What about this...has this changed ??

[jrm]

... in response to Re: I'm starting to see ... alot of post..., posted by wsbill on Dec 16, 2003

n/t

[Lynn]

... in response to try "pasting" occassionally to..., posted by jrm on Dec 18, 2003

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They turned into a brown goo----looked (and smelled)like dung.

Just because he was dumb enought to post under a alias and then tell on himself and then getting banned because of the idiocy, doesn't mean that the rest of us have such dire needs for amusement.

[Lynn]

... in response to Re: I'm starting to see ... alot of post..., posted by wsbill on Dec 16, 2003

... the carnivores are after you veggieboy ;/

[that guy]

... in response to What about this...has this changed ??, posted by wsbill on Dec 16, 2003

I find this guy to be almost completely wrong...lol You would think he might have learned something after the first marriage. Maybe this is a woman posting actually.

[John F]

... in response to What about this...has this changed ??, posted by wsbill on Dec 16, 2003

Pure garbage!  Too many fallacies in that rant.  RW wife and I will soon be celebrating our fourth wedding anniversary.

[Ken W]

... in response to What about this...has this changed ??, posted by wsbill on Dec 16, 2003

"Their light switches turn light on in the up position."

This is the most accurate statement in the whole article, methinks.

[TwoBitBandit]

... in response to What about this...has this changed ??, posted by wsbill on Dec 16, 2003

Does anyone have any opinion about what this guy says about sex with RW is true?

[Jersey Mike]

... in response to Wow, this guy is BITTER!, posted by TwoBitBandit on Dec 16, 2003

I know that there are some guys, like myself, have considered women from different regions of the world, so I'll throw in my two cents.  Disclaimer:  My ex-wife is from one of the smaller FSU republics, so there is a mild bitterness factor in my comments.

I do not think that you can project political history for being the reason that a whole people act or behave in a certain way, which the writer was trying to do.  However, I do believe that some cultural generalizations do hold true, and this is not necessarily stereotyping.  (After all, most people would probably agree that Germans are not as demonstrative or passionate as, say, Italians.)  Having said this, my experience dating a small sample of FSU and eastern European women over the past 10 years or so, including my ex-wife, is that they are somewhat colder sexually and emotionally than women from other cultures.  All of the women that I dated over the past were already living in the NYC/NJ area - not sure if this makes any difference, but it is noted nonetheless.

I find that the women of eastern Europe, including FSU, are often looking for the next "bigger & better deal" to come along, especially the younger, prettier ones.  The women tend to lead with their heads rather than their hearts in a relationship, and the guys never see it coming.  Frankly, the track record of the AW/FSUW couples that I have personally observed is abysmal, including my own.  (It's about 1 for 15 that has reached the 5 year mark so far.)

This is not meant as a blanket slam on RW's.  Individual differences always outweigh generalities, and I have no doubt that the happily married guys on this board have great wives.  Good luck to all!

[WmGo]

... in response to Re: Wow, this guy is BITTER!, posted by Jersey Mike on Dec 16, 2003

Your cultural *generalization* that
FSUW "are somewhat colder sexually and
emotionally than women from other cultures"
is accurate. Fortunately, I have also had the
pleasure of experiencing FSUW who do not fit
this cultural norm.

I would really feel sorry
for a WM who got stuck with one of the frigid types
as the FSUW brand of coldness is the coldest of all women
on the planet. Maybe the northern latitude has something
to do with it.

Caveat Emptor!

[LP]

... in response to Wow, this guy is BITTER!, posted by TwoBitBandit on Dec 16, 2003

[This message has been edited by LP]

...nah, forget it. I'd only take heat.

[Ken W]

... in response to Wow, this guy is BITTER!, posted by TwoBitBandit on Dec 16, 2003

It's hogwash. My guess is that his motivational techniques could use some work.

[wilmc]

... in response to What about this...has this changed ??, posted by wsbill on Dec 16, 2003

I do not believe that this was ever a very accurate picture.  It is based upon the experiences of a bitter man who has suffered through 2 failed marriages.  Both, according to him, the fault of the women's Russian culture.  Sorry for him, but it takes two to make a good marriage and also two to make a bad divorce.

In my experience he has made only a few partially valid points, one example PDA, (public displays of affection) reluctance.  Heck, I come from Upstate NY and they were not very popular there either.

The rest of his diatribe is a gross generalization based upon his own, I believe, distorted opinion.

I have been socializing with Russian ladies for four years now, on foreign holidays and visits to Moscow.  Let me qualify my experience.  It has been only with mature, divorced ladies with children from Moscow.  In all but one case the children were grown and not living at home.  They are all, intelligent, very gracious, appreciative, sophisticated, and sensual.  Maybe I have had good luck or use a good selection process.  Either way I did not find the writers description to be accurate.  

3 of the ladies I dated have subsequently married.  All to western men.  We still correspond and they all seem to have successful marriages.  I have not talked to their husbands though.  

Women from other parts of Russia may be different, just as southern belles are different from valley girls here.  I do not know.