A Better Option for Brazil

[MarkInTx]

For those of you who haven't bought tickets to Colombia yet...

I found yet another agency in Brazil

Everyone knows about BrazilGirls -- great site if all you want to do is look at pictures and stare.... not so hot if you are wanting to actually MEET someone, though.

BrazilRomance is a better site... but a very small selection of ladies. I wanted to have them help me set up some appointments while I was there, and they wanted $50 per date, even if I provided the lady's contact information. In Russia, they'll do it for $15 per meeting. Cali is what... $100 a day, something like that? So, $50 for a simple meeting seemed really high.

I ran into a new site: www.firepassion.com

They have a pretty good selection of ladies, but better yet they have been very good about answering questions and trying to asssist me on my trip. And, they have an "office" in Sao Paulo. (BrazilGirls has an "office" in Miami... and they can't do you anything more than simply sell you addresses.)

So far, so good. I will let you know what my final experience is with Fire & Passion, but so far they have been very forthright, and I am optimistic...

[MarkInTx]

... in response to A Better Option for Brazil, posted by MarkInTx on Feb 17, 2002

Well, I was hoping to report that I had finally found a good agency in Brazil.

No such luck.

I will say this again one time:

NO ONE IN BRAZIL HAS A CLUE ABOUT HOW TO RUN A GOOD AGENCY!

And they don't want to learn, either. I have never met such a group of proud and arrogant "agency owners" who weren't willing to help AT ALL! BrazilianRomance wants $100 PER MEETING to set up meetings with a lady. You would think, then, that their women were supermodels or something...but no such thing. Look at their site!!! Just TRY and find THREE women who you would want to meet.  AAARRRGH!

Can you tell I am frustrated?

Now I know why everyone goes to Colombia...

OK... Looks like here's the deal:

You go to BrazilGrils. They are a lousy agency, but a good catalog. Just know what you're getting.

Buy 100 names. At least they give quantity discounts.

Write the ones that are in the geographic area you are interested in. Narrow it down, and go. You're on your own. There is no agency to help you.

Good news: It's actually pretty cheap. Even with the purchase of 100 names, you're not paying much. No agency fees on top of it. And, American has direct flights there from DFW (which for me is great!)

Bad news, you need to plan in advance. It takes a few weeks to get a letter to Brazil and back. Also, as I mentioned before, the ladies get LOTS of letters.

My good news: I have a lady who I am so interested in, I would go down there just to meet her, anyway. To he!l with the agencies!

Oh... she was listed on BrazilGirls, in case anyone was interested.

If I were in a hurry, and I didn't have my trip paid for me, I think I would skip Brazil.

I just can't believe that NO ONE has set up a good agency there yet.

If I do marry a Brazilian, I think I'll finance someone in her family to start one....

[Hoda]

... in response to Forget it... they're just as bad, posted by MarkInTx on Feb 18, 2002


They're crazier than all of out doors!!!! There must be a $90 rebate included. Check the ity bity fine print! It's gotta be there....(LOL)

[MarkInTx]

... in response to $100 A POP?, posted by Hoda on Feb 19, 2002

$90 rebate? Sure...

But the lady probaby gets it. Or maybe they split it 50/50... who knows?

I'm not making it up. Go to their website. They're so proud of that price that THEY POST IT!

Funny thing... Solange... the person who runs the agency, thought that by referencing that figure, I would come to my senses. Because they were offering me the "deal" of doing it for $50 per meeting.

Amazing...

I told them that if they can get $100 per meeting to go right ahead. But they won't get it from me.

What kills me is... no one is paying that.... right? I mean... please tell me that no man is stupid enough to do that...

If not... you would think that they would change their pricing... but, hey, that's just me...

[Hoda]

... in response to Rebate... yeah... probably..., posted by MarkInTx on Feb 19, 2002


$100 bucks FOR A INTRO!!!!! They deserve a "BEAT-DOWN" with a "HEY-STUPID-STICK"....(LMAO)! But seriously Bro, have they found "anyone" willing to pay that kind of dough, for the err, ahem.....beauties on their site? Some people got more money than brains....

[Michael B]

... in response to If someone is paying...., posted by Hoda on Feb 19, 2002

Yesterday, on one of the free sites, in response to a profile that said I was looking for a "mature, educated, latina, perfer a triguena" I got an email from a 22yo Russian woman, complete with white skin and yellow hair, pictures included....biggest set of ... well, let's just say they were both about to fall out of that night gown she's almost wearing. She had "carefully studied my profile" and she just KNEW that we would be a very good match etc. etc.....anyway, she wanted to get real serious, real fast and guess what? She actualy PERFERS men my age (I'm 51)....yeah, what ever....oh, only one minor problem, you have to PAY $64 to join her agency before you can answer her email. (The poor little thing doesn't have her own computer and has to have them send and receive all her email, so she says.)

Say, what you bet if I forward her pics and intro letter to some guys on the Russian board that she might get some takers?

[MarkInTx]

... in response to If someone is paying...., posted by Hoda on Feb 19, 2002

I can't imagine anyone paying $100 per meeting. Especially since they make it clear that they are only doing the introductions. The lady might not even stay for Dinner!!!

I get the sense that no one really is trying in Brazil.

I don't know why... But there is a vacuum there that SOMEONE ought to fill...

[Hoda]

... in response to I don't know of any, posted by MarkInTx on Feb 20, 2002


there just not using these so-called agencies. I know a crew of guys, who are in Brazil right now. They're spending some time in Rio for carnival, in addition to visiting a few other cities in Brazil. The SOB's are having so much fun, they almost forgot to report what's happening...(LOL).
From their early reports....CARNIVAL IS OFF THE HOOK!!!!

They report that the women are fine, with skin, eye & hair combinations for all taste. The quest is completely different in Brazil, as opposed to Colombia. In Brazil, you're pretty much on your own. No check that "YOU ARE ON YOUR OWN". "Abrutha" who post here & who has visited Brazil a number of times, has posted his observations on the social scene there. ANYONE going to Brazil should definitely read his post, before going.

[MarkInTx]

... in response to There're guys trying....., posted by Hoda on Feb 20, 2002

Yep,

That's pretty much it.

From what I have gathered:

On the plus side:

Brazilian women are freindly, and approachable.

On the minus side:

They need to be, cause no one is gonna introduce you

I'll post my trip report when I get back... Promise.

I also promise that there is no way possible that I will be on the computer posting reports when I am in Brazil :-)

[Pete E]

... in response to A Better Option for Brazil, posted by MarkInTx on Feb 17, 2002

I think the owners of Fire and Passion,Brian and Chrissy,live in southern California.I don't know how often they are in Brazil or who staffs the Sao Paulo office.It seems like a very part time operation.I have never heard any feedback from anyone who has actuially used them.

Pete

[MarkInTx]

... in response to Re: A Better Option for Brazil, posted by Pete E on Feb 18, 2002

Read my other post.

They are just like the rest of them...

[deatchef]

... in response to A Better Option for Brazil, posted by MarkInTx on Feb 17, 2002

Porto Alegre, Rio de janeiro, Sao Paulo, Salvador, Belo Horizonte....
or more North?

[MarkInTx]

... in response to Re: Where would be the best place to go ..., posted by deatchef on Feb 17, 2002

From what little I know...

Sao Paulo is "New York" in Brazil, so the women there have a tendency to be more educated, and have better access to the internet, etc, etc. They also have adopted a more "modern" approach to life in general...

North, the women will probably not speak English as much, but they will be more "traditional", and will have seen fewer Gringos.

The lady I am going to see in Sao Paulo laughed when I told her that I would stick out in Brazil. She told me: "Not until you talk. In Sao Paulo it is a melting pot. In Brasilia, you would stick out."

So, it is all, really a matter of taste.

If you wish to have a letter-writing correspondance followed by a trip to meet "just one" -- but at the same time, have very little competition... then Northern Brazil is probably your best bet.

If you like to have a lot of exchanges via email... then you need to stick near the major cities, as a rule.

BTW, the guys at firepassion.com got a huge kick out of my question: "How far is too far?" when trying to decide what women to write to.

Their response was: "You're going to travel 7000 miles to meet a woman, and then worry if one of them is too far? WHat is too far when you've already travelled 7000 miles?"

They have a valid point...

[deatchef]

... in response to Opinion's Vary -- what're you interested..., posted by MarkInTx on Feb 18, 2002

I would like to correspond with a few ladies (preferably in the same area) and then meet them. I understand that i would have a better chance at meeting a less materialistic, woman that would be more willing to leave the country to start a life of better quality for her and her children in the North Eastern Part of Brasil, but the selection seems slim...
I would rather have more selection because I'm sure out of 20-30 picks it would only narrow down to 2-3. Are these women of Sao Paulo, and Porto Alegre who have good lives and caerers, willing to leave there beautiful country?
If i were less interested in DarkerColored Women would I be better of South?

[MarkInTx]

... in response to Re: Opinion's Vary -- what're you intere..., posted by deatchef on Feb 18, 2002

Are the women with good careers willing to leave them?

Who knows? I don't think they know.

My impression is that the women of Brazil are much less "desperate" and will only be willing to leave for the right guy.

That is part of what attracts me to them.

They do, however, still dream of a romantic man. The theme (from the women who are on the agencys) seems to be she wants a man who is not so in love with his own machismo, and who will love her and treat her with respect...

For the approach you want to take (which is very similar to the one I would take) stick with a major city and write several, then go over to meet them.

South Brazil is going to have all kinds of women.

If you decide to go the BrazilGirls.com route, then go through the catalog, and buy 100 names. Of those maybe 20 will be from the areas you want. (No, they don't list the areas before you buy the names!)

Write to these and from 100 to start with, you'll probably only have 6-8 in the end.

Be aware though that the pretty ones are flooded with letters. The one lady that I am going to see tells me that every day she gets 10-15 letters. So, be prepared to wait for your initial responses.

Firepassion.com is running a tour/social in April I think. You might consider that.

BTW, if you want to, you can let me know what your parameters are, and if I already have addresses that match, I can send them to you.