Being Married to a FSU Lady Honestly Sucks!!!

[Scaught]

... in response to Re: Being Married to a FSU Lady Honestly..., posted by Globetrotter on Apr 14, 2004

I strongly sensed that you did the right thing in your situation. I wish you the very best in everything, my friend!

[Globetrotter]

... in response to Re: Re: Being Married to a FSU Lady Hone..., posted by Scaught on Apr 16, 2004

Scaught, you have done well to identify, and do something about your problem, a taker.  Many can't do this and blame themselves, question themselves, and kick themselves in the ass for not doing "more."  

Now, if someone could only convince our "Romancho" that just maybe he is a boat, and a paycheck, that his squeeze 40 years his junior really doesn't love him for his supple body and his inquisitive mind, and she just might kill him for his social security check.  Well, there, LP would be proud...and it needed to be said.

You have identified the problem, and have done something about it....good for you!!!

[LP]

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Being Married to a FSU Lady ..., posted by Globetrotter on Apr 16, 2004

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...but your pissin in the wind if you think you'll ever get through to most of these schmucks.

The basis for a life long partnership is *not* based on culture, a sexy accent, youth or physical beauty, miniskirts, on and on. All are transitory in nature. And as far as FSU women being better mothers, ect, well, they ought to ask their mothers. All of these clowns seemed to have turned out alright from childhood before developing head problems from later experiences that drove them into this racket.

Millions upon millions of people the world over know this to be true, they're happily together with their own kind. Amazingly (at least to MOB desperados), it's true of the vast majority of people on Earth including most Russians and Ukrainians. Read that again until it sinks in...

I'm not saying if they want one they shouldn't go for it. The fact is, on a core level, women *are* the same everywhere. I'm saying if you add up the additional risks and problems for what you get it's a gamble only a desperate or brainwashed fool would take. A wise man knows the above mentioned "benefits" of these women are as hollow as the reasons given for seeking them.

In fact it shows how wanting one based on those reasons is self-centered and a poor foundation for any relatioship, let alone marriage. Nor is escaping from a screwed up country on the girl's side. You can spout all the agency hype you want, the simple fact there is no MOB in stable and developed countries puts an end to the argument. Period.

MOB guys make these women out to be a big "secret" the rest of the world is clueless to. Well guess again. That they seek them for the above reasons shows their motivations are mainly driven by insecurity. Lol, like MOB guys are onto something special and the rest of the world is somehow clueless. It puts them in a minority, a group of men less enlightened, not more.

There is no shame in searching for a good mate anywhere as long as it's for the right reasons. I like women too, all women. I may even marry a foreign one someday if I ever find one that beats my local gal, which never happened in the FSU. But if I do you won't see me on a BB spewing sugar and spice. Secure men don't need to show off their mate like a pickup truck and power tools. Nor is their sole motivation in searching abroad to find a Barbie Doll to hang on their arm, men who do either are an abomination to masculinity everywhere.

At best if these marriages work (and I mean for a lifetime, else what's the point), in the big scheme of things, in the final analysis, they'll have wasted lots of time, emotion, and money for something they could have had right in they're own backyard. Or at worse, they get a trouncing that has much less chances of happening with their own kind. I hope Scaught returns when the time comes and tells them how he's just as happy with the local talent as he could have been had he rolled the dice on another FSU girl. And how he wished he'd not wasted time being blinded by the MOB light.

But hey, they won't listen to us. After all, we're miserable. Good jobs, great women, freedom from codependence and fear, good friends, toys many only dream about. You think all that just "happens"? I loved my involvement in the FSU because I always saw it for what it was: Fun. Adventure. A life experience. But a mission? You can't be serious...

In the end 80% of these guys are the lost souls the public perceive them to be and the biggest losers among them actually believe domestic woman are inferior. That seems so only to those seeking a mate based soley on the above mentioned criterion. And to do so from counties in turmoil is about as much proof as any rational person needs that MOB is a crap shoot with motives based on a twisted mentality. The funny part is many of those involved know this, they just won't listen to their gut.

If they want to they could fix their sorry assed lot, beginning now. Or they can (as I see many have) continue to sit around an Internet BB for years and talk crap while potentially good and loving mates pass closeby. If I were them I'd look in the mirror very closely and ask why they allow this to keep happening based on an illusion generated by hype and a few "sucess" stories, often from bigger social misfits than themselves. Who knows, they may find answers to other questions while they're at it.

'Dems the facts Globe. The sooner they admit this to themselves the better off they'll be and the sooner they'll quit wishing upon a distant MOB star. It's up to them, time's awasting.

Adios...

[WmGo]

... in response to Re: Being Married to a FSU Lady Honestly..., posted by Globetrotter on Apr 14, 2004

Hey Globe,

Just one thing I have to follow up on - I strongly disagree that women are the same all over the world. I think that each nation/cultural organism produces different people with different mentalities, ways, customs, etc. Yes, in the emotional realm most women the world over are the same, but outside that realm they are very different from country to country. FSUW are vastly different than Western women. *Generally* speaking, the Eurasian Russian/Ukrainian women is more self centered, more judgmental, and more temperamental than European and American women. They are more superstitious. They can be much colder, rude and arrogant. They are more gullible and more impressionable. They are much more prone to lie and be deceptive. This is a cultural realtiy of the post Soviet world.

One must bear in mind that the entire global existence of
"scammer women" and the like has to do with Russian/Ukrainian women -and this for a reason.

Yes, there are some real jewels there. But the unfortunate reality is that they are a minority, and IMO a small minority.

My 2 rubles.

WmGO

[Globetrotter]

... in response to Re:  FSU Lady , posted by WmGo on Apr 15, 2004

Hey I agree too.  Environments certainly make people act a little differently, but the core is the same.  Slimmer?  Dunno, as the AW I'm seeing is 5'4" and 112 lbs...model territory, (if 5'4" girls could be) speaks perfect English, is a lawyer, has her own house and money, cute, and a very nice person.  Told her of my FSU adventures and she said some interesting things about it.

Still in all, the FSU is the greatest singles bar in the world, but will cost you $2Gs to walk in the door.  But man,
make sure it's really what you want before commiting for the time and effort it takes just getting her here.  And then the ride really begins!  I could have sworn that my RW squeeze was the real thing, and was very disappointed.  That's OK as I do well here also, and if the current one doesn't work, there are others interested, so I'm OK, but don't count myself out of the MOB scene just yet.

[LP]

... in response to Re:  FSU Lady , posted by WmGo on Apr 15, 2004

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...as usual. Especially the part about the good ones being in a minority. Worth a hell of a lot more than two rubles.

You're a minority in MOB too my friend, it's a pity the two seem to have problems connecting with each other. Good luck...

[WmGo]

... in response to Brilliant....., posted by LP on Apr 19, 2004

thanks LP. Good luck to you also.

One thing I should have added to my above post to make it more balanced are the things that FSUW adventurers know: FSUW are typically more sophisticated, feminine and charming in their conduct, speech, dress and mannerisms than their American counterparts, not to mention slimmer. However, it is the deeper inner things that matter and it is in that realm that most FSUW are lacking. Just like most of the really exceptionally pretty women I have dated here -the inside just doesn't match the outside. The girl I am dating now is a fox - with the mouth of a sailor! Not one to bring home to momma

Have you seen The Passion?

[JohnL]

... in response to Re: Connecting....., posted by WmGo on Apr 20, 2004

Hey William, whats going on with this fox bit :-) !!

Remember your being *watched* and I might just dob you in to Momma too.  LOL

If you really want a dose of *sailored mouths* and *female* all in one, come try our RAN *girls*. As Pop once said, dont go near them with anything less than a fourty foot barge pole!!!

Watch out Bro, I wont wish you good luck with the one you presently have *on board* either. :-)

[WmGo]

... in response to A Fox! , posted by JohnL on Apr 21, 2004

Hey Bro.John,
Good to hear from ya mate! Yeah, I am giving her language lessons. I like to think there is hope for everyone But I know not to be unequally yoked.
Take care man!
William

[LP]

... in response to Re: Connecting....., posted by WmGo on Apr 20, 2004


Well, I'll agree on the slimmer and feminine part but not on much else. Must be because them southern bells you got down there can't hold a candle to left coast chicks.

FSU women sure are emotional loose cannons though and that's long turned me off. Good fun to play with as long as they ain't MOB types. I quit dealing with them long ago, too slimey. (note the closeness to the word slimmer) But marry one? I dunno, that's for folks who can't do any better.

The Passion? Funny you should ask, I've had a copy on my PC since a week before it was released. Made it through the first 5 minutes and got bored. Haven't been back since. Guess I oughta watch it and see what all the hoopla is about but I dunno...it's just a movie. It certainly can't be any more smoke and mirrors than the real story is.

I'll keep an open mind though and try to sit through it this weekend when I'm laying over in some dumpy hotel. I hope it's entertaining, as least as much as hanging out at the bar with the groupies.

[WmGo]

... in response to Re: Re: Connecting....., posted by LP on Apr 20, 2004

For the most part it is a very accurate presentation of the Gospels, with a little artistic license in a few scenes. Just remember, it is a true story. There is no historian in the world who denys the historical fact of the life, teachings, claims and crucifiction of Jesus. It is only His divinity and resurrection that are contested. History is moving very quickly now. All will be revealed very soon. Just keep yer eye on Jerusalem.

Have you ever heard of Rayford Steele? He is also a pilot.

[LP]

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Connecting....., posted by WmGo on Apr 21, 2004

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Ah well, you can't argue with a drunken man

"For the most part it is a very accurate presentation of the Gospels, with a little artistic license in a few scenes."

Now how would you know that? Were you there?

"There is no historian in the world who denys the historical fact of the life, teachings, claims and crucifiction of Jesus."

Sorry, no sale. As far as I know there is no concrete evidence the guy ever existed.

"It is only His divinity and resurrection that are contested."

For all the misery it's caused in the world that little detail really should've been resolved by now. As I've said before, the world is full of nuts and there is no nut like a relgious nut. They're the Master Race of Nuts. It's the main problem I have with it.

"History is moving very quickly now. All will be revealed very soon. Just keep yer eye on Jerusalem."

Don't get me started. This country wouldn't have half the problems it does today if it weren't for Israel. It's ok for *them* to have WMDs, they'll even jail their own  citizens for 18 years just for mentioning it in public.

Now having said all that I'll admit one thing: If anyone ever does break down my beliefs about all this it'll be a guy like you.

"Have you ever heard of Rayford Steele? He is also a pilot."

There are lots of guys I haven't heard of but the Feds know them all. What is he a pilot of? My sources tell me there is only one guy with that name and the record shows he's not certificated. Ask to see his license. It could be an error but I doubt it. The gummint isn't known for good record keeping but aviation is a different story, especially these days.

[WmGo]

... in response to Re: Connecting....., posted by LP on Apr 22, 2004

LP,

I can and have debated many many atheist and agnostic PhDs the last 25 years and can assure you that they always concede the historical reality and fact of Jesus. He is the most historically documented figure in the history of the entire world. To say that say that there is no evidence that He ever existed is the same as saying that there is no evidence that George Washington or Julias Caeser existed. That line of argument simply doesn't hold water. In point of fact, there are no serious and educated (meaning on the subject) detractors of Christ who argue His nonexistence. This should tell you something.

There is a book I want you to read. It is a short version of a larger tome. It is "More than a Carpenter" by Josh McDowell (his tome is "The Evidence Demands a Verdict"). These works, and there are many others that I can refer you to, will answer and address what you *think* are "points" that you are scoring.

Be careful about your comments about Israel. He who blesses Israel will be blessed - and vice versa. The fact that a tiny nation of 10 million people can be considered the cause of all of the problems in the whole world (a Biblical prophecy fulfilled right before our very eyes) should cause you pause and reflection. In fact, it is Satan himself who wants the world to think that way. Whether you choose to believe or not, Satan is just as real as me and you. And he wants another Holocaust. For a reason. You need to learn that reason. Until you do you will never understand History. And you become a tool for God's adversary (which is neither chic, nor cool, nor macho, nor enlightened).

If we were in the same room I could articulate more and better. In a matter of minutes I could show you things in Scripture that would have a profound impact on you. For now, I want you to go read  Genesis 3:14-15,Psalm 22, Isaiah 53, John Chapters 1-3, Romans 1:16, 3:10-28, 5:1,8-12, 6:23,10:9-10, I Corinthians 15:3-4,20-22, I John 1:8. If you don't I am going to have to call you chicken ;0

Oh yeah, you can read about Mr. Steele, a 747-57 pilot, in a book called "Left Behind". He reminds me of you, and I mean that respectfully. The similarities between the two of you are amazing.

LAter Hombre.

[LP]

... in response to Re:  Israel....., posted by WmGo on Apr 22, 2004

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"The fact that a tiny nation of 10 million people can be considered the cause of all of the problems in the whole world"

I never said they were the cause of all problems, just many of ours. At least concerning how we apply our foregin policy and their insidious and damaging influence on our politics.

Why is it God's "choosen people" are so disliked by almost everyone in the world? And why are the (supposedly) most holiest places on Earth (regardless of the religion) nothing but rocks and sand? We even have a word in our language to describe such places: God Forsaken.

As Sam Kinnison once said (when describing how what he'd tell all the people in the Middle East who've been killing each other for a millenium: "See this? It's sand! You know what it'll be in a thousand years? It's gonna be *#%&ing sand!! And you're telling me these folks are enlightened?

"Whether you choose to believe or not, Satan is just as real as me and you."

Yes he is, and his name is George Bush. Otherwise no, I choose not. Next you'll be trying to convince me Satan's existence is as well documented (supposedly) as JC's.

"He who blesses Israel will be blessed - and vice versa"

For lack of a better work: Poppycock. Are you actually suggesting living in a particular place bestows special privledges? If that's true, you're in a heap of trouble However, if there is a Hell there are a few folks in Israel who certainly belong there.

"You can read about Mr. Steele, a 747-57 pilot, in a book called "Left Behind"."

Left Behind? Ah, *that* Rayford Steele. From the movie of the same name. I hate to break it to you but he's a work of fiction. (You seem to be a big fan of fiction my friend)

"He reminds me of you, and I mean that respectfully. The similarities between the two of you are amazing."

Except my existence is based in reality, that's more than I can say for many religous fanatics. Their insanity was forever proven when the first ones took dietary advice from a talking snake. They have justifications for everything, like how it's ok to drop a big buck from 100 yards while pushing the other nine commandments with a straight face.

Sorry, no sale. We just see things differently, it's the same when it comes to me and people who think "certain" women are better than others. Condisering that, you'd better be careful about that "covet thy neighbor's wife" thing too

See ya...

[WmGo]

... in response to Re: Re:  Israel....., posted by LP on Apr 22, 2004

your chicken? , or you gonna do some reading instead of squawking like one ? -

Time to burn the midnight oil man. You can do it. Just give it a try. You won't regret it.

Good luck!