Here it is, folks!!!

[Streetwise]

It arrived quicker than I thought. Look familiar to anyone? (I hope so, hate to think I am doing this to an innocent person, but from the previous posts on the subject I'm sure she must be "playing the game.")

I'll write her back and keep you posted as to how things develop

Cheers all!

HI xxxx, HOW ARE YOU? THANK YOU FOR ATTENTION TO MY PROFILE. THERE IS =
SOME MORE INFO ABOUT ME TO HELP YOU TO DECIDE IF YOU WANT TO KNOW ME =
BETTER OR NOT. I AM OPEN AND OPTIMISTIC, EMOTIONAL AND SENSITIVE. I LIKE =
EVERYTHING IN THIS LIFE AND I ENJOY EVERY DAY WHICH I HAVE. I LIKE =
LITERATURE, ARTS, NATURE, MUSIC, TRAVELLING AND JUST RELAX. I HAVE A LOT =
OF LOVE TO GIVE, BUT I NEED SPECIAL, VERY SPECIAL MAN WHO CAN =
UNDERSTAND, RESPECT, LOVE AND TAKE CARE OF ME. I WOULD LIKE TO MEET NICE =
MAN, INTERESTING PERSONALITY, TENDER LOVER AND CAREFUL HUSBAND. I VALUE =
BRAIN, ACTIVITY AND SENSE OF HUMOUR. I HAVE A DAUGHTER THAT IS 8 YEARS =
OLD, BUT I WOULD NOT MIND TO HAVE MORE CHILDREN. I HAVE UNIVERSITY =
DEGREE AND DO MY BEST FOR MY DAUGHTER TO KNOW MUCH ABOUT DIFFERENT =
THINGS. WE ARE GREAT FRIENDS AND OF COURSE, I LOVE HER MORE THAN =
ANYHING. I AM LOOKING FOR GENTLE GUY, CARING AND SUPPORTIVE. I HOPE TO =
HAVE SOLID FAMILY AND VERY CLOSE CONNECTION WITH MY HUSBAND. I WANT US =
TO LIVE TAKING CARE OF INTEREST OF EACH OTHER. I LOOK FOR PEACE AND JOY =
IN RELATIONSHIP. I HATE TO ARGUE AND I AM AFRAID OF SUSPISIOUS, JEALOUS, =
GREEDY AND RUDE MEN. BUT ROMANTIC, PASSIONATE, CREATIVE MAN IS WELCOME =
INTO MY LIFE. AS YOU KNOW ALREADY KNOW I AM 29, 165 CM AND 60 KG. THERE =
IS MY PICTURE FOR YOU FOR A CASE YOU DO NOT REMEMBER HOW I LOOK LIKE. I =
HOPE TO HEAR FROM YOU SOON.
HAVE A NICE DAY. NATA

P.S. DID I TELL YOU THAT I LIKED YOUR PICTURE VERY MUCH? - ))=20
YES, I WANT US TO FIND THINGS IN COMMON AND TO BE FRIENDS...

[SimonSays]

... in response to Here it is, folks!!!, posted by Streetwise on Mar 11, 2004

Streetwise, I was looking forward to how your communication would progress with this alleged scammer. Is she still writing?

[AJ277]

... in response to Here it is, folks!!!, posted by Streetwise on Mar 11, 2004

whats the point?

better time spent writing someone you know or at least think is sincere?

if she is a well versed scammer , she knows how to check WU's  by phone or on line to  verify  they are for real without wasting any time going to pick them up.

and if you manage to waste a bit of her time, her reaction would be " yawn, oh well" out of the hundreds of intro letters and so forth she likely writes daily?

it wouyld seem she either has plenty of other fish to scam, or else she truely is that desparate of a situation that the time wasted "working you"
would cut into her income to survive ,
and youd feel better somehow in the long run? or she will? or her child?

I dont get it
*shrugs*

Dont take me wrong -I dont condone her actions in the least,,

[Streetwise]

... in response to Re: Here it is, folks!!!, posted by AJ277 on Mar 13, 2004

I know it's a long shot, and unlikely to have any effect on her; heck, she probably reads this board regularly. But maybe showing her letters will be an eye opener to those who might be future scam-fodder. One guy already thought her letter was sincere (see below.) It is a good insight for "newbies" to see how artful these people are. Sharing knowedge, that's what this is about.

[AJ277]

... in response to Re: Re: Here it is, folks!!!, posted by Streetwise on Mar 13, 2004

on the educational pert of it for new guys..

the sad part is most of them dont research anything, just happen to blindly visit a site or get written to from their  personal on match.. or friendfinder ( in the past)
or wherever?

The ones smart enough to not need the warning, well dont need it.but would be far more likely to do some research and see it here, and elsewhere.

the ones in desperate need of it, will never look past the hottie photo,and "you are my dream man" email  they recieved in fantasyland-
to actually research and see any warnings,here there or anywhere..
been that way quite a few years...

commend you for attempting to try ..
and change a little something.

[John F]

... in response to Here it is, folks!!!, posted by Streetwise on Mar 11, 2004

I wanted to see what this girl looked like but apparently her photo and profile have been removed from the website.

[FLASH2D]

... in response to Interesting, posted by John F on Mar 12, 2004

Sorry to say she has a tip that fellas will be playing with her so it's possible she'll be suttle in her approach but she has an ingenious creative mind and will find a way for you to suggest you'd like to send money to support her.  She can  be seen in foreign affair if you type in her profile # is 37180. Not the best photos of her. She's wily so be careful. She has alot of experience dealing with american men and has been well schooled in that art. She's even heavier than she looks in those photos but had a number one rating in some pretty sleazy and reputable agencies this time last year.

[gator70]

... in response to Here it is, folks!!!, posted by Streetwise on Mar 11, 2004

I have seen a lot of intro letters, About 250. Why do you think this is a scam? Take it a few more letters. Maybe you're wrong?

[TwoBitBandit]

... in response to Re: Here it is, folks!!!, posted by gator70 on Mar 11, 2004

This is the lady referred to in an earlier thread...she is a known scammer...Streetwise is trying to bait her for fun.

[FLASH2D]

... in response to Here it is, folks!!!, posted by Streetwise on Mar 11, 2004

street,
You have her man. Pretty much a standard letter to begin with. Soon you'll here about drunken brother, sick father, and mother who is to godly and lives away from home and she's expected to support whole family. After all it's the Ukrainian way.  She hates religion and any thing associated with it. She'll meet you anywhere and be horizontal by days end. Hubby let her roam the country as long as she brought home the bacon, Divorce is questionable. Daughter comes about fourth or fifth in her life in importance in reality. She's actually mother from hel*. Keep it comin and I'll help to fill in blanks. She doesn't work. The money magicly appears.    flash

[Streetwise]

... in response to Re: Here it is, folks!!!, posted by FLASH2D on Mar 11, 2004

Thanks Flash, should be interesting to watch it all unfold. By the way, she is using natasha2001@ok.net.ua for this correspondence, as you mentioned below. Have just written her back; watch this space!

[FLASH2D]

... in response to I'll post it all!, posted by Streetwise on Mar 12, 2004

street,
Any new news recently? Some of my friends were looking forward to seeing a follow-up and seeing how you are faring. Looks like it's grabbed the interest of some who read the forum but never post. AJ's right about newbies being blinded by a hottie photograph and rushing in blined and thinking they'll rescue the damsel in distress. Or the good old white knight syndrome. The experenced scams sre getting their hooks set for the summer visits. Don't be discouraged fellas, there are many great women out there just be cautious and use the hesd that sits on your sholders.

[Streetwise]

... in response to Re: I'll post it all!, posted by FLASH2D on Mar 14, 2004

Hi Flash, here it is, received yesterday. I must confess it threw me a bit, the picture attachment looked very natural (I always associatd scammers with touched-up photos of models in provocative poses!) Or maybe that is another extra touch of clever subtlety in this case? Interesting to note that she is a chess player (that would explain a lot!!)

HI xxxx, HOW ARE YOU? I AM SO GLAD TO HEAR FROM YOU ! YOU KNOW I LIKED
YOUR PICTURE VERY MUCH AND I SO MUCH WANTED YOU TO WRITE ME BACK - )) AND
NOW I HAVE IT AND ONE MORE PICTURE ! GREAT ! YOU CAN CALL ME CRAZY, BUT I
FEEL CHEMISTRY BETWEEN US - )) AND I WANT YOU TO FEEL IT TOO! - ))
WHAT IS YOUR BUSINESS, xxxx? DO YOU WORK ALONE OR YOU HAVE SOMEBODY WHO
HELPS YOU WITH WORK? YOU TOLD THAT YOU ARE MORE FREE IN WINTER THAN IN
SUMMER. SO I GUESS VERY SOON YOU WILL BE BUSY. BUT HOW BUSY? DO YOU WORK
WITH TOURISTS/ TELL ME ABOUT YOUR BUSINESS.
YES, I TRAVELLED. I CAN NOT SAY THAT I SAW MUCH, BUT I HAVE BEEN IN ITALY,
GERMANY. SWITZERLAND AND OTHER COUNTRIES. I AM FOND OF ART AND LIKE TO DRAW
( WHEN I HAVE INSPIRATION ). SO WHEN I TRAVEL I ALWAYS TRY TO FIND
OPPORTUNITY TO VISIT MUSEUMS AND ART GALLERIES.
ARE YOUR PARENTS ALIVE? DO YOU HAVE MANY OTHER RELATIVES IN ENGLAND? AND WHO
LIVES IN YOUR HOUSE WHEN YOU ARE GONE?
YOU ALREADY KNOW THAT I LIKE TO PAINT. I ALSO PLAY CHESS WHEN I HAVE
COMPANY. I LIKE TO READ AND JUST TO WATCH TV. I CAN NOT SAY THAT I HAVE VERY
ACTIVE LIFE, BUT I KNOW THAT IF I HAD SOMEBODY FOR COMPANY I WOULD SURE BE
MORE ACTIVE AND MAYBE GO INFOR SPORT. I LIVE WITH MY DAUGHTER, MY DAD AND
BROTHER. MY MUM LIVES SEPARATELY, BUT SHE COMES ALMOST EVERY DAY TO US. I
CAN NOT SAY I HAVE MANY FRIENDS, BUT I SURE HAVE SOME.
HOW IS YOUR WEEKEN SO FAR? TALK TO YOU LATER. BYE. NATA

[Pordzhik]

... in response to Latest instalment, posted by Streetwise on Mar 14, 2004

You smooth talker you.

Just one thing puzzles me, for a well versed scammer and letter writer, what's with all the CAPS? Maybe you're writing to one of her students.