FILIPINAS ACCEPTING DIVORCED MEN

[tpdtom]

hi all...hope you all had a nice thanksgiving . i for one am grateful to live in the land of the free , the greatest country on earth among many other things . i'm grateful to patrick for the maintenance of this site , which provides so much critical info to all of us admirers of foreign women . i'm a constant reader albeit an infrequent poster .

i've never been married yet so this question doesn't directly apply to me , although i'm planning a trip to the phils early in 2003 and trying to judge a womans sincerity is crucial . the very nature of the letter writing process revolves around getting a feel for someones honesty etc. how forthright a person is may determine if you continue to write to her .

one huge reason for my interest in filipinas was because i'm catholic . a practicing catholic . that means that in most cases we can't marry a divorced person who doesn't have an anullment and continue to receive the sacraments . that basically means that we are out of the church for all practical purposes . i'm not trying to pose a theological question , and i know this might spark some derogatory remarks about the catholic religion , but it's actually my trying to understand the mind of the filipina .

while many filipinas say they are catholic , and even attend mass weekly , say the rosary , and remain virgins into their 30s and further , most if asked on a MOB website will say that they will accept a divorced man with or without kids . this is entirely inconsistent with the practice of their faith . i wonder if finding a foreign husband is that compelling or if those women were wavering in their beliefs anyway . i know the many non-catholics on the board might take a dim view of this but i will pose the question regardless . i'm soliciting an answer from someone who has a well rounded understanding of the situation . i hope i haven't offended anyone but that might  not be stimulating . God bless you all...tom

[Febtember]

... in response to FILIPINAS ACCEPTING DIVORCED MEN, posted by tpdtom on Nov 29, 2002

Hi Tom,
Very nice post.I believe that the filipinas who married divorce man are only thinking about worldly things and a richer lifestyle,and don't want to think about the next life.I know personally several filipinas who were going to marry the wrong man,and I let them know that they were,and yet they went ahead and married them anyway because they just wanted to get to america.
You should look for a traditional catholic filipina who would not accept a divorced man.I would never accept a divorced man for my husband,and any good practicing catholic filipina never would either.
As far as getting married here in U.S,I took marriage classes in philippines while my future husband took his marriage class in U.S.We were able to get married two months after my arrival here.It was my dream wedding come true.
Wish you can find a good practicing catholic filipina in the future.Most filipinas are catholic in name only.

Raquel

[Mita]

... in response to Re: FILIPINAS ACCEPTING DIVORCED MEN, posted by Febtember on Nov 30, 2002

I beg to disagree.  I married a divorced man and NO, I didn't want to come to America.  I married the man because he was perfect for me, we are very happy and there have been no regrets.  
At the moment I cannot participate in Catholic rites because it is required that my husband obtains a CAtholic annulment of his first marriage. In the CAtholic Church's eyes, we are living in sin.  But, we are married and I feel married.
He is not Catholic but our Church recognizes Christian marriages.  After we obtain that we can then get married in Catholic ceremonies.  It is a temporary situation that can be corrected with a little patience.
Being a good Catholic, Christian, Muslim or person is not another person's judgement call.

[SJ]

... in response to Re: FILIPINAS ACCEPTING DIVORCED MEN, posted by Febtember on Nov 30, 2002

You wrote    "I believe that the filipinas who married divorce man are only thinking about worldly things and a richer lifestyle,and don't want to think about the next life"  Isn't that an odd statement, coming from someone who was selling Haines underwear, about ready to become a nun, but instead, instantly fell in love with a photo and short bio in a penpal magazine? You were going to give your life to God and vow a life of poverty, but instead you chose worldly things and a richer lifestyle....hhmm.  
    "I know personally several filipinas who were going to marry the wrong man,and I let them know that they were,and yet they went ahead and married them anyway because they just wanted to get to america." Sounds like many people gave you the same advice. Did YOU listen??
   I am divorced, my wife is strong in her faith and beliefs. Both she and I found your generalized comments VERY insulting.

[Howard]

... in response to Re: FILIPINAS ACCEPTING DIVORCED MEN, posted by Febtember on Nov 30, 2002

I think you need to go back and re-read your post. NOT all Filipinas who choose to marry a divorce man is only after of going out of  OUR country PI. Besides is it always the guys fault if the first marriage didn't work out?  What if they're only a victim doesn't they have the right to be happy the second time around? You've been here for a long time and have witnessed some posters here who suffered emotionally, did everything they could to save a marriage but doesn't work out, don't they have the right to move on?

I am into a relationship with an annulled guy (it's you H  ) but I am not using him to go out into poverty. My conscience doesn't bother me at all. I do have a very good night sleep everynight.

Gerlie

[Matthew]

... in response to Yiiiiiiiikkkkkkkkkkeeeeeeeeeeesssssss......, posted by Howard on Dec 2, 2002

Your right Gerlie.I would have liked to have stayed married
but my wife ran off with my best friend.I still miss HIM!LOL

Anyway, I spoke to God and he said I get a special dispensation cause it wasn't really my fault.He told me to just do the next right thing,help others and treat people like I would like to be treated.He told me I'm still a Catholic.He even sent me an angel named Joy.Life is good.

tito Matt
(recovering Catholic)

[Dave H]

... in response to Re: Yiiiiiiiikkkkkkkkkkeeeeeeeeeeessssss..., posted by Matthew on Dec 2, 2002

Hi Matt,

I know how you feel, my ex ran off with my horse and new pick-up. ( Glad to hear that everything is going well. We actually had a pleasant experience at the AOS interview several weeks ago. Everyone was nice, even the Arab guy who thought I was his lawyer. )

Dave H.

[shadow]

... in response to ROFLMAO!, posted by Dave H on Dec 2, 2002

Long before I ever went to the PI, my GF left me for an OLDER WOMAN!!!  

Larry.

[Matthew]

... in response to ROFLMAO!, posted by Dave H on Dec 2, 2002

Glad the AOS went good for you.I got into a minor fracas with a security guard there.Guy starts asking me (in heavily Spanish accented English)"Can you read...can you read?Don't you read?"I said "you can't be talking to me...You're not talking to me that way.Are you?You can't be talking to me!!!Are YOU talkin to ME!"Joy was cringing.For my effort we got put in a seperate waiting area.A time out I guess:)Oh well, can't fight the INS.Even the low life security guards.

Malaygayang Pasko!!!(sp?)

tito Matt

[Dave H]

... in response to Hey Dave, posted by Matthew on Dec 3, 2002

Hey Matt,

It sounds like they lived up to their reputation during your visit. The only problem we had (This Time!) was with security at the entrance. They were so slow "TRYING" to read people's paperwork, that all of the personal items backed up going through the X-ray machine. Baskets and folders started falling off the end and dumping all over the floor. The person operating the machine didn't seem to care...probably a former Domino's employee (at least it wasn't my pizza). I was pissed and made a few choice comments, which probably went uninterpreted. Finally, one guy with an IQ above 40 went over and pushed the stop button. I think I recovered most of our stuff...and maybe a little more. LOL

Dave H.

[Jimbo]

... in response to Re: FILIPINAS ACCEPTING DIVORCED MEN, posted by Febtember on Nov 30, 2002

Everyone has his/her own prejudices.  You've got a right to your opinions on divorced men and Catholic filipinas, but this board has a lot of good divorced men so those opinions are not going to be well received.

Too bad... another "Queen of the Board" goes down in flames )

Jim

[Jimbo]

... in response to Well Feb,, posted by Jimbo on Dec 2, 2002

I don't know what came over me.  I think I was trying to break the addiction.  Without any good 'Velocoraptor'-type posts I thought I stood a chance :-)))

Off to the PI soon!  I'll drop by from Paradise!

BTW, liked those Walter Williams articles - some great lines:

"If left to their own devices, people's natural tendency is to truck and barter, and become capitalists."

"Once again, it's that same old tune: Governments are not only the enemy of personal liberty but economic prosperity, as well."

Jim

[Dave H]

... in response to Thanks guys, posted by Jimbo on Dec 2, 2002

Hi Jimbo,

Welcome back! Everyone is coming out of retirement. I wonder if the Rhode Island Ripper will be next? LOL

I really enjoy Walter Williams myself. I met Kevin Nash (pro wrestler - 6'11") the other day when I was buying CDs...still no Rush. (

Dave H.

[Jimbo]

... in response to Homecoming Week..., posted by Dave H on Dec 2, 2002

Hi Dave, thank you,

Home is where the Ripper plants his butt.  Let's hope he realizes that :-)))  One good gold digging incident is all we need to bring him back.  Then... like a band of rippers targeting on an injured gold digger struggling to get a green card, he'll pounce! :-)))

Jim

[Dave H]

... in response to Re: Homecoming Week..., posted by Jimbo on Dec 2, 2002

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