american women vs latin women

[mck]

I never have really knocked American women, nor have have I had trouble finding American women, and I just got out of a one year relationship with an American women who was sweet, cute (but a little chubby) and all that stuff. She was a classic southern bell, 22 red head, smart, educated and everything but she was just not my cup of tea. We lived together for about 8 months. The main thing was I was not sexually sttracted to her. I hate to admit it but sexual attraction is important in a relationship.Just the thought of going down to another country and finding some gorgeous latin women and bringing them back with me and having a better chance at a successful relationship with then American woman excites me. That is why I am pursuing this venue. I mean yes I could meet a size 10-14 20 something ok looking American women and get married and all that stuff and have a decent relationship, but why bother when you can import the best in looks and personality from Latin America. I would rather have a size 4-6 then a 10-14. I always say the best women are imports, just like all the good sports cars.

[El Diablo]

... in response to american women vs latin women, posted by mck on Feb 17, 2002

I think your reasons for going South are at least honest and I respect that.  You've decided you can do better in the looks or attraction department in another country.  You're not knocking AW because you can't have what you want but rather have decided to go somewhere else and look.  

Are there not beautiful AW?  Well of course there are.  AW the world over are considered extremely beautiful. For example, I was walking at a large mall the other day near Stanford University and every where I turned,  the women were GORGEOUS, not unlike going to the mall in Cali and perhaps even better.   So what's the difference.  Well the difference is that when you see a beautiful and/or younger woman in Cali, you don't feel intimidated, you don't feel that she is out of reach.   But at the Stanford Mall I know the 25 or 30 year old honey is not even a possibility and so she becomes off radar so to speak.  What is left are women more my own age, my own education level and social status.  Hey the competition for the girls left on my radar here is pretty stiff and so Cali despite all the risks can be a pretty tempting alternative.  Hey I recognize that I'm just an average guy and I'm not blaming AW for me not being able to land a 30 year old honey here.  For myself, I recognize that going to Cali is a lot about moving up on the totem pole so to speak.  If there were plenty of younger beauties interested in me here in San Jose, trust me I wouldn't be traveling South.  

Anyway, I appreciate your honesty.  

El Diablo

[Tai]

... in response to Re: american women vs latin women, posted by El Diablo on Feb 17, 2002

El D,

I have been to that mall near Stanford, I think it is called Hillsdale(?). -And YES you will see some gorgeous women there.

True there are a lot of college-age honeys there in their early twenties that would perhaps generally be "off the radar" so to speak, but a woman of 30???

From your profile I see that you're only 39(?)...a woman of 30 doesn't strike me as a "candidate" to be deemed out of reach. -Perhaps you should recalibrate your "radar" to include them.

A recurring theme in your posts seems to be about your preference to date a woman here versus traveling so far(?). I have no problem with that, I mean it is the logical thing, right?

That being the case...you should focus your energies on finding a nice 30 year old AW. -It doesn't sound like an unreasonable goal...go for it!

-Tai

ps - Most of the 30 y/o women I know have a mate age range of 30-45.

[El Diablo]

... in response to Re: Re: american women vs latin women-  ..., posted by Tai on Feb 18, 2002

No the Hillsdale Mall is in San Mateo about 20 miles North of the mall I'm referring to.  The mall I went to is just called the Stanford Mall and it's in either Palo Alto or the incorporated area of Stanford itself.  From I280 it's off Sand Hill Road near the Stanford University Hospital and Medical Center.

Among my social circle here in the Bay Area, I've NEVER seen an age gap of 15 years between a guy and a gal. My best gringa friend here, Margaret dates younger guys as a matter of fact and all my male friends who are either married or have girl friends, the gap is minimal, maybe a couple of years at most.

Now to be fair, among some of the ethnic minority groups here in the Bay Area, I notice larger age gaps but even then I'm just not seeing the kind of gaps you are suggesting.  Perhaps you belong to one of these ethnic groups or socialize within them.

El Diablo

[Tai]

... in response to BTW, posted by El Diablo on Feb 18, 2002

Hillsdale name was the first name to pop into my head, but I know the "Stanford" mall that you are referring to. -I was once held hostage there for hours by two "crazed" shoppers.

Yes, I fall into one of those "ethnic minority groups". However my social circles are not limited, by any means, according to ethnicity.

My work takes me all over the bay area, and I regularly see 10-15 year age gaps and more among non-ethnic, inter-racial, and ethnic couples alike. Example; At a large environmental firm located in the pleasanton area there were AT LEAST ten men in their late 40's and early 50's who were married to women in their mid to late twenties. There was one marriage, where the man was 50 something and the woman was 23-25(latinos), another marriage where the man was 50 something married to a Thai woman of 35, but all the other couples that I'd seen were white men married to white women. -And these are not RICH men in most cases, generally comfortable; middle to upper middle class...and one of the guys(46) looked like a 6-4 version of Woody Allen. -His wife was VERY pretty, and 29 years old.

AND the 30 y/o women that I referred to previously are: 1)Italian/Irish, 2)Irish, 3)Greek, 4)English/German 5)Scottish

You write that among your social circle here in the bay area you've never seen a 15 year age gap. I'm not sure what the significance of that statement is from your perspective, but I am assuming that the statement is to be taken "as is" and that you are referring to your circle(friends) per se and not saying that you have never seen a 15 year age gap here in the Bay Area. -I hope that is not what you are saying.

Tai

ps - Just to be clear, this is not to try to "sell" you on pursuing an AW, just to address the issue of age "gaps" in the Bay Area from my experiences.

[El Diablo]

... in response to Re: Re: american women vs latin women-  ..., posted by Tai on Feb 18, 2002


Well as much as I hate to admit it I'm now 40 and 41 is fast approaching.    I think most guys would prefer to look in their own back-yard if what they were looking for were there and could be obtained.  In my case, Colombia is good hunting grounds but my reasons seem different than what I'm hearing in others' posts.    

Number one I'm looking for a Catholic woman who is free to marry in the Church.  The pool of available women who meet this standard is small and the competition is much much greater here in Silicon Valley believe me.  When a gringo travels to Colombia he finds a much larger pool of women who are interested in him.  We can argue about why this is so but I think most people recognize this as true.  Because there is a larger pool of interested women, you can get to know more women and hopefully establish compatibility and fall in love. The above reason is really the bottom line for me.

In general I don't think Colombian women are necessarily more attractive than AW.  On the other hand, it's clear to me that the Colombian women who are interested in me are more attractive than AW who are interested in me.  Again we can argue about why this is so but every guy who vacations in Cali realizes this his first day there.

While there are some cultural differences between Latin Women and AW,  when I lived in Cali I discovered that the culture is not nearly as traditional or conservative as I had imagined.   Out in the country side, it may be this way, but in the city, the culture is very similar to our own in terms of attidudes and beliefs.

El Diablo

[Tai]

... in response to american women vs latin women-  for El D..., posted by El Diablo on Feb 18, 2002

El D,

Your reasoning is understandable...as usual. I was just curious because of what I was reading as a recurrent theme in a couple of your recent posts.

I know all about the "competition" in Silicon Valley. My EX is a buyer for a software retailer in Santa Clara. She is 28, drop dead gorgeous, and was quite proud of the daily invitations she received from Lotus and Ferrari driving dot-commers.

There are a lot of good-looking women here in the states. -Any man that says that women here can't compare in terms of looks, must live in a cave.

However(IMO), the real factor is the higher concentration of beautiful women that you find in Latin America. Women that are considered of "average" looks in Colombia would be considered "good-looking" here(generally speaking). SO, one searching in Latin America would have a better opportunity to find a good-looking/beautiful woman that does not have the "I'm a 'catch' so you should kiss my @ss" mentality.

Now, there are some FINE Colombianas that have that princess mentality as well, that are just a notch less hardcore than their counterparts here...but overall, with the higher concentration of good-looking women in the Colombiana "pool" and the cultural differences, the odds of finding a nice/good one are stacked in your favor. -While I agree that there is a lot of "hype" surrounding the "traditional latina", I still find that there are clear and notable behavioral differences brought about by the cultural socialization in Latin America.

This is not to say that you can't find a good-looking AW, without a princess complex. But here in the Bay Area, THAT is a serious expedition.

Tai

ps - Have you ever gone to the Mercado theater(AMC 20) in Santa Clara on a warm Saturday or Sunday afternoon? Oh My God! Grab a seat in front of the theater, relax, and enjoy the sights....oh, and the theater is nice too.

[El Diablo]

... in response to Re: american women vs latin women-  for ..., posted by Tai on Feb 18, 2002

I was at the Mercado Saturday night.  My friend and I saw Collateral Damage.  I'm not a big Arnold fan but I wanted to see the Colombia connection.  The Mercado is a young peoples hang out for the local population in Santa Clara and SunnyVale.  The women are young and very pretty and are primarily Asian although you'll see a about every race and mix there.

Regarding age gaps, you had mentioned the 15 year gap and I was only commenting on what I've seen here in Silicon Valley.  I truthfully can't think of anyone I know personally in the Bay Area where the age gap is even close to 15 years other than Pete E.  (-:  The Catholic church that I attend is about 80 percent Filipino and when I first moved to the Bay Area 13 years ago many of the friends I made were from the young adult group that they had.  With time I've made friends in other places too but I'm just not seeing large age gaps.

El Diablo

[Tai]

... in response to american women vs latin women-  for El D..., posted by El Diablo on Feb 18, 2002

When I first saw the trailers for the movie(last summer) I cringed, because his movies play on stereotypes BIGTIME and I figured Colombia was about to take another "hit" in the eye.

The Colombia connection did make me slightly curious, but not enough to buy a ticket...the bulk of the trailer appeared as typical "Schwarzenegger formula", just in a different location. When in doubt...WFV(wait for video).
-Or Cable. lol

The times that I've been to the Mercado have always been on warm weekend afternoons. The racial mix always seemed pretty even overall...but I believe that some of that has to do with which movies are playing on a particular weekend.

"Moved" to the Bay Area? From where? You mean you're an import as well?...Say it ain't so, El D!!

I'm a California native....one of the rare few.

-Tai

[El Diablo]

... in response to Re:  About old "Arnie", posted by Tai on Feb 18, 2002


Hey Tai,

Yep an import I am but only from the great state of Oregon.  Half of the Oregonians I grew up with came from California anyway so the difference is small I think.

Yep I go to the Mercado about once a week.  Damm Tai, the Marcado is so heavily Asian I'm starting to wonder what you're smoking seeing all these evenly distributed races and 15 year old age gaps (grin).  I'll take photos next time...

Anyway, save your money and wait for the video.

El Diablo

[Tai]

... in response to About old "Arnie", posted by El Diablo on Feb 18, 2002

Well...

It's been a while now since I've gone to the Mercado, I've been checking out other theaters such as the Sony Metreon over in S.F. and the Imax in Dublin...so maybe the mix has changed somewhat. I'll have to make it a point to go to the Mercado and check it out again.

Now were you to say the Century in Union City...then I'd agree wholeheartedly. -There you will definitely find a 70-75 percent Asian demographic, predominantly Filipino.

As far as the age gaps...what I say, is of what I see, regularly.

An Oregonian eh? Our northern neighbor

Yes, a lot of Californians have moved up to Oregon as a result of the real estate prices here. -But for that very reason, (it seems) many Oregonians do not like Californians...the migration has driven the real estate prices up in Oregon as well, which is bad news for those already with a home because of the property taxes, and worse for those wanting to buy one.

Oregon police routinely find reasons to pull over vehicles with California plates. -A Californian in Oregon gets the equivalent of "Yankee, go home!"

Tai

ps - At the Imax theater in Dublin I have seen some age gaps and couples that made me think to myself..."Whoah, that's impressive, how did that happen?"

[Cali vet]

... in response to american women vs latin women-  for El D..., posted by El Diablo on Feb 18, 2002

That was one dumb movie. You could tell by the vehicals alone that it was filmed in Mexico. Too bad the makers had to blacken Colombia's name to give Arnold a new action venue. However they did get the geography right placing Mompos on the Magdelena.

[Tai]

... in response to Re:  american women vs latin women-  for..., posted by Cali vet on Feb 18, 2002

Schwarzenegger's knack for stereotyping is superceded only by his BAD acting.

[Cali vet]

... in response to Re: american women vs latin women-  for ..., posted by Tai on Feb 18, 2002

A comment on one part of your post. You guys must live in a "beauty bubble" out there in California. When I've been sight seeing at Chipichapi the day before then go to a St. Louis mall the day after the return flight I am stunned at the difference and want to turn right around and head back to the airport. There is just no comparison! I'm afraid we in the mid-west do live in a cave.

[Tai]

... in response to Cave life, posted by Cali vet on Feb 18, 2002

There are lots of "lookers" in California, and the Bay Area holds true to that; seems like any woman that was ever told "Hey you should be a model or an actress" is out here trying to break into the entertainment business, or "fishing" for a rich husband in Silicon Valley. lol

The "issue" is the crap you have to deal with in order to be with the "lookers" here.(Yes, this is a genralization, but I'm sticking to this one.)

Let me reiterate...the high concentration of beautiful women that you find in Colombia is unmatched, BUT there are lots of beautiful women here, and if you know when and where...there are some areas that you can go in the Bay Area where the concentration of "lookers" gets pretty darn high.

If you're going to approach them though, you'd better have your "mojo" working or plenty of @ss kissing compliments flowing....OR thick skin, 'cause it can get ugly in a hurry. lol

-Tai

California is the "sunshine" state, but more accurately in regards to the good-looking women here, it's the "blow sunshine up my @ss" state.