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Author Topic: Non-Cyrillic postal addresses  (Read 3019 times)
TwoBitBandit
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« on: April 03, 2004, 05:00:00 AM »

I see a lot of websites listing addresses with non-Cyrillic (English) addresses for ladies.

It just doesn't seem to make much sense to me.  Only educated Russians speak English, so why would the average postal worker be able to figure it out?

I guess you don't really need to be fluent in English to transliterate from English to Russian, but because transliteration is imperfect there are multiple transliterations for any street name.

Does anyone have any feel for how often a letter sent to the FSU with a non-Cyrillic address will actually get delivered?  Is it 99%, 90%, 50% or 10%?

I also don't really get why they just don't list Cyrillic addresses for the ladies...even if you don't understand Russian it's not that hard to just copy the characters...?

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jrm
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« Reply #1 on: April 04, 2004, 05:00:00 AM »

... in response to Non-Cyrillic postal addresses, posted by TwoBitBandit on Apr 3, 2004

It doesn't matter what language the address is written in, it only depends on the honesty of the local postal worker. And they usually aren't! They will open the letters hoping to find money, and many do.
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Philb
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« Reply #2 on: April 03, 2004, 05:00:00 AM »

... in response to Non-Cyrillic postal addresses, posted by TwoBitBandit on Apr 3, 2004

I have sent numerous letters and packages (about 25 total) to both Russia and Ukraine.  The addresses were always hand written in English only.  Some of these were sent to very small towns.  All of them arrived intact.  

The longest took over 6 weeks (I mailed this one on Septmeber 10, 2001).  The shortest 7 days.  Both of these were being sent from Wyoming to Novokuznesk in Central Siberia.

I have always used USPS Global Express Mail

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romachko
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« Reply #3 on: April 03, 2004, 05:00:00 AM »

... in response to Non-Cyrillic postal addresses, posted by TwoBitBandit on Apr 3, 2004

Most MOB sites use English because it is the most widely used language in the world. I traveled in 57 countries, covering every continent except Antarctica. While it is not easy sometimes, I could always find some one who could speak English. Those Russian girls who are particularly looking for their future husbands in Germany or Italy, not in USA or UK, still post their resumes in English. Furthermore, they clearly indicate they don’t understand English. However, there exist MOB sites in other languages, for example in German, Italian, Spanish, Scandinavian and even Japanese. Don’t worry about if your letters would reach your intended destinations.

Practically every country has a standardized way to write the names of their cities in Roman (not English) characters. The pronunciation generally follows Hepburn (spelling?) format, which does not necessarily, coincides with English. Neither does it coincide with other European languages.  Russian words spelled in Roman characters sometimes do not follow even HF. For example, a common Russian woman’s name Yuliya (HF) is often spelled Julia, which can be pronounced correctly in German but not in English or Spanish or any other language, which adopts H.F. There is a saying, “A German word is pronounced exactly as it is written, a French word is pronounced consistently not as it is written, and an English word is pronounced inconsistently.” George Barnard Shaw once asked, “How do you pronounce ghoti?” His answer was, “Fish.” He explains:   should be pronounced  “f” as in enough,  be “i” as in women and  be  ”sh” as in .

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tim360z
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« Reply #4 on: April 03, 2004, 05:00:00 AM »

... in response to Non-Cyrillic postal addresses, posted by TwoBitBandit on Apr 3, 2004

It is curious.  It probably depends upon the city.  A friend in St. Pete stressed many times to me that I could send her postal mail in English...on the envelope.  Usually I would write it in Russian.  So I tried English a few times, like she recommended and she received them all.  Also,  a girl in a small Ukrainian (100K) told me the same thing and she also received the mail.  But I do think,  to be safe Russian is the best way to go. Especially in a very small town.  Additionally,  despite what all the mail forwarders may tell you about slow mail and stolen mail...that has definitely not been my experience with letters.  St. Pete was 6-9 days 1 way.  Not bad for 80 cents.
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