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Author Topic: Bogota Vet.  (Read 3703 times)
shadow
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« on: March 25, 2002, 05:00:00 AM »

Sorry I am so slow to respond to your previous question re tour agencies.

The opinions expressed here are simply my own. Take it or leave it as you see fit.

Quite frankly, I simply cannot recommend ANY tour agency or introduction site. Several years ago, I started out in this quest by using a tour agency, after carefully selecting one that I thought was legit.   That was my first mistake.

In ancient times, (pre internet) this process was much different than it is now. At that time a person wrote to someone, and waited. After many weeks, sometimes a person would get a response. Sometimes not.
The people doing this at that time had to be very patient and devoted.

Now, it is quite simple as compared to then. Most filipinas now have friends or relatives that have found their knight in shining armor on the internet. They look around and see their friends with new cell phones, cd players, nice clothes, and are on their way to the land of milk and honey. The result is they rush down and post thier own pic and profile in the hopes of finding their own knight. However, it is so easy to do now that it seems it has brought in a whole new clientele. Many of the girls doing this now (not all, but many) are in this mainly for money or to go to the promised land. Love, family, and devotion are not as important to them as is the promise of money and/or a better life.

I made the same mistake many guys make. I had a very limited time and budget that I could donate to my quest. The result? I was in a big hurry, and didn't take enough time to see the thorns on the roses. There are some couples who have made this method work, but I think the odds of success this way are diminishing rapidly. You simply cannot know someone well enough by spending a week or two in their company, then by communicating via emails, phone, etc, to know for sure what drives them. They are SOOoo nice, and sweet, and seem so innocent. If you think that innocent face doesn't have the capability to lie, you may be in for a rude awakening. Sometimes they can turn into a whole different person when they get off the plane, or after they have been here a while.

You asked for my recommendation, and here it is. Go to the PI. Do not go with the intention of finding the girl of your dreams, but rather go to learn about the culture and way of life. Eat the food. Learn parts of the language. Ride the jeepneys and tricycles. Girls are EVERYWHERE. If you spend time wandering around, not a single day will go by that 3, 6, or even 10 girls will not start asking questions about you. Every other taxi driver will want to fix you up with his sister or cousin. Take your time and enjoy your vacation. But treat it as a vacation, and not as though you are shopping for a new washing machine. You don't need a tour guide to do this. Many people here, me included, will be more than happy to assist you in where to go, what to do, what NOT to do, etc. (I, myself, know of lots of things NOT to do!:))

Take a good healthy look at what it is you want out of life, and if you can spare the time and expense to spend a considerable amount of time in the PI. If you don't have the time and money to do so, your odds of success are going to drop considerably. You will be setting yourself up to be taken advantage of.

The tour operators want you to believe thier success rate is 90% or better. That is pure bu**. One thing you should know about the PI and many of it's people, they have mastered the art of telling you whatever they think it is you want to hear. They tell you this for a number of reasons. To save face. Because they don't want to appear unhelpful. To make a sale.  Many of the tour operators have adopted this trait. They will tell you these are all "nice girls", that all they want is a good man to love and cherish.  Truth is, most of the time they don't even KNOW them!  

I wish you luck, whatever you decide to do.

Larry.

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Howard
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« Reply #1 on: March 27, 2002, 05:00:00 AM »

... in response to Bogota Vet., posted by shadow on Mar 25, 2002

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Ray
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« Reply #2 on: March 26, 2002, 05:00:00 AM »

... in response to Bogota Vet., posted by shadow on Mar 25, 2002

...but in my opinion, you can be married to someone for years and still not "know for sure what drives them".

But I agree that marriage is always a big gamble FOR BOTH PARTIES and it's all about increasing the odds before you jump in.

You're right on Larry about making the first trip with the sole intention of experiencing the culture and enjoying a vacation. But I wonder though how many guys will actually do it that way? (sigh)

Looking forward to that trip report...

Ray

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Jeff S
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« Reply #3 on: March 26, 2002, 05:00:00 AM »

... in response to Bogota Vet., posted by shadow on Mar 25, 2002

Remember, in an informal survey we did last year, about 1/2 of the married or engaged people on this board met by introduction through friends, 1/4th from MOB means (chat rooms, address purchase, etc,) and 1/4th by accident while visiting the country. This means 3/4ths are by proximity to the people and culture and only 1/4 from the comfort of the keyboard.

-- Jeff S.

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JEM
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« Reply #4 on: March 26, 2002, 05:00:00 AM »

... in response to Bogota Vet., posted by shadow on Mar 25, 2002

Hmmm, that HONESTY issue again? This time the internet and quest for materialism to blame!
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Matthew
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« Reply #5 on: March 25, 2002, 05:00:00 AM »

... in response to Bogota Vet., posted by shadow on Mar 25, 2002

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greg
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« Reply #6 on: March 25, 2002, 05:00:00 AM »

... in response to Bogota Vet., posted by shadow on Mar 25, 2002

Keep up the good work, look forward to reading your trip report. Shocked) greg
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donb2222
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« Reply #7 on: March 25, 2002, 05:00:00 AM »

... in response to Bogota Vet., posted by shadow on Mar 25, 2002

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