Scam alert.

[Beamish]

Hi, I just returned from Kherson where i took a tour with "@@@@@" I had the extreme misfortune of meeting Svetlana #47960 on the Russian dreamgirls website ( I did not tour with Russian dreamgirls )
I spent the majority of the tour with Svetlana and she had me convinced she really was a nice girl and I asked her to marry me on the last day of the tour, the 27th of January, to which she said yes.

I was paying for an interpreter to translate for us every time I was with her, and didnt find out she spoke enough english to communicate to me without one until the night of my departure. In reflection I can't help but assume she wanted another person at our meetings in order not to be with me alone.


Toward the end of the evening of the 27th we were at a club, while I was away from the table , Svetlana asked my interpreter to go home, I thought it was because she wanted to spend some time with me alone, but it turns out she wanted to ask me for money. She first asked me in almost perfect english if I liked her body, to which I replied I didn't know because she always wore conservative clothes.  It didnt dawn on me at that time, but now I'm wondering if perhaps she was going to offer herself to me for money.. Im not sure, but  I believe that's a possibility.  After that she  said she needed a computer so she could communicate with me directly instead of through the agency, that she could buy one for 500 to 1,000 dollars.  She then asked me if I had money with me now , I told her that I couldn't get the money, that it was in the bank not in my pocket, very soon after that we left the club. I don't remember if it's because it was closing or if she suggested we leave.

On a side note, I couldn't help but notice when the waiter came to our table that Svetlana was very friendly to him, keeping him at the table talking for long periods of time when he came to serve food or drink.  I was away from the table for a few minutes and came back to find her over by the bar talking with him again which I thought was a little strange

When we left the club, Svetlana had no time to spend with me.

Beamish

[JohnL]

... in response to Scam alert., posted by Beamish on Jan 29, 2003

................ diving back into that *shark pool*, take the smart advice of one RW who posted here some time back, here it is;

"YOU had better learn from everyone elses mistakes first, because you arent going to live long enough to learn from your own".

Good luck next time! And not to soon I trust. :-)

J.

[Deckard]

... in response to Scam alert., posted by Beamish on Jan 29, 2003

Beamish,

Try not to let these guys get to you.

I think they're a pretty decent bunch.

But if they smell blood in the water .. some of them are like piranhas, and they'll eat you up for dinner.

But a week or a month from now they'll forget what they ate for dinner, and as long as you make sure you don't bleed anymore, they'll move on to other prey.

Please, don't stop posting.

Peace,

-Deckard

[MarkInTx]

... in response to Don't mind them, please, posted by Deckard on Jan 30, 2003


I think he should not stop posting.

I think he should definitely tell us the name of the good agency he found and used in Kherson.

I think there are MANY on the board who would like to know who that was.

I wonder why he won't do that...

(I smell something... but it ain't blood...)

[wsbill]

... in response to Scam alert., posted by Beamish on Jan 29, 2003

I'd have to say, that's a bit strange as well.

Hell, how many of you guys have gotten your lady a computer ?  My guess, not very many.

The icing on the cake was the mere fact she found the wait-staff more interesting that yourself.

Sounds like it's time to pass on this one and put another worm on the hook and see what else is bitting.

[Jski]

... in response to Re: She's only 18 years old and wants a ..., posted by wsbill on Jan 30, 2003

Mine already had one, but I bought her a new Monitor as the old one looked horrible, everything was green.  Same deal, her parents will get it when she leaves so they can keep up with their grandchild.

[Deckard]

... in response to Re: She's only 18 years old and wants a ..., posted by wsbill on Jan 30, 2003

.. get my fiancee a computer that is.

She actually asked for one before I came to meet her, asking if I could bring one from America. I turned her down, as nicely as I could, and she accepted it well. She never asked for a computer again, and finally, the day after we were engaged, I took her with me to get a computer for her to use while we apart. The shock and disbelief on her face was captured on my camera, she could not speak for a couple of hours .

She (and her sister I might add) uses it daily to correspond with me through e-mail.

Probably was the best ~600 dollars I've ever spent.

One day after we're together again and don't need to e-mail each other several times a day anymore, her family will continue use it to keep in touch as well.

Peace,

-Deckard

[KenC]

... in response to Scam alert., posted by Beamish on Jan 29, 2003

Beamish,
As more of your story has been posted, I would like to ask you now where is the scam?  Was it that you thought she wasn't sincere in her acceptance of your proposal?  You write that you were going to use the K-1 time to get to know her better.  Maybe she had the same thoughts, so she is as guilty as you.  Many guys here have provided computers to their fiancee's so as to improve communication.  It was a little bold of her to ask for a computer and for that she may be judged as having bad judgement or even bad character.  For a fiancee to ask her beloved to provide a computer to facilitate communication is not a scam, (at least not in my book).  When asked if you liked her body, seems like a perfectly reasonable question between two people in love, who are engaged to be married.  A little reassurance for her self confidance is certainly not a crime.  Your assumption that she may have wanted payment for sexual favors cannot be concluded from what you posted.  So, Mr. Beamish, just where is her scam?  The worst she crime is guilty of is poor judgement in accepting a proposal of marriage from a complete stranger.  But then again, what crime is commited by the stranger doing the asking?
KenC

[Stan B]

... in response to hmmmm, posted by KenC on Jan 30, 2003

It sounds to convenient to claim scammer when he sounds to be the one guilty of using exceptionally poor judgement.
And my question to him would be what led him to believe that there was anything there to warrant a proposal in the 1st place?

[Dan]

... in response to I agree, posted by Stan B on Jan 30, 2003

In March?

My wife's getting the bug to go see the islands.

Nice place?

- Dan

[Stan B]

... in response to Stan - What Can You Tell Me About Waikol..., posted by Dan on Jan 30, 2003

Its a beautiful resort area on the west coast of the big island of Hawaii. There are quite a few nice resorts including the Hilton Waikoloa village, http://www.hiltonwaikoloavillage.com/ and the Mauna Lani http://www.maunalani.com/accommodations/index.asp are both top of the line resorts. Another nice resort is the Marriott http://www.marriott.com/dpp/PropertyPage.asp?MarshaCode=KOAMC That area gets very little rain and is known as the sunniest spot in the islands. Its also about a 2-3 hour drive from the volcano, which is a nice all day trip.

[Oscar]

... in response to Re: Stan - What Can You Tell Me About Wa..., posted by Stan B on Jan 31, 2003

[This message has been edited by Oscar]

We are planning a trip to Hawaii in June (we are on a priority wait list using award miles on Delta).  Have to wait till June as her kidlet will be out of school and my sister (a teacher also out of school), will be able to take him for 8-10 days.

I have been to Europe 6 times but never to Hawaii.  I have talked to a lot of people who have been there and they say if you only go to 2 islands, it should be Maui and Kauai.  Do you agree??

Delta flies into Oahu 2x per day but to Maui only 1x per day so it's tougher to get flights into there it seems, but they told me we will likely get filled for the Maui flight on the priority wait list.  Hope so, I really have no desire to go to Honolulu.

Trying right now to go through the maze of hotels on both islands..  Hotels.com just became a partner with Delta and they told me (as did a helpful Delta rep) that other travel agencies like Delta Vacations buy their hotel rooms from places like Hotels.com and then just tack their profit on top..

I went to the Hotels.com website and found some seemingly reasonable rates at hotels on both islands ($80-$95 per night), much more reasonable than through Delta Vacations!  Only problem is, I have no clue which places are nice or well located or what!
Any ideas, aside from the major properties that are $200-$300 per night??

[Stan B]

... in response to Hey Stan-, posted by Oscar on Jan 31, 2003

Well anything in Kaanapali, Kahana, Napili, Kapalua or Wailea is probably going to be a nice place. Let me know what you found at hotels.com and I can give you a review. As for the islands, yes Oahu and Waikiki can be skipped as most of the island is just a big city on the beach. But the other 3 major islands, Maui, Hawaii & Kauai are all nice and what you'd picture Hawaii to be like. If I was doing a package I'd choice Maui and either of the other 2. You can't go wrong with either choice.
Let me know whats up and I'll see what I can do to help. I'll also look forward to meeting both of you, but my better 2 will be travelling back to Ukraine, as our daughter will also be out of school and they both can't wait to visit their family. Aloha

[Oscar]

... in response to Aloha, posted by Stan B on Jan 31, 2003

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[MarkInTx]

... in response to I agree, posted by Stan B on Jan 30, 2003

What was the address of your online pictures? Do you still have them up?

Victoria would like to see them if they are...