tour or not to tour?

[deatchef]

I would actually think it would be easier to find a girl on a non-tour week because there won't be as many "vultures" (no offense fellow latino searchers:) around..
Am i right?
Michael from Barranquillabeauties says that only women who live in Barranquilla come to the tours. Which means to me that it would be better because you can visit them in the days following the tour parties.
Tour weeks have lots more competition with the other guys, on non-tour dates you will not have to compete with many or any other guys.  
Am i wrong or right?

[LatinaLuvr]

... in response to tour or not to tour? , posted by deatchef on Jan 15, 2003

I would suggest going to Barranquilla on the tour dates.  It would be a mistake to wait untill the "party is over".  I used to feel how you did (that the guys are competition), but it really isn't so.  The more guys there are, the more girls there are.  Don't think of the guys as "competition."  The event brings in about 800 ladies, you can meet them, and date them in the proceeding weeks.  If you go after the event, the women may not know you are down there since the "party is over" and you will have to call each girl up individually.  I went down to Barranquilla in June of 2002 with Barranquilla Beauties and will be back in Barranquilla for Sam's February tour.

[deatchef]

... in response to Re: tour or not to tour? , posted by LatinaLuvr on Jan 15, 2003

good advice latinaluvr.I'm going to take it!
Anyone else going to BQ in the May-June tour time?
Jimgumbo... your doin the July tour right?

[Patrick]

... in response to tour or not to tour? , posted by deatchef on Jan 15, 2003

Have you had a change of heart, or were you always interested in both Asian and Latin women?

[deatchef]

... in response to Do we have a defector?, posted by Patrick on Jan 15, 2003

You could probably call me indecisive, but Not a "defector". At least i don't think i am. I don't even know what it means, but sounds like an accusation of some sort...It looks as if i will have to explain myself...
I was originally interested in Latin Women, then thought about going to the Philippines (yes I've always been attracted to both), now i'm back to LA Women... Is that OK?
Is that PL incorrect (Planet-Love incorrect)
I've seen it more than once here. Russian to Asian
Latin to Ukrainian etc....
No worries Mate
So can anyone answer the question that originated from this post?
Thanks

[pablo]

... in response to Re: Do we have a defector?, posted by deatchef on Jan 15, 2003

Depending on how much available time and money you have, I had good results with arriving one week ahead of a Bogotá tour, and staying one week after it.  My thoughts on getting there beforehand was to have extra time setting up interviews, choice of accommodations, knowing the staff better, and of course, more time with the ladies.  

There was an element of competition when the other men arrived, but there is also a certain camaraderie that develops, even potential friendships occurring with like minded men.  The events scheduled during the small tour I participated in brought in new ladies that were not in the books yet, ones that I had not considered, or just plain missed.  Sticking around until after the show allows more follow up with those ladies you are interested in and shows the women you take the quest seriously.  

Personally, a turnout of hundreds of ladies at one of these ILL sponsored events is not my cup of tea, no slam intended. Is this your first trip to Colombia?  Whatever method you use, we wish you all the best and do a trip report later.

P.S.  I don't think Patrick meant neither to label you nor to keep you confined to the Asian side of P-L.  He's probably having some fun.

[deatchef]

... in response to Re: Re: Do we have a defector?, posted by pablo on Jan 16, 2003

Thanks pablo and sorry to Patrick if i came off bitter...
I just had a long (15 hours in the kitchen) day and was feeling kinda "heated" (Pun very much intended)
Yes this will be my first trip and 2 of my good friends will be joining me, so it will be a vacation and a search (a search mostly 4 me and a vacation mostly 4 them)
I don't like to rush things and i'm not really into crowds even when the crowds are all beautiful latin women, but it seems as if tour time will be the time to go. I think your idea of going one week before and after is a good one, but i will not be able to swing it.
I think 2 days before and 5 days after to give me 2 full weeks will suffice my 1st time around.
I'm still a little confused as to whether or not i should pay an agency for the tour and stay at their facility, or get my own place and do my own searching. I mean there will be hundreds of women in town; why can't i meet them on my own??? Plus, like i said, we're also going for a vacation. Not just "the search" (that name isn't copyrighted is it?) LOL

[lswote]

... in response to non-defector here..., posted by deatchef on Jan 16, 2003

One thing wrong with "just meeting" the women in town is that you will find that most women might find it interesting to give a gringo some time, but ultimately won't be ready to make the step to marry a gringo and leave their country (despite what you hear about gold diggers, there really aren't that many).  The agencies will have women who have given consideration to marrying a foreigner and moving to another country.  If you are seriously looking for a latin wife, you don't want to waste your time with girls who aren't going to be serious.

[deatchef]

... in response to Another reason for agencies ..., posted by lswote on Jan 16, 2003

Good point, but It would take time either way. I don't plan on flying to Colombia to find a wife. I plan on making several visits and meeting several good girls and narrowing it down to where i have a relationship (long distance) for several months. And then possibly marrying.
This whole foreign bride thing is new to me, i have plenty of time to get to know the process without rushing into anything.
When i do finally marry, It WILL only be once.
Thanks for the advice.

[Pescador]

... in response to Re: Another reason for agencies ..., posted by deatchef on Jan 16, 2003

Hi deatchef,

I went to BQ last November on a tour out of curiosity sake, and found overall it was money that couldve been better spent to achieve the same goal. It was an experience and I made a few good contacts that I still keep in touch with so that was a plus. If you are a guy that cant speak any spanish then paying translators in a tour or agency is a good way to start. I speak conversational spanish and opted not to have a translator. Ironically I got in a double date and ended up translating for the other American guy I was with.

BQ women are fun  and I would recommend that you find some you like and take them out dancing. I want to return for Carnaval and now I know a couple gals to go back down and hang out with. I am pretty new at the dating latinas going on my second year only.

I really enjoyed Colombia and heading back pretty soon for a longer stay. Im also trying another approach to meeting Colombianas that worked for me in Costa Rica. Id say go on a tour just to experience it, but there are smarter and cheaper ways after you get to Colombia to meet Colombianas than a group tour.

[deatchef]

... in response to Re: Re: Another reason for agencies ..., posted by Pescador on Jan 16, 2003


Hi deatchef,

"Im also trying another approach to meeting Colombianas that worked for me in Costa Rica."
Pescador, please tell me what approach that is.

"Id say go on a tour just to experience it, but there are smarter and cheaper ways after you get to Colombia to meet Colombianas than a group tour."
Again, I'd love to hear the methods you would suggest...

Also you said, "found overall it was money that couldve been better spent to achieve the same goal."
How would you have better spent your money to achive that goal? What was your goal?
Thanks for the help,
Deatchef

[Pescador]

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Another reason for agencies ..., posted by deatchef on Jan 16, 2003

Hi dc,

Well what I am doing is not the normal or I havent heard of many  other guys that do this yet in meeting latinas but it worked for me once.

I went to Costa Rica the first time and knew a limited amount of Spanish and hooked up with this girl there who didnt speak any english. Communicating was frustrating at times and I decided from that point I was going to learn spanish. I went back to Costa Rica 3 months later enrolled in a Language school and took 4 weeks of spanish 4 hours a day. Most language schools teach both languages english and spanish. Guess who wants to learn english? Pretty latinas.

I met some really nice latinas from the english learning classes, they want you to help them practice english and you get to have them tutor you in spanish. Easy to learn about them and make dates meet thier friends etc. and in the process you get to learn their language which makes you even more attractive and you know they desire to learn english. Most schools will set you up in apartments, home stay or something too. I know it wont work for everyone but it works for me, I met some really nice women in Costa Rica. A note..women in costa rica will love you, but its a rare one that will leave costa rica, es paraiso.

True, the women are not there to meet foriegn guys for husbands, but already they are interested in you because you speak the language they have shown an interest in learning. In Costa Rica I had a blast met some nice women and I have learned spanish to boot. Dont kid yourself the latina woman you marry either needs to learn english or you spanish.

 What Id do on a second trip, is go when the big tour parties are. I stayed at the Hotel Puerta del Sol first time, thats where all the group tours go in BQ. It was interesting because there were two events going on at the same time TLC and the BQ beauties. There were plenty of women everywhere in the hotel lobby, mainly just to meet gringos as one told me. TLC told us that guys that were not part of the tour staying at the hotel trying to pick up women in the hotel would be kicked out. I cant believe they have any right to do that if you pay for a room its a public place not thier event and when there is two events going on whos to say you arent part of the other one? I met guys at the hotel that were not on the tour visiting girlfriends from past trips.

Id go  a few days early before the tours and stay after.  Join an agency if you dont speak spanish and want women that are serious about marrying. There was a language school in BQ where you could hire a latina translator to show you around, ask where the best discos to meet people etc. When the tours come translators prices go up and avalibility is less. Get there early you can get your own. Just call up the language school, in fact thats where the tours get thier translators. As I wrote before I felt lucky that I didnt need one. If you can speak spanish your odds are increased 10fold. If you can dance salsa or merengue too then you are golden. Im still in the long process of learning salsa. Its all in the hips, if it was in the shoulders Id be doing good.

Oh my goal was to meet quality latinas one on one, and develop a long term relationship for posible marriage.I have made some great contacts in BQ. Still searching but now casting my net out in Bogota.

The tour was fun overall, seeing all the women and meeting some good guys that went. Yet for the grand you could stay in that hotel for 2 weeks and meet women just the same. The most important way to meeting Colombianas is being in Colombia! Hope this was some help,

pescador

 

[deatchef]

... in response to A different approach, posted by Pescador on Jan 16, 2003

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