venting

[SteveB]

... in response to Re: Why . . ., posted by Jay on Sep 6, 2002

Good post Jay,,,I agree Kevin's hurt is festering....

Steveb

[Zebson]

... in response to Re: Why . . ., posted by Jay on Sep 6, 2002

I have to agree with most of what Jay is saying here. As for me Jay, the emotional crap thing is not so much emotional in that context, as just realizing the capacity of not wanting to commit in marriage and give up my independance, and doing things my way. And the longer your in a relationship with someone you can feel it approaching in it's intensity of decreasing your freedoms. Some people give in easier and have less fear than others allowing giving up single life,aka; marriage. I have no problem in admitting that was one of the main factors related to my exit stage left's at times, regarding Helen. And naturally what Filipina, is going to believe that you need time to think about the relationship on your own, without the thought that your just going to be with another woman, especially when lack of integrity in relationships seems to play a major factor in Philippines families. I must admit for all the times that I have screwed and messed around with other women, those times I left Helen for all the irony in it, I never actually went and had another women. But for all intensive purposes my good intentions or behavior was a mute issue, to her all she could see was that I left her.

Anyway, mostly I wanted to point out the truth behind what I think Jay is relating also Kevin, is that at some point you have to begin to trust again if your going to build any type of substantially worth while relationship, regardless of what kind of Sh!t you have been through. Sure I was angry and hated Helen for a while, sure I didn't understand her behavior, but hey it's all over. Guilt sure I felt it, not so much now cause I let it go. As I have gotten older I am really trying to despence of the some of that retalitory anger that I used to have, cause it gets me no where. And especially I honestly think if your going to continue trying to find that soulmate with a Filipina you have to also see each person as unique. And sure sometimes that may take a long long time, but it doesn't help when you reinforce it with seeds of anger and resentment either subtley or not so, over the long haul it will tear you apart inside if you don't let go..I am no expert, but I do know that much.

Zeb

[Ray]

... in response to At some point....., posted by Zebson on Sep 6, 2002

:-)

[Jay]

... in response to At some point....., posted by Zebson on Sep 6, 2002

"to her all she could see was that I left her."

Hi Zeb,

 I know what you mean about "decreasing your freedoms" and the feelings that can go with it. Your line above is what I meant by "it won't fly" or that "it will make them nutty". You said it best.

Also, you got my post EXACTLY. Your last line says it all. Thanks for your understanding. I hope kevin will get it.

Jay

[Zebson]

... in response to Re: At some point....., posted by Jay on Sep 6, 2002

Jay, received your email, but for some reason my hotmail email was returned to me after trying to reply to yours, Don't quite know whats wrong. Could you resend a note to me in my email again and I will try again..Thanks

Zeb

[Jay]

... in response to Jay, posted by Zebson on Sep 6, 2002

Hi Zeb,

You can reply to jsgershom@aol.com. That should work better. That military.com mail sometimes is screwy.

Jay

[MsDuong]

... in response to venting, posted by kevin on Sep 7, 2002

Thai has a chance to get a ticket to fly on Sept. 11 very cheap. I threw a fit and said NO WAY!! If he was'nt flying from a coastal state, I don't think I'd be too concerned.

So anyways, this means he'll be home on the 15th. I can't wait. He needs a spanking real bad and I'm in the mood to gi9ve it ;-)

[Jeff S]

... in response to Am I too Paranoid?, posted by MsDuong on Sep 5, 2002

Glad to hear you two will be reunited soon. I wouldn't worry too much about the 9/11 flight, but a if couple more days makes you feel better, that's OK too.

Start warming up your spankin' hand. I hear hitting hot sand, like the karate training regimen, will let you get some power behind those smacks! =8oO

-- Jeff S.

[Stephen]

... in response to Am I too Paranoid?, posted by MsDuong on Sep 5, 2002

sadf

[Stephen]

... in response to venting, posted by kevin on Sep 7, 2002

Okay...here's my idea.

We need to have a reunion week.

We have all the folks who have been here in the last 5 years to visit for one week.  I mean all the folks who have been banned will be allowed to come back for just one week and we'll have a glory hallelujah pig wrestling contest.

We'll have Hound Dog, Harry, Max, LarryS, CC, etc.  We'll have Jean and Hum squaring off.  Thank about that.  WHAT A WEEK.

It could begin at midnight on Sumday and end the next Sunday night.  One week of pure cyber-terrorism on the Asian Board.

It's a great idea.  The only reason Patrick may not allow it is because he's jealous that he didn't think of it first.  LOL

Stephen

[Jimbo]

... in response to Reunion Week, posted by Stephen on Sep 5, 2002

Stephen,

You're sick! ---but I like the idea :O)  Don't forget Westerngrrl and Asian Girl.

Make sure Ray isn't on vacation that week, otherwise we're going to know what it felt like at Little Big Horn, Dien Bien Phu or Lang Vei! ..."Skipper we got TANKS in the wire!"
Then again, Ray might blow a gasket with all those trolls -LOL

Jim

[kevin]

... in response to Reunion Week, posted by Stephen on Sep 5, 2002


of the pinoy trolls too?  I remember this dude Fernando and a Suzanne.

- Kevin

[Dave H]

... in response to Remember the days . . ., posted by kevin on Sep 5, 2002

Let's see if we can get Middle Eastern Girl to post a live play by play of the Allied invasion, from her home in Iraq next Wednesday. Whoops...did I just give away the date of the attack. )

Dave H.

[Stephen]

... in response to venting, posted by kevin on Sep 7, 2002

Federal Aviation Agency
800 Independence Avenue SW
Washington DC 20591

Dear Sirs:

I have the solution for the prevention of hijackings, and at the same time getting our airline industry back on its feet. Since men of the Muslim religion are not allowed to look at naked women we should replace all of our female flight attendants with strippers.

Muslims would be afraid to get on the planes for fear of seeing such a woman and of course, every businessman in this country would start flying again in hope of seeing such a woman.

We would have no more hijackings, and the airline industry would have record sales. Now why didn't Bush think of this? Why do I still have to do everything myself?

Sincerely,

Bill Clinton

[Dave H]

... in response to venting, posted by kevin on Sep 7, 2002

What is "advice" any way? Acording to Webster:

"ad·vice
Pronunciation: &d-'vIs
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English, from Middle French avis opinion, probably from the phrase ce m'est a vis that appears to me, part translation of Latin mihi visum est it seemed so to me, I decided
Date: 14th century
1 : recommendation regarding a decision or course of conduct : COUNSEL
2 : information or notice given -- usually used in plural
3 : an official notice concerning a business transaction"

I think as "advice" is given on P-L, the first definition fits best. "A "recommendation" regarding a decision or course of conduct." Most people mean well. People's "advice" is usually based on their experiences and/or knowlege. It is an "opinion," not a "command" for someone to follow. The person seeking "advice" is free to make their own decision, to accept or discard the advice given and is ultimately responsible for their own actions. There is usually more than one point of view on P-L. The seeker has several options to consider, if they so CHOOSE to do so. All "advice" on P-L is FREE! So remember, you get what you pay for.

Dave H.