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Author Topic: Finally going to file!  (Read 5159 times)
Michael B
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« on: January 11, 2003, 05:00:00 AM »

You might have read my profile and/or said to yourself "Ol' Michael's been around for a long time, CLAIMING to be engaged, but it seems he never says anything about the progress of his lady's K-1 or talks about making arrangements to marry her in Colombia or whatever....why doesn't he get off the fence?" (Then again, maybe the thought never struck you, or you just don't care, hee hee hee). Well, anyway, here's the scoop:

Anybody know the difference between the Colombian documents "Seperacion de Cuerpos" and "Cesacion de los Efectos Civiles del Matrimonio Catolico"?  Just in case you don't (and to be honest, I didn't until I found out the hard way), the differences are:

1. From a translation standpoint: "Seperacion..." literaly translates "Seperation of bodies" and basicaly means "legal seperation", "Cesacion..." literaly translates "Cesation of the civil effects of the Catholic marriage" and actualy means "DIVORCE".

2. From an immigration standpoint: INS will NOT accept "Seperacion" as evidence that a previous marriage has terminated. They will accept "Cesacion". (I don't know if they make such a distinction in Colombia. Probably they do, otherwise why would they have two different documents?)

3. From a personal situation standpoint: Martha already HAD a "Seperacion" paper from her lasted less than 6 months 1976 marriage to Jose what's his name when she was just a teenager. Cost me $1000 in "legal fees" (using the term loosley, if you catch my drift) to GET her the "Cesacion".

Well, the "Cesacion" is final now (and I've actualy got a certified copy of in my hot little hands), so Monday I will put it to good use, i.e. we're FINALLY going to file for her K-1!!!

-------reflections:

Would I have taken up with her had I known from the start that was going to be a problem? Probably not. But by the time we found out that INS wouldn't accept her paperwork, we were already committed to each other. Now it's a done deal, we've finally got 'good papers'. OK, took a little longer, cost a little more....is she worth it? YES!

Are there plenty of women in Colombia WITHOUT ex-husbands, kids and legal problems?  Yes, of course, and I'm sure most of them are very nice, in fact I was involved with one of them before M., it "just didn't work out". Then I found M., who it just happens DOES have these problems. Yes, M. has 3 kids also, but not from that marriage, from a 20year plus "union libre" AFTER the marriage ended (thank God we didn't need paperwork on THAT one also!). Two of the children are adults, and we'll be getting a K-2 (and hopefully 'employment authorized', hey, I am NOT a millionare, ha ha) for the 17yo. We also hope to get a student visa for the 24yo sometime next year, she's just finished a master degree in engineering and is working on her PHD, when she finishes it would be great for her to come here and learn English. (From the age of the kids, you can see that neither of us are "spring chickens", I have a 20yo and a 16yo from my 16 year (divorced 5 years now) marriage with a Costa Rican)

Wow, this turned into a pretty long post...OK, tell me I'm the fool or tell me congradulations...which ever you think is appropriate.

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CaliBound
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« Reply #1 on: January 11, 2003, 05:00:00 AM »

... in response to Finally going to file!, posted by Michael B on Jan 11, 2003

Congratulations and Best Wishes ... Michael B.

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wizard
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« Reply #2 on: January 11, 2003, 05:00:00 AM »

... in response to Finally going to file!, posted by Michael B on Jan 11, 2003

Hey Michael,

I don't ANYONE here would call you a fool... We all pursue happiness by whatever means available to us... The bottom line is that if you and Martha are happy together, that's ALL that matters... If there are naysayers, tell them to take a hike...

Yeah, there are speed-bumps along the road to happiness... In the end these will seem relatively small in perspective to the big picture...

Hopefully one day I will follow you down this path... The information you posted is EXTREMELY relavent as we all have a past and we need to know the most expedient means to navigate the obstacles...

Thanks for the update...

Good luck in the future...

wizard

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Edge
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« Reply #3 on: January 11, 2003, 05:00:00 AM »

... in response to Finally going to file!, posted by Michael B on Jan 11, 2003

Let me be the first to congratulate you and M on your perserverence and not giving up.  I know you are devoted to her.  Keep up the good work and let me know if I can help you in your efforts.

Edge

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