An RM's perception of AM

[Cold Warrior]

Late last year I met a RM in at Earl’s Court in London. He came over from Moscow for an exhibition and was selling matroshka dolls and other wooden and stone pieces. I spoke briefly with him but was surprised with the negative image he had of Western men. He thought that AM were puzzies for helping around the house, chores like cleaning, cooking, taking care of babies etc. I told him I was into MOB for RW. His advice was – be careful. RW are very strong women, they only pretend to be weak so as not to usurp the men, however if they sense any weakness in you they’ll kick your azz.

[MarkInTx]

... in response to An RM's perception of AM, posted by Cold Warrior on Jan 22, 2003


I think the Russian Man you met may have confused his  consonants... :-)

My wife is not weak. She is meek.

But that word, meek, has many meanings, so I want to be specific.

(After all, Jesus Christ and Moses were both described as meek... )

I heard "meek" defined once as "Power under control."

This describes my wife. It is not that she HAS to be submissive, it is that she chooses to be. We are talking about a woman who has an advanced degree, who lived under conditions that would break most Americans, and who -- on more than one occasion -- fought off muggers and would-be rapists. (She tells me that Kherson is one of the most dangerous cities in Ukraine...)

Also, a little tidbit I discovered, she can field-dress and reassmble an AK-47 in under 20 seconds! (Aren't Soviet schools wonderful? They teach the classics! )

She is NOT weak.

But she likes the fact that I am the head of the household, and I that assume these responsibilities. (Most of the time :-) Let's face it, she won’t ALWAYS like it.)

She doesn't expect me to do household chores. (She was surprised once when I went to refill my coffee. She told me a story of one time when she was married before. She made some stew and put it in the refrigerator for her husband, and then went to visit her father -- who lived five minutes away. She came home three hours later to find her husband was angry with her. "I was starving!" he told her. "But you had stew in the refrigerator!" she told him. "And no one to heat it up!" was his reply.)

She does expect me to provide, and take care of the "head of the house" duties. Mainly, that has meant being arbiter in the children's disputes.

There are other things she expects, but these are the kind of things that I hardly consider a duty :-)

But I CERTAINLY wouldn't say that she is weak. And, I also would not say that she even pretends to be weak.

She is a strong woman, who has chosen to be submissive. There is a world of difference between that and being weak...

FWIW

[Cold Warrior]

... in response to RW's are weak?, posted by MarkInTx on Jan 22, 2003

I have hear other RW use weak to describe themselves. maybe it is a literal translation from the Russian.I don't know. i think meek is the more appropiate term. You are correct about meek being "power under control". THe word meek actully evolved from a Latin term used to describe a tame horse - very powerful but under control.
Blessed are the meek

What's this about kherson being a dangerous place? I've browsed a number of agencies there and no mention was made of this.

I see you have some firepower on your hands. LOL. How fast is she blindfolded on the Ak 47?

[MarkInTx]

... in response to Weak and meek, posted by Cold Warrior on Jan 22, 2003

As for Kherson's reputation, I have no idea... I never read that anywhere, either, but Victoria has told me a few times.

How about that? You think the marriage agencies would keep something like that from us?

Nah...

I have no idea how fast she can do the AK 47 blindfolded. We're inAmerica now. I only have M16s here ;-)

It was funny when she told me that. She was telling me about how she was going to help my daughter in school (she's in 3rd grade.)

I told Victoria: "I don't know... this subject is really hard for her, and she gets discouraged."

And she says: "It doesn't matter. It is like when I was in school. I had a very difficult time taking apart the gun..." and then she relates this story. All the while I am looking at her long painted fingernails and I'm thinking: "She field-dressed an AK-47 in HOW long?!?"

BTW, the soviets also taught her how to throw a hand grenade.

So, in the even that our church is not ATF approved, I guess we're set...

[BURKE89]

... in response to Re: Weak and meek, posted by MarkInTx on Jan 23, 2003

I've recieved some odd responses on our old "2nd." My cousin's "Russian friends" in Chicago (decent, family oriented folk), have the wildest views on this subject.

Come to think about it,I'll start a new thread - sans grenades.

You Texans & your arsenal...

[MarkInTx]

... in response to ATF approved -places of worship... LOL, posted by BURKE89 on Jan 23, 2003

Probably everyone has forgotten that incident.

But it was viewed VERY differently here in Texas.

Just a bunch of Federal Agency types trying to justify their existence.

Koresh was in town every week. The Sheriff of Waco told the FBI that there was no need to storm the compound, he could simple call him and tell him to come in for a meeting, and he would.

But they had to rush the compound in their "own peculiar idiom" as John Cleese says in The Holy Grail.

There... how's that for obscure references :-)

DM would be pround :-)

[BURKE89]

... in response to Yeah. And don't forget compounds...., posted by MarkInTx on Jan 23, 2003

I'm on your side, mate.

Certainly, not the "Feds" and their tanks/bombs or other muderous devices, being used upon Christians.

I've relayed Waco & Ruby Ridge info. to a great many Russians, Texan.

O.C. = Texas

... at least, that's what the youngsters south of Del Rio say...

[MarkInTx]

... in response to Whoah...., posted by BURKE89 on Jan 24, 2003

"O.C. = Texas "

Stumped me.

Damn, I hate it when that happens!

[BubbaGump]

... in response to OK... I admit, posted by MarkInTx on Jan 24, 2003

He's saying Orange County (in California) = Texas.  Orange County is pretty conservative but not what it used to be.

[Griffin]

... in response to Re: OK... I admit, posted by BubbaGump on Jan 25, 2003

I had assumed O.C. was Ontario, Canada.

He referred to the youngsters south of Del Rio - they be Mexicanos.

Que pasa?

[BURKE89]

... in response to I'm still a little FOGged..., posted by Griffin on Jan 25, 2003

Bubba is correct. I have relatives in a small town south of Del Rio. They love visiting this side of the family in O.C. or San Diego. Particularly the former, hence my semi-understandable correlation.

They're not "Mexicanos," however.

[Griffin]

... in response to Here is a wiper for ya..., posted by BURKE89 on Jan 26, 2003

John Kenneth Galbraith wrote that, "We all view the world as coterminous with our own horizons."  A fact that is demonstrated repeatedly (and often forcefully) each day on this board.

My contribution was to assume that you meant Del Rio, Texas.  I see now that there is a Del Rio, California.

Do you also have a Cut-N-Shoot?  :-)

[BURKE89]

... in response to You know that I once was blind....., posted by Griffin on Jan 26, 2003

Was it the reading of J.K Galbraith that created this previous condition?

I agree with the sentiment of his quote, in relation to the board, however. Thank you, I simply never had a great fondness for his ilk.

No, it is Del Rio, Texas.

Now, on this Cut-N-Shoot contraption... I'm truly baffled here. Is this some utilitarian tool for the "masses," that I musn't be without?

Please do advise.

[Griffin]

... in response to I'm sorry to hear that., posted by BURKE89 on Jan 27, 2003

are the rusting assets of a now defunct megawatt radio station that used to advertise the sale of baptismal units with "genuine walk-on water" and the somewhat sovereign state of Mexico.

If the "BURKE" of your persona is a reference to Edmund, then I understand your fondness for aesthetic obscurity.

Are you a Royalist as well?  :-)

[BURKE89]

... in response to Immediately south of Del Rio, Texas........, posted by Griffin on Jan 27, 2003

Yes, you've unmasked me, as your fellow Texan did to another recent charlatan. My "classical liberal" infiltration of P-L has been thwarted, dead in its tracks. Urgh...

Now, with regard to "aesthetic obscurity" & "Royalist" notions:

Old "Eddie's" thoughts, though aesthetically pleasing, really aren't that obscure at all. For they live, in most civilized peoples hearts. They just need a little prodding sometimes, 'tis all.

Now, this Royalist bees wax is rather disconcerting.

My only defense would come fro... an explanation which comes straight out of the: Winona Ryder Cookbook of Plausible Explanations that Somehow Fail to Convince.

Cheers,

Evil O.C. lad

Btw, in an effort to assume relevance to P-L; how is the Russian minority treated in Uzbekistan? I've recently acquired a very interesting book on the former Central-Asian Republics. I'll pop the info, if you would like.