venting

[Bear]

... in response to Re: Re: DUDE!??, posted by Zebson on Sep 7, 2002

Like I said I would have done the same, just not that way.  But all the stuff leading up to it - dude you stink.  Get help.

Bear and Honey

[Jay]

... in response to Re: Re: Re: DUDE!??, posted by Bear on Sep 7, 2002

Art,

You sucker! Unless you were a gossipy little, "21 yr. old, spoiled rotton by her husband Filipina", before you met Marrissa, this has got to be her making you act this way. I've seen a thousand just like ya, boy. Is she chewing your ear off with this nonsense? I'll bet she is. Got you all wired up. Got you defending a cheating Filipina. Making a fool of your self. I'll bet she wasn't satisfied with your reply to my post, and my reply to her's. Still want's you to stick up for her friend. Got you thinkin' it was your idea. THAT'S what's scary about Filipina's, thay can manipulate the HELL out o' ya! Anyone of 'em, if your a SUCKER! I'm sure you'll say this is all you, but I KNOW better. ROTFLMAO AT YOU!!! FOOL!

When you posted about your little Fil-Am group in Houston, I like to died! Reason being, I said to myself when you got Marrissa here, "Lord, I hope he doesn't run into the stateside commando's". Well, ya walked right into it! Funny thing is, your LOVIN' it! You just haven't got a clue, BOY!!

Remember, I lived in Houston too. I'll bet we even know a couple of the same people.

You think you got yourself a winner and guys like your good buddy Howard, just weren't smart enough, don't you? You didn't say that but, Oh, I KNOW I'm right. I've seen your type before, ol' Hoss. Your what a Filipina Goldigger dreams of.

You need to check yourself quick! You better hope Marrissa doesn't like "party,party" too much, 'cause if she do, after that kid is born, your in for a nightmare! I just got through witnessing it up close with other couples in Houston. From all you have ever said of Marrissa, I've seen her type too. Many times. Ever wonder that her friend's were Vivian and Helen? Bet you believe they weren't friend's, right! LOL! Oh, Boy!

Let me cut you off at the pass. It's true, I was a drunk,  am an ex con, and my wife worked in a bar in Angeles. That's about all you could have insulted me with, so now it won't pizz me off when you say it.

Leave Zeb the hell alone! As thing's stand now, you ain't worthy to hold any priesthood. Even a Mormon one.

Jay

[kevin]

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Re: DUDE!??, posted by Jay on Sep 8, 2002


is that I agree with you.  Bear had just better pray that Marissa stays the same after she gets that Legal Permanent Residence card.  Because if she's anything other than a good faith woman, he's in unthinkable trouble.

Bear is naive and trusting.  That's why he beleived Helen's "innocense".  Once upon a time my ex-wife used to praise me about how fortunate she was to marry a "nice guy foreigner" like myself.  After all, so many tales circulate in the Philippines about how bad Americans and other white men are because they "import Filipinas" and kill them to collect on life insurance policies.  Then the tales of body parts being dumped on the side of a highway.  I have yet to learn of such a thing really happening.  Frankly, I think it's a generally accepted alibi for those gals in the Philippines contemplating marriage to "G.I. Joes" for less than honorable reasons.  I have a friend, married to a pinay long term, who told me that most of such gory tales route to bizarre tactics that subversive pinays tried to pull and the jilted "lovers" reacted adversely.  On the other side of the coin, if I tried to sleep with another man's wife, whom I found to be very beautiful, and I succeeded at it, my body might be found in the street mutilated into pieces.  I know better than to court a married woman and ruin another man's life shall I want to live.

Well, as a vet from the Air Force drilled into me (my mechanic, a trusted mechanic) you think Filipinos are nice, warm and hospitable people.  But he emphasized "That's what you think."  He tried to impart on me that Filipinos are crafty materminds, lie, cheat and cannot be trusted.  He was in the Philippines in the early 1970's.  His ex-wife was a Filipina and two-timed him big time.  He's a mechanic who owns his shop who lives near me.  Mechanics are another group of people that generally can not be trusted.  But this guy is a local mechanic where mutual trust was built over time because of shared personal adversities.  He told me after the divorce when inquiring about finding a good Filipina; his reaction:  "Kevin, THEY'RE ALL LIKE THAT!  Go White instead of Brown!".  My only problem with that is that I'm far more attracted to Filipina women than I am to any white-skinned woman.  This guy's second wife is white; a dark skinned southern-European looking woman.

- Kevin

[Jay]

... in response to My gut instinct . . ., posted by kevin on Sep 8, 2002

Hi Kevin,

I said,

"THAT'S what's scary about Filipina's, thay can manipulate the HELL out o' ya! Anyone of 'em, if your a SUCKER!"

That's not nesessarily a bad thing. I find it kind of challenging. And with Criselda it's even a bit sexy to me.

Maybe I should have said, they are very "seductive".

Jay

[Jay]

... in response to My gut instinct . . ., posted by kevin on Sep 8, 2002

Hi kevin,

Bear is not "naive and trusting", he's the kind of guy who think's he's smarter than all his fellow's. THAT'S why he is an easy mark. His own ego get's him in trouble.

Jay

[Zebson]

... in response to Ya know, posted by Bear on Sep 6, 2002

I don't know where all that extra BS came from, but I know when I hear it heaped upon like a buffet one after the other. I have already admitted the faults I made regarding Helen. But now it's becoming really ballooned. However, what you and honey choose to relate extra, was a lot of extra force fed additives. But I am going to quit trying to refute anymore it's pointlees. This could go on and on.

What miffed me enough to even make me want to comment, was the one about me cussing out Helens family or parents WOW!!! Now that's a new angle on revenge, I am sure will stir everyone up..Please none of that extra stuff rings true. Either that or maybe I lived my life in dilussions. Ok, I am done. Believe what you wish.

Zeb

[Jay]

... in response to Bogus..., posted by Zebson on Sep 6, 2002

Hey Zeb,

Don't sweat this man. He's got it all figured out.

So much for the Spirit of Texas!

Jay

[Ray]

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Re: Why . . ., posted by kevin on Sep 6, 2002

Kevin, nobody is trying to shoot you down or use you for a psychological plaything.

Jay didn’t say that no good Filipina would ever want to go out with you if given the opportunity. I believe what he was trying to tell you is that the ones who have been reading your messages here would probably not be interested. Why? Because of the hatred that comes through load and clear in some of your posts. For example, it seems that you are harboring a deep hatred for Zeb’s “ex” (whom you don’t even know personally) when he has already put it behind him and moved on with his life. That’s not healthy Kevin.

I think what Jay said was meant in the spirit of wanting to help. If you surround yourself with friends that will only tell you what you want to hear, then you’re not doing yourself any favors. You don’t have to act upon anyone else’s advice, but it wouldn’t hurt to at least listen, would it?

Peace,

Ray

[kevin]

... in response to My opinion..., posted by Ray on Sep 6, 2002


if I followed your advice, and I think it seems you want me to do that, I'd just fold the cards, throw in the towel and give up on life PERIOD!

- Kevin

[Stephen]

... in response to I suppose . . ., posted by kevin on Sep 6, 2002

KEVIN:

if I followed your advice, and I think it seems you want me to do that, I'd just fold the cards, throw in the towel and give up on life PERIOD!

STEHEN:

In effect, your currentl path is folding the cards, throwing in the towel and giving up on life PERIOD.

I'm saying follow the example of Howard and agressively go forward.  

Don't you think Howard got a bad deal with his ex?  But you don't hear him talking about it.  He's to excited about what he's got today.  Why not try that approach.

One last question:  Who's enjoying life more....kevin or howard?

Stephen

[kevin]

... in response to Re: I suppose . . ., posted by Stephen on Sep 6, 2002


I'm not enjoying life.  As a matter of fact I'm enjoying life more than I ever have when I think about it.  Living in my own home, not subject to abide by ridiculous parental rules (my mother was a very difficult woman to live with; the relevance here being I really did not have a life until I got my place), and I don't have to take any verbal abuse from an impossible-to-please wife.

I was pretty much in an upbeat mood until I was put down; kicked in a soft spot.  How did this all start?  Me stating how I felt about Helen.  Yes my sentiment was passionate.  Why?  Because that sort of thing is very salient.  I've had a similar experience in the past.

I don't like bank robbers either.  But robbing banks, to me is just the kind of stuff I'm used to hearing of in the news.  But suppose I was standing in line at the bank, and a disgruntled or belligerent bank robber comes in and starts randomly firing off bullets, and I was fortutate enough to survive such a carnage. I'd be much more sensitive to the subject of bank robberies.

I think my life is improving quite a bit for the most part.  I had a big setback with this board, some negative ideas certain folks are trying to impart in my head.  With my comments to the post before yours, I was sabotaging myself.  But part of me keeps kicking inside, and the f*** with anybody else who tries to keep me down.

No I have not found the love of my life yet.  I'm opening myself up more.  I've got to be patient.  (Well, if I were to follow Ray's advice like a good boy, I'd give up that persuit.)  I know what I face when it comes to sending introductory courtship letters to the Philippines.  Bear this in mind.  A trusted Filipino friend advised me that about 75% of pinays that place personals are only interested in getting to the United States or economic gain, and he's apprehensive about relying on that method to find a good gal.

At times, when I see a girl I'm attracted to (for example a petit, dark southeast Asian woman at Wal-Mart), it is very frustrating.  I must admit I am yearning for someone in my life I can give my total heart and trust to, who will do the same.  But the best things in life never come easy.

I'm very happy for Howard.  I think it's mere coincidence about timing, but given his circumstances (first the Ayesa saga and then his mother's death), I'm sure God was looking out for him. I think Gerlie coming into his life could not have happened at a better time.

- Kevin

[Jay]

... in response to Who says . . ., posted by kevin on Sep 6, 2002

HEY!... HEY!! Lay off the bank robber's, huh? You don't know them either.

Jay

[Howard]

... in response to Who says . . ., posted by kevin on Sep 6, 2002

Actually, I met Gerlie so early in my grieving(sp?)--over my marriage--that I wasn't sure that I was ready for a relationship.  To be honest, I wasn't sure that I would EVER be ready for a relationship AGAIN!!!  At least with a woman. NO, I don't mean that in a Prison way  LOL

I felt very strongly toward her from the begining and that troubled me, because I wasn't sure if it was her or my situation.  (Rebound, and I ain't talking hoops!)  After much thought, and healthy discussion with her, I realized that I didn't care why I felt the way I did.  It felt good to feel the way I do when I am hanging with her.  It was a pleasent change from the way I was feeling at the time--See; Self Pity--so I went with it.  I couldn't, nor would I!, deny the feelings that I felt for her.  What was important was that I was feeling them

Honestly, I had many doubts about Ayesa, but was too brainwashed--"Cultural Differences"--and proud--foolishly--to give them any validity until I was left with no alternative but to do so.  I'd probably be still married and, no doubt, miserable, if she didn't have the balls to say "ENOUGH!"  She's no innocent in any of this, but she did me a favor.  I never, ever, not in the most perfect scenario in the WORLD, could have had the open, honest, humorous, utot laiden , INCREDIBLE friendship I have now with my best buddy--Ummmmmmm that's YOU Mrs. Medium Size Petunia  LOL--Gerlie without everything happening the way it did.  

My best friend once asked me, "Dude, who shuts the light off when you close the refrigerator?.." JUST KIDDING!!!  LOL  Seriously, he asked, "If you knew ahead of time what you would have to go through, but you knew that you would end up with Gerlie in the end... Would you go through it all again?"  Yep, I would  Every moment of frustration, anger, betrayal, etc... was worth it to be where I am now.

Of course, if you can avoid it and just end up where I am, I HIGHLY recommend that path  LOL

Keep the Faith, I have more to say, but have an appointment

I'm sure you'll be waiting with baithed breath

LOL

H

[Ray]

... in response to Gerlie was Early! Hey... that Rhymes , posted by Howard on Sep 6, 2002

:-)

[Ray]

... in response to I suppose . . ., posted by kevin on Sep 6, 2002

...or anything remotely like that Kevin.

I was only trying to get through to you that Jay is not your enemy.

Ray