A few general questions for y'all

[Windmill Boy]

Howdy

The  board  has  been  a  little  slow  lately and  I have  been  wondering  about  these  topics  so  I  thought  I  would  present  them  to  you.

1).  I've  been  wondering  about  Mongolia  lately?  I  think  they  have  around 3 million people  there  and  around  900,000  of  them  live  in  Ulaan  Batar  the  Capitol.  They  are  famous  for  being  nomadic   living  in yurts (spelling?)  and  being  good horsemen  but that's  about  all I  know.

A) Has  any one  ever  met  a mongolian  and  what  lind  of  people  are  they?  (I  never  met  a  mongolian  I  didn't  like  ha ha ha)

B)  Being  nesteled   between  China  and  Russia  are  they  an  independent  country  or  just  a  region  or  territory?  Are  they  Communist / socialistic ?

C) Did  Genghis  Khan  and  his  mongol hordes   introduce the  idea  of  the  Mongolian  BBQ? - where  they  cook  the heaping  plate  of  ingredients  you  choose with  long  wooden  stickd  on top  of  a large  round  stone,  and  if  you put  money  in  their  tip  jar  they  will  re adjust  the  flavor so  it  will be  somewhat palatable to  eat  ha ha ha

2)  Where  exactly  is  Manchuria?  and  why  have  they  been  some  what  dispised  over  the   years  as  being  rulers  of  China  during  Various Dynasties as  if  they were  not  true  Chinese?

Things  that  make  you  go  Hmmm

Windmill  Boy

[redpalm]

... in response to A few  general  questions  for  y'all, posted by Windmill Boy on Mar 23, 2002

1. Is Nepal a part of Mongolia?  Met a Nepalese once and thought they were all oriental, but he had caucasian features. He was here to study.
2. Don't know who originated Mongolian bbq, but it's a great make-your-own dish, you can choose the condiments and adjust the fire to your taste - love all variations thereof.

[Windmill Boy]

... in response to Re: A few  general  questions  for  y'al..., posted by redpalm on Mar 23, 2002

redpalm

It is  my  understanding  that  Mongolia  is  above china  somewhat towards  the  eastern  part of china.  While Nepal is  on the south  western  side of china  next to Tibet.

I have seen  documentaries  on  TLC  or  Discovrey  Channel  that have stated  that caucasians  have  made  a  presence  in Tibet  and possibly  Nepal  as  well on    established  trade  routes  well before  Marco  Polo  made  his trek  accross  asia.  They  have found  Hungarianesque  writting  / cloth  fabrics  in Caves  in  the  hills  that carbon  dated  to before  marco.

Nepal  also  borders  India  and  Pakistan  as well  as  china  I  think  and I  think  the  Nepalese  certainly  have  different  features  that  the  traditional  chinese  that  we  are  familiar  with.   I once  had  a  pakistani  friend  and  I asked him  how the  Chinese  looked  like at  the  border.  Did  they look like the  pakistani/ Indians on his  side  of the  border  or did  they  have  the  Traditional  Mongoloid  featues (yes  I have heard this  is  the  scientific  term for  their  apearence) that  we associate  with  the  Chinese.  I  think  he said  Chinese  /mongoloid    but  I  never  really  got  a  real  concrete  answer.  

That's  my  spin on it.

Windmill boy

[Jeff S]

... in response to Re: Re: A few  general  questions  for  ..., posted by Windmill Boy on Mar 23, 2002

Saw a TLC showe on mummies once where they discovered a a number of well preserved people in teh arid regions of Northwestern China from over 3000 years ago - all Caucasian. Also, Indians (from India, not native Americans) are Caucasian as are Australian aboriginies. I's imagine Nepalese are a combination of East Indians and Chinese.

-- Jeff S.

[Jeff S]

... in response to A few  general  questions  for  y'all, posted by Windmill Boy on Mar 23, 2002

Hey WB:

Don't know much about Mongolia, but do know a bit about Manchuria. Many of China's emporors were Manchu, but they kept themseves separated from the Chinese. The last emporor, Pu Yi was put in-place after the rebellion in 1911 when the many of the foreign government influence was thrown out of China and a kind of return to native Chinese culture and rule was order of the day. This didn't last long since Japan invaded Manchuria (the northeast corner of China) in the 1920s and eventually took over much of eastern China.

The Japanese invaders were a very cruel occupation army. The rape of Nanking, and the weapons testing experiments performed on the Manchurian people were as cruel and heartless as anthing the Germans did in that era. While China quit recognizing Pu Yi as an emporor, Japan realized his political value and installed him as emporor of Manchuria, that the Japanese renamed Manchuko. The naieve emporor probably never realized he was a powerless figurehead. Most of the accounts call him a "puppet ruler" though he was hardly any kind of ruler. Having been isolated from the world since the age of 5 in the forbidden city being attended to by leigons of eunichs, he was hardly any kind of charismatic leader of men, nor student of world affairs. He only know that he could remain emporor if he just folowed the Japanese.

The Chinese people enduring many years of rape, murder, and terrorism at the hands of the Japanese hated Pu Yi, as you can imagine, as he proudly sood beside their slave masters. Here's a link with more info if you're interested:
http://www.royalty.nu/Asia/China/PuYi.html

The movie "The last Emporor" and quite a few others, have dealt with the early 20th century Chinese history in a fairly historic manner. Of course you have to wade through the romanticizing and leftwing tilt the Hollywood spinmeisters seem to put on everything.

-- Jeff S.

[Windmill Boy]

... in response to Re: A few  general  questions  for  y'al..., posted by Jeff S on Mar 23, 2002

Thanks  Jeff

So  manchuria  is  the area  above  and  to  the  east  of Bejing  and  Shanghai.  It  is  also  interestiing  to  know  some of  the history  that  lead  up  to  his reign  with  the  Japanese  background.   I  have  been  watching  the  History  channel  and  I  have  some  of  the  Shows  depicting  some  of  the  things  that  went  on  in  asia  during  WW II  and  it  was  a  nasty  situation.  Right now  I  am  taking  a  breather  for  a  couple  minutes  with  IM'ing  with  my  Japanese   friend masami.  and  planning the  next  get together in  a  couple  of  weeks.

Catch  you  later

Windmill boy