Brazil Trip Report, Part 4a

[Ralph]

... in response to Re: Re: Claro, posted by my2cent on Mar 5, 2003

Here is my honest opinion. On average, Colombianas and ladies from Brazil and Venezuela are better looking than girls from the DR. DR ladies are just naturally sexy, very protective of their man, and proud of their country.

Most DR women look better in person than in photos, although some look worse. There was an old song by the New Riders Of The Purple Sage, called if you wanna know how she makes love, look at the way she dances. The DR, is the prime example of this.

One lady I dated for a few months was "ok". Certainly not "hot". In fact when I first met her I was totally not attracted to her. Then. . . . .  .I watched her dance. . . . she went form a 5 to a 7. The song was very right!

Jslo and I were talking and I told him that Dominican women seem to be missing a few vertabrae when they dance and make love. Catch him off list and I'm sure he'll describe the girl from "Bootys" a bit more precisely;-)

The main reasons I traveled to the DR so much was not really the women. It was much closer for me, living in NY. It had much more things to see than say Colombia. There are some of the nicest beaches in the Caribbean down here, as well as some not so nice. There is the oldest city in the new world, the colonial zone in santo domingo.I am now getting to work on some Video/TV productions down here and getting to see more of the Island. I got to stay at really nice All Inclusive Resorts, helped shoot windsurfing and kite surfing up in Caberete etc etc etc.

I came here mostly to vacation and relax, not to meet women. It is almost impossible not to meet women if you speak a bit of spanish.

I like Merengue better than Salsa. One gentleman on LWL described the difference as Salsa being about showing off your moves, and Merengue all about having fun. I'd say that is acurate. I also like to chill out at a little shack on the Malecon listening to Bachatta, which is also native to the DR.

I like Baseball, much more than soccer. The DR is BaseBall country. I got to be on field to shoot some action during the Play Offs. I shot some of the baseball players homes in San Pedro. I love watching kids that are to poor to afford balls and gloves, playing baseball with broomsticks and bottle caps. The fields in some places here are terrible. Tire tracks huge rocks etc. Kids from San Pedro must laugh out loud the first time they see artificial turf! Heck hitting a ball with a bat, must seem easy after hitting bottle caps!

Ok, back to the women. They say "mi amor" and "papi" just as many latinas do, but for me atleast it has a different sound.
They are very protective. My Dominican ex wife, got between me and a bouncer that was bigger than me, and she was open hand slapping him in the chest, telling him if he touches me, he's dead! I'm 6'4" and over 250lbs and she was maybe 5'1" and 115 lbs. She would take a bullet for me. It is a shame things did not work out because we loved each other incredibly much.

Would I say the DR is the best place to look for a wife? No. Would I try and convince people to give up on Colombia and come here instead? No. Colombia has all the agencies, which for the average guy is a big advantage. I even stayed at one years ago but personally was not into the whole interview process. People are different, and I found it too much like interviewing a potential employee. I prefer meeting under "normal circumstances".

Jslo had a very interesting technique he used to get phone numbers from women in the DR. He asked them for it! He went to a casino, asked the change girl for some change and her phone number. It worked.

How did he meet his lady? It started to rain, and he ducked into a little restaurant to get out of the rain. He met the waitress and started a conversation. To me that is more romantic than interviewing 50 ladies. YMMV.

If you have any specific questions, please ask away.

[my2cent]

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Claro, posted by Ralph on Mar 6, 2003

Thanks ralph for the info..just another option other than cali or brazil...

[Onephd]

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Claro, posted by Ralph on Mar 6, 2003


Do you think that correspondence is a decent way to meet women from the DR? In other words, do you think Letter writing and then a visit would be a decent means to meet somone?  

I think many would agree that meeting somone under other-than agency conditions would be more attractive.  Also I think the DR gives a person a better chance to do so since its closer and cheaper to visit etc.  I only like the idea of an agency simply because it helps a man/woman identify who is marriage minded.  Thats it.  After that, its up to the man and the women to find the best person and get to know that person.  I see an agency simply as a means of introduction to someone else that is at best marriage minded.  I have never used one yet and I too have some concerns about the "interview" process but I'll try it soon I hope.

It's great to finally hear something about the DR.  

Contrary to what many people have tried to infer from my past post. I was not trying to tell anyone what to do or not to do.  It was my opinion.

[Ralph]

... in response to Great Post, - quick question, posted by Onephd on Mar 6, 2003

I think agencies are fine, I think correspondence is fine, I also think "free lancing" is fine. Take JSlo, he emailed 2 women before coming down here. In person, there was no real chemistry. We also went out to a bunch of places and he met a lot of women. Once again, no real chemistry, but he was ahving a blast.

Then he ducks into a restaurant to avoid the rain and BAM, lightning bolt!

I met my Dominican Ex Wife by being introduced by friends. My current novia I met by correspondence, by phone rather than mail. I don't think any one method is best.

I can't speak for everybody else, but my posts were not directed soley to you. In retrospect, maybe I should have responded to a different post in the thread. One poster took a stance that if Brazil was so great, why don't we hear about it here. As I pointed out, silly question. This board is both agency and Colombia centric, so the results here are heavily skewed.

I guess to sum up, I could see myself returning to the DR many times for the rest of my life, whether things work out with my Novia or not. Heck if I marry a woman from Brazil or Colombia, I can picture taking her to the DR on vacation. I would never dream of taking a Dominican woman to Cali on vacation, Brazil yes, Cali no. The women here are just a fringe benefit for me.

[colman]

... in response to Yalg-  Dude Calm down!!, posted by Onephd on Mar 4, 2003

Yalg got his "manliness" hurt by some intelligent, cultured beautiful Colombiana like Robbysanjuan and must vent out some air or he'll explode--I was born here from Colombian heritage and consider Brazilian women more attractive than Colombianas (just by a hair, though lol) but I have obvious reasons for trying to find a Colombiana as a potential wife anyway great threads--colman

[Yalg]

... in response to My friend I think, posted by colman on Mar 4, 2003

Well, if you go back and read his post it was obvious that he was pro Colombia and negative towards Brazil...anyone could see that.  10 days in Sao Paolo does not make one an expert but he certainly had strong opinions despite his short and rather sad stay.  I dont really care if anyone likes colombianas or brazilians better, but is best if the record is set straight to the masses (LOL) who lurk here.  As for the population figures, I didnt look them up, gave a rather haphazard guess, but it still works out roughly the same gap.  Woe is me..  My animal intentions are only at their most aroused state in Brazil as Im sure yours would be if you set foot there.....Dont know if you have or not, but I would bet good money that you would be a new man in two hours on the beaches of Recife or Fortaleza....Still, if he had a bad trip (as evidenced by his post in my opinion) then he would be in the vast minority....You show me a man who was not in wanderlust in Sao Paolo and i will show you a dead man.......

[colman]

... in response to Re: My friend I think, posted by Yalg on Mar 4, 2003

I stated that in my personal opinion I think Brazilians are more attractive than Colombians (by a hair) but physical beauty obviously is only part of the equation searching for a wife, using common sense I probably will understand a Colombiana better than a Brasilera--Colman

[Ralph]

... in response to Re: My friend I think, posted by Yalg on Mar 4, 2003

10 days in sao paulo and no luck? Damn near impossible. Unless one can not function without the "help" of an agency, or 24-7 translation!

[Onephd]

... in response to Bingo!, posted by Ralph on Mar 5, 2003

damn would you guys read the freaking post!!!

I met nice women there I had a decent time, but that doesn't mean its a great place to find a wife.

I have never used an agency and I speak decent portuguese.  

I understand that men get blasted when they post about other countries but come on, stop being so defensive.  

No one is talking about not having a good time partying. We know you can do that in Brazil.  The question was about why do we not have more men marrying Brazilian women.  Is Brazil conducive to a man finding a wife? What are the issues?  

Do you care to offer any insight to this question?

I remember when I was going to make my trip to Brazil I could not find any good trip reports and or hardly anyone that was looking for a wife in Brazil.  

A lot of people comment on how much fun they have in Brazil and how beautful certain parts of it are, but hardly anyone post about looking for a wife there.  Why is that?  Where do the men that go to Brazil in search of a wife post?  

Hook me up!!

[Yalg]

... in response to Re: Bingo!, posted by Onephd on Mar 5, 2003

You said you had a "decent" time in Brazil.  Dude, if thats the best you can do then you have other issues.  Sorry, but its not possible to go to SP and have a "decent" time if you are a single American man with anything going for you at all and who wants to meet women.  Sorry, but its just not possible.....

[Ralph]

... in response to Re: Bingo!, posted by Onephd on Mar 5, 2003

Many men that Marry women from Brazil do not go there "searching for a wife". They go on vacation or business etc. Something that is rare in Colombia. Be honest, who here would go to Colombia on vacation if not to look for a wife?

I mentioned in another post, that I personally know of 3 men married to women from Brazil. They don't post here, they didn't go searching for a wife etc etc etc. One has been married 15 years the second about 7, the last about 3.

How many men do you know outside of forums such as these that marry Colombaianas? I don't know of any. That is because unless one was "searching for a wife" or needed the agency help, one would never go to Colombia!

Have you ever felt that the harder you search for something, the harder it is to find it? I constantly see guys talking about agencys helping speed up the process, and it makes it easier to "search for a wife", except some of these guys have been traveling to Caolombia and usuing agencies for over 5 years. If you just travel to Brazil, Mexico, Dominican Republic, Peru etc etc etc, for 5 years, you'd have a great chance at meeting someone. The key is to make friends with the locals. In amny latin countries, brazil included, agencies are looked down upon, while being introduced by friends isn't.

I am not specifically speaking just to you, but we constantly read here about how Colombia has the most amount of successes etc. It is just silly. Obviously on a Forum devoted mostly to agency customers, the country with by far the most agencies would appear to have the most success. That is why I constantly ask how many men do you know, outside of  that married colombianas. Nobody has ever answered in the affirmative.

[Hiker]

... in response to I get to differ...., posted by Yalg on Mar 4, 2003

I am curious how many times you have been to Brazil and how many times to Colombia?  What agencies did you visit in Cali?

[Yalg]

... in response to Re: I get to differ...., posted by Hiker on Mar 4, 2003

Three times to Brazil visiting Recife, Salvador, and Parati......twice to Cali and once to bogota...in Bogota met women from different internet sites, found them to be more educated and sincere, less ready to leave Colombia than Calenas....In Cali met women at Latin Best, All Colombian girls, and many from internet sites, and just walking around and meeting them in different places...There is alot of pressure on women in Cali, and Colombia in general. I felt like the women in Brazil had no pressure, they love it there but would leave in a minute for love......

[Ralph]

... in response to Re: Re: I get to differ...., posted by Yalg on Mar 4, 2003

Who wants a woman that already decided she wants out? I want one that decides she wants me! My current Novia, is not at all thrilled with the idea of going to the states. She has a sister there, married to a gringo and she is not happy. My novia would of course go there to be with me, but would much rather I live in the DR, which is what I am currently doing. We have been living together for 6 months now. I am not sure I will stay here permanently, but if we decide to move to the US, we will
have experience living together and that will make things a bit easier.

[jim c]

... in response to Re: Re: I get to differ...., posted by Yalg on Mar 4, 2003

I am confused are you troy?