Jack, Jack, Jack..................

[jrm]

... in response to Persuade?, posted by Globetrotter on May 7, 2004

I know you and Lotsa Phat are cut of the same cloth. My point is you, nor anyone else is in the position or have the power to save us from ourselves. I would never give  my consent for such a marriage. But nobody asked me.
What ever happened to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness without the "age police" telling us whom we may marry.
No, I am not still pissed because the $2 ride cost me $65, only when Jack attacks me for my initial complaint.

[Globetrotter]

... in response to Re: Persuade?, posted by jrm on May 8, 2004

Sometimes "cut from the same cloth" includes reality, and sanity, the ability to see the forest for the trees, knowing who you are and liking it, being generally a happy person, successful, while at the same time seeing a wrong and pointing it out.  Sometimes personalities differ and approaches vary.  Societal norms come into play, as this is not India, or Pakistan or Bangladesh, where this would be considered a "wonderful match" arranged by the local matchmaker and everybody would sprinkle "Holy Water" on it.
Here, a match such as what I object to, is part of the 30% of marriages BCIS (INS) consider fraudulent.  Common sense is also a factor.   I just wanted to point this out in my own humorous way, hoping to draw attention to others who may have the same dilusional dreams.

Well, at least you didn't call me out to meet at the Windy City Gym with 8 oz gloves (as one guy did) or meet behind the school bus at 3:05.

Flawed mentality is what I am talking about, and at the end of the day, the only difference between Osama Bin-Laden and Romanchko is, Bin-Laden is wanted.

I have no beef with you and wish you well.  Just match your dreams with reality, have a reasonable dose of common sense,
toss in a great deal of luck, say many, many prayers, do the best you can do,  hope your partner feels the same, and let the chips fall where they may.....and, don't anger the age police.  

[LP]

... in response to Re: Persuade?, posted by jrm on May 8, 2004


...Hey, I like that. You've been upgraded from moron to idiot.

Still, I don't know where you're getting it from. I'm underweight for my height and while I may have a few of pounds (very few) in the front my six is pretty nice, or so I've been told. Wait, I know: You're probably being thrown off by the size of my wallet.

I'll be glad to send some naked pix along if you want, you strike me as the kinda guy who'd like that. I'd offer to send some of your girl friend's along with them - that is if you had any.

At least you and I agree on one thing: *No one* can save you from yourself. Not some foreign girl, not your family, and certainly not more notches in your passport. Hell, not even Jack. Your case is truly a lost cause, it's how ended up where you are now.

Lol, so long my befuddled and lonely friend. See you on the other side...

[tim360z]

... in response to I said goodbye..., posted by LP on May 6, 2004

HERES JOHNNY!

[Globetrotter]

... in response to WRONG, again!, posted by jrm on May 6, 2004

Each to his or her own.  I see things differently than you, and you are wrong if you think bad actors don't reflect on a whole group.

Like you before me....I said goodbye to a girl a few months back, not my interest in the women, the process, or this board.

[jrm]

... in response to Re: WRONG, again!, posted by Globetrotter on May 6, 2004

Who is the " bad actor"? The quy for wanting a younger woman, or the woman for wanting an old man! Where is this rule book you are using? Or is it your own prejudices?Certainly, it's not the norm, but it doesn't make them bad.

[Travis]

... in response to I don't understand, posted by jrm on May 6, 2004

I tend to agree with you. So long as the men pursueing this endeavor know the pitfalls and possible consequenses. It's not something to take litely. But, if a man goes into this scenario knowing the possible outcome, then we have done him a service by informing him of such. This whole name calling and insults are worthless.

I read this board and reply from time to time because I have something to contribute...the uglier side of the endeavor at least, not that I want to be negative, just realistic. I wished that weren't the case but it is. Why certain people write here is beyond me. Maybe boredom? They looked for an FSU woman and it didn't happen...CONSIDER YOURSELF LUCKY!!!

There is nothing wrong with a man wanting a younger and more attractive woman and there is nothing wrong with a woman wanting a man that is more established in his life and career. Forty years may be a bit much but it's for him to decide. We are here to say as much but not be so insulting in the process.  

BTW LP, is it your intent to insult everyone on this board in one statement?
"I like FSU women too but I long ago separated myself from the MOB people on both sides because the majority of them are very sick puppies indeed.".
You did NOT seperate yourself from the MOB scene as you continue to post here. These people are not *sick* as you state, rather they are looking for a better life. Maybe that is why you began looking to begin with?

At the end of the day, I agree with ramachko. It's his life to live. Maybe as friends we should point out the pitfalls but not insult him in the process. I for one hope the best for him. I do hope he's read the horror story's involved, mine included. But I think that is why he is on this board.

My grandfather was 76 when he died...his wife 36. I think he died happy and that's all that is important to me, he was happy when he passed.

[LP]

... in response to Re: I don't understand, posted by Travis on May 8, 2004

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...As I said, I was just stopping by. Other than posting here I've never had much to do with MOB. I've never used agencies, long ago stopped dealing with MOB women, and associated with very few of the men involved. I've kept my distance because I learned early on there were consequences to not doing so. I occasionally peruse this board and others simply to glean information until I cease involement in all things FSU, something I'll do after an upcoming final trip.

I should have said most are sick puppies. I know a few who're normal. They're the ones who go about this with thought and common sense and then quietly fad into the background after "succeeding". They're a minority however, unlike the rest who clearly aren't well adjusted and clueless of it to boot, whether married or not. It's clear exactly why they got involved in the first place and empirical data continually bears this out. Anyone who can't see this business is filled with messed up people on both sides truly has his head up his ass.

The very fact you think marrying an FSU girl defines a "better life" is revealing. On the contrary, there are *far* greater contibuting factors to the quality of life than "having" a woman. They're nice sure, but they're considered a quality pinnacle only to those with a narrow perspective forced focused by their inability to come to terms with a need they shouldn't have in the first place. For those who define "better life" to the point it involves the hassle, expense, and grief potential of MOB, well, they need to look at the root cause of their problem. I'll give you a clue: It isn't a simple lack of companionship and won't necessarily go away when they find some.

In short the quality of life is what you make it, not what someone else makes it for you. It's determined by how you feel about yourself, not how you feel about another. Women as just people. There is nothing special about any particular one and they're a dime a dozen. "Soulmate love" is an illusion based on an unhealthy need, I would've thought you'd have  learned this because of how you felt when you brought your ex-wife over versus how you feel now.

As I've said before, I got into this as a curiousity. I've never been on a mission, if I was I'd have married an FSU girl long ago. After all, it's not very hard to pull off. If someone comes along that strikes my fancy then things could change but until then it's been little more than a good time. It's simply because I have no need to validate the purpose of my life or it's satisfaction through the use of another person.

I suggest you do some research and focus more closely on the human factors involved. Had you done this you might not be in the situation you're now in. Has your life been "bettered" by your invovlement? Was it worth it? Yet you still feed at the trough. Along with others you cling to the hope the solution to your problem is 5,000 km away when in fact it couldn't possibly be more closer to home.

[Globetrotter]

... in response to I don't understand, posted by jrm on May 6, 2004

Well, you said it best, that you don't understand.  Actually, both are bad actors, and that should be common knowledge to most.

Gee, do you really need a rule book when something stinks?

And, yea, it makes them both really bad.  When the next congressman or senator has a law penned that makes it more difficult or impossible for you to bring your squeeze here
because of the improbable professor and those just like him,
remember this little exchange.

BTW, have fun in Ukraine.

[LP]

... in response to Re: I don't understand, posted by Globetrotter on May 6, 2004

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*deleted*....

Nope, I'm not gonna do it. I'm not gonna get drawn back into the slimy world of MOB and the sad people who inhabit it.

Have a nice day...

[Globetrotter]

... in response to Thats a fact...., posted by LP on May 7, 2004

Well, back from retirement?  Nice to have a dose of sanity from time to time.  I thought I'd try to point out what I thought was "legalized prostitution" in the act and thought others might think the same, or at least the foolishness of the endeavor.  I was amazed at how few responded.  

Jack is probably right to stay away....or is still busy cleaning up the beach after his party.

The defenders of the professor I can't imagine.  Those types will someday get their grapes turned into wine.  Go figgure.  

Stop by any time.

[jrm]

... in response to Re: Thats a fact...., posted by Globetrotter on May 7, 2004

I am defending his and her right to pursue happiness as long as it doesn't encroach upon someone else's rights or break laws.
Jack is working at the phone company.

[LP]

... in response to Re: Thats a fact...., posted by Globetrotter on May 7, 2004

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...no, just stopping by. It was a mistake of course...now it'll take me a week to feel clean again.

Amazed at how few responded? You shouldn't have been. It *is* his life you know. Yes, he makes you all look bad and yes, you'd think he'd know better but what can ya do?

You keep forgetting most here share certain attributes that make them as unmovable as people in any cult. They're birds of a feather and easy to fathom. And as with any group they're gonna be stratified into those who're intelligent all the way down to those who're just plain stupid.

I suggest you simply forget them and do your own thing. I like FSU women too but I long ago separated myself from the MOB people on both sides because the majority of them are very sick puppies indeed.
I mean come on, look at the "weather and women in Kyiv" post above. Do you *really* want to be associated with people like this?

[romachko]

... in response to Re: Thats a fact...., posted by Globetrotter on May 7, 2004

Asked why he was marrying a young Latin girl, John Wayne quipped, "I live my life, you live yours. OK?"

[LP]

... in response to Re: Re: Thats a fact...., posted by romachko on May 7, 2004


...He also said: "life is hard...real hard if you're stupid"