with a guy after she meets him. She'll probably say it depends. Whish is probably very true - all is CHEMISTRY.

My point is that you could find out alot with emails before you even get to the country. Hells bells! You might get her so fired up with your emails that she's ready to jump on you the moment you step off the plane.

[HansErich]

... in response to Horny Dawg Question, posted by wealthquest on Aug 6, 2003

Hallo Jeff,

I can see you are very new to latino culture in south-America my friend!!

To tell you the truth I am sure that MOST girls at 15,16 had sex in SA. For sure the last 10 years.

Sure NOT on your first meeting...but on the third meeting you can talk about sex with her.(mind you I speak spanish!!)
I mean NOT vulgarities...or filty words..NOOOO.
But you can talk with her in a civile manner.
I am sure most latinas will understand OR even bring the subject up themselves.

The latinos have a great non-verbal language.....you shoud LEARN IT Jeff!!!;-)

I sure would not marry any girl that said to me : "I do not want sex before marriage"...!!

That concept is from 50 or more years ago...

Mind you in SA are many UNMARRIED (some even very young!!) single mothers.
How do you think they get the child???

Even in Peru (a rather conservative country in SA) I had sex on my second date with a peruana. WE liked eachother....and then sex. Big deal. No problema. We were no little kids you know.
She was NOT a prostitute....not a show-girl. Just a administratory asssistent in a large company.
I ahve seen this many many times.

People think very different about sex in SA.

I know in USA some people preach hell and doom about sex...telling you that it is bad. It is NOT my friend.
It is BAD to have UNPROTECTED sex...and to make a child and then run away!!! That is BAD!!

regards,

Hansd-Erich.

[Pete E]

... in response to Horny Dawg Question, posted by wealthquest on Aug 6, 2003

Jeff,
The more conservative girls are not going to have sex with you right away.There are girls who will but be carefull of them.
But - - my opinion is you should date long enough to get to where sex is part off the relatinship.Otherwise you are gambling on something very important to your happiness.
Yes,most agencies won't let the girls in you room,which I think is a little juvenile and inviting you to leave for a hotel.Some concearn about the reputation of the girls,but we are adults here.If one girl goes for it it doesn't mean they all are.
Ricardo at All Colombian Girls is an exception.I guess its hard to tell you you can't have a girl in your room when he has one in his.
Now quick sex is very available,from the pros to what I will call semi pros that you might find at an agency.
When I went the agency owner said is I was going out to the Bordellos not to let the girls who worked at the agency know or they will not try to help you after that.I have friends that have shopped along time and have availed themselves of these services also.I mean come on,we are adult males.How long do you want to do without sex when it is so avaiable?

Pete

[wealthquest]

... in response to Re: Horny Dawg Question, posted by Pete E on Aug 6, 2003

Yes , I agree completely.  But I think before the subject of marriage comes up, I think knowing everything I can about my partner is important.

Somewhat embarrassing for me, when I had my first sexual experience, I was dating an absolute knock out.  She was stunningly gorgeous.  My friends were very jealous.  But she was very reluctant to have sex with me.  But we both were attracted to one another, and finally, just once, after many months of begging and pleading, we did the deed.  But something was not right.  Not going to be graphic here, but something just didn’t fit.

I didn’t have sex for several years after that.  I thought something was wrong with me.  I mean, here was this incredibly beautiful women, and I just didn’t like have sex with her, after months of wanting to.

The next experience was totally different.  It was what I originally expected the procedure to be like.  And then it dawned on me thinking back that my first girlfriend had told me briefly that she had an abortion.  

So having this in my head, if I ever do decide to get married, I want to know what I’m getting into (no pun intended)

[DallasSteve2]

... in response to Horny Dawg Question, posted by wealthquest on Aug 6, 2003

Jeff

Yours is a valid question.

When I went to Bogota in 1999 I met a beautiful young girl through an agency and on the first date she told me she would marry me but that she would not have sex with me before marriage.  I didn't ask, she just volunteered this information.  There were plenty of what we would call "red flags" in that announcement, but I married her anyway.  

Back to her invitation, at first I said "Thanks but no thanks".  I felt that a woman who would make that deal wasn't really interested in me, only in the visa.  I was right.  Then she called me back a month later and said she was ready to "consumate" the deal.  I went back to Bogota, spent some time with her, filed for the K1 visa, yada, yada, yada.  It was an exciting 2 years, but in the end, she only married me for the visa.  She was 20 years younger.  Se la vi.  I would have rather spent those 2 years with her than alone.

Anyway, forget the pious, Catholic girl image.  There are some of those in Latin America, but in the larger cities most women have the same range of morals more or less as women here in the US.  Some are rather timid and conservative, most are "ready to rumba".

If you meet a girl in an agency in Colombia and she's not showing you much physical affection, SHE'S NOT ATTRACTED TO YOU (Rocket Science 101).  Look for another woman.

If you make a trip I hope you will take a lot of pictures of the women and post them here.  Be sure to blot out your face so that everybody can criticize you royally.

Steve

[burbuja2]

... in response to Horny Dawg Answer, posted by DallasSteve2 on Aug 6, 2003

Yo Dallas. You are correct Sir!  The only thing I would add is that its best not to initiate any PDA in public.  As a general rule, there is probably more sexual liasons in SA, but it is discreet.  I think most girls are sensitive to some gringo groping her in full view of others.  That's why when Burbuja comes to town, all the women come around.  Now lets see some pictures!

[wealthquest]

... in response to Horny Dawg Answer, posted by DallasSteve2 on Aug 6, 2003

Steve

But don’t you feel differently now ?  All the money you spent and emotional grief, and Im sorry, the girl couldn’t even give you any pleasure ?  If that’s too personal, I understand.  But I can find someone like that in the US who will marry me, take half my assets, and leave me for some other “stud”.

And I don’t know, Ive been looking at a lot of these agencies websites.  All tell you that Latinas prefer older guys.  Well I just a trial membership to Amigos.com , and did a search for Columbia.  I would like a lady in her early 20s.  And 90% say Im too old (I just turned 33!)

Jeff

[DallasSteve2]

... in response to Re: Horny Dawg Answer, posted by wealthquest on Aug 6, 2003

Jeff

You wrote: "the girl couldn’t even give you any pleasure"

Correction: She gave me lot's of pleasure.

Maybe you didn't catch the whole story.  I went back to Bogota.  We did the dead.  More than once.  Then she came here and lived with me for 2 years.  There was plenty of action during those 2 years.  That little girl taught this old dog a lot of new tricks.

My main regret was that I gave her too much money.  She probably would've stayed for a lot less.  It pains me to admit it, but maybe someone else will learn from my lesson.  I thought she loved me.  I was on cloud 9.  I got something for my cash.  What did Anna Nicole Smith's sugar daddy get?  A peck on the check?  And Anna's a cow.  I wouldn't do her if I was single.

Reminds me of a quote I saw by Gene Simmons (Kiss' bass player) the other day:

"If you want to date a girl buy her a house.  It's much cheaper than getting married and she'll be happy right away."

Steve

[HansErich]

... in response to Re: Horny Dawg Answer, posted by wealthquest on Aug 6, 2003

Dear Jeff,

In one of my eaerly posting I said that latinas UNDER 25 (some even at 30!!) are still GIRLS.
You can NOT take tyhem serious. Do NOT do this...or you will be in a pool of misery.

And latina girls LIKE sex....trust me on this one.
If it is nice for me....why should it be a horror for a girl to have sex.
(No I am NOT that ugly..)

Thay also like it.

Let's not fool eachother.

Sex is very important.
If any girl is giving me the "OOO i am so conservative and i do not sex before marriage thing" she is HISTORY!!

Hans-Erich.