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Author Topic: Police Certificate  (Read 3613 times)
Jack
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« on: January 14, 2003, 05:00:00 AM »

Griff, Tom, let me take a minute and try to add a little light to a gray area.

First let me say that with, in my opinion, 75% of the ladies who apply for police certificates, they really do not run into any great problems. Let's talk about those in the 75% group first. Ladies who have lived in the same city and region most there lives can usually go to there local OVIR office (police station) and ask for a police certificate and get them completed by the local authorities.

Now, I have witnessed some OVIR offices telling some ladies it will take one month. Many of the ladies did not expect this and the OVIR official let's them know that it could be expedited for a fee. I have seen this fee (pay-off) run from $40 to $100 and the report being ready within five days to a week. I have also seen ladies who did not pay the expedited fee (pay-off) and the report take a full month and the cost is only like $3 or $4 (As I re-call. It may be more, or less, but it's not much). Sometimes you will run across an OVIR office where everything is on the up and up and a lady can get her report in less than a week for this standard fee of only a couple of dollars.

In most of the major cities you have individuals (or companies) who do this for a living, that is, putting together the police certificate package. This is what I personally did and what I really recommend most guys to do, but many Russian ladies, because most are frugal with money, say they can do it themselves, and they can, but they do not have such a good understanding as to what is really going on. I would tell all you guys to have one of these individuals who do this for a living to do your police report as well as the birth certificate, the translation and notary. I think I paid something like $70 or $80 for all this to be done for my wife. It's really the way to go in my opinion. These are the neatest little packages. The papers are tied together with wax string and all very official looking. And done by hand. When my Natalia had gotten her's all done she sent the packages to me in the states and I included them in my K-1 package to the INS, which I know saved me about three weeks in time as I was given an interview date over the phone by the people at the Warsaw Embassy, but that was in the good ole days, before 9-11 and the more intense security checks.

Now for those who do it themselves they just go to there local OVIR and indicate they need a police certificate  done on themselves for a fiancé visa. This certificate is pretty much the same form through out Russia and Ukraine, although there could be some minor variances. Other countries of the FSU certificates will vary a little more. I understand that one can also get this form at the Russian or Ukraine Embassies.

I really don't think you need to have any other paperwork associated with the K-1 or packet 3. Packet 3 just tells you this is one of the items you need to get. Now with the way things are changing with the whole K-1 visa process maybe things have changed but these were pretty much the way things were not too long ago.

Griff, it is my understanding that in your case, your lady who is now living in Uzbekistan and she used to live in Ekaterinburg, she does NOT have to go there in person and that she could have a relative get this on her behalf, or she could even telephone and request for such information to be sent to her. I do not think it is a legal requirement that she must be present and request this herself.

I read where Apk indicates his wife saying that she needs to do this herself, well if it is in the city you live in that is probably correct but I know of many situations where ladies who used to live in other cities several years earlier did not have to go to these cities but were able to request these reports and they did receive them. I don't want to say that Apk wife is wrong, I just know without any doubt that many times ladies have been able to request and receive these certificates without having to go to Siberia, or Moscow or wherever themselves. But I suspect if it is in the city that you are living in at the time, she is correct.

Now to address if you are in this 25% group where you are experiencing some problems. My advice would be to find someone, or an agency, that offers this service and have them to do this for you, or if your fiancée wants to do it herself, or in your case Griff, your father-in-law, then you need to be prepared to offer a little "expedite" fee in order to clear any hurdles.

Griff, I think it is a sure bet if your father-in-law was to offer a little extra compensation there will be nyet a problem.

It is my opinion that the local OVIR offices see dollar signs whenever a lady request's one. These officials have learned that both the lady and the man are anxious to get this done and if these officials tell the lady it will take a month, in most cases it is understood and/or indicated that the process could be speed up a little $$.

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yoe
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« Reply #1 on: January 15, 2003, 05:00:00 AM »

... in response to Police Certificate, posted by Jack on Jan 14, 2003

Mav is number 1 appropriately
Mark is number 2 obviously
for the layman ie Mav...
1 =piss
2=shyt
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Griffin
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« Reply #2 on: January 15, 2003, 05:00:00 AM »

... in response to Police Certificate, posted by Jack on Jan 14, 2003

Same day turnaround!
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Griffin
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« Reply #3 on: January 15, 2003, 05:00:00 AM »

... in response to Police Certificate, posted by Jack on Jan 14, 2003

I should know more today about how her father is doing.
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TomTx
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« Reply #4 on: January 15, 2003, 05:00:00 AM »

... in response to Police Certificate, posted by Jack on Jan 14, 2003

nt....
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Apk1
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« Reply #5 on: January 14, 2003, 05:00:00 AM »

... in response to Police Certificate, posted by Jack on Jan 14, 2003

Jack I am sure you have many more stories to tell about this process, I think my wife had such a traumatic experience with her police report that she took nothing to chance.

In the good old days....prior to 9-11, the police reports came from one central office in Moscow...I forget what it what was called... my wife requested her report and was in her hand in plenty of time, took 2 weeks. About 5 weeks before her interview she read that the embassy changed the rules, and now wanted a report from her local OVIR office.
She sent her mother down to the office along with her passport...they said NYET, she must do it in person. She went the next day before going to work, paid the $3 and was told it will be a one month wait!
She called me and told me the problem...it was I that suggested a little bribe to expedite things....she laughed at such a suggestion. From what she tells me, sure...you Americans can offer bribes...you will not get into any trouble!

She sent her mother a week later with a little motivation to speed up the paperwork, some chocolate.....she was refused the offer....but was told to come back the next day and it would be ready Smiley

The day of her interview was 9-17, a week after the bombing in New york. She had 2 police reports and was hopeful she had everything covered.....funny thing though....they only wanted the first one, not the one that was indicated on their web site.

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Jack
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« Reply #6 on: January 15, 2003, 05:00:00 AM »

... in response to Re: Police Certificate, posted by Apk1 on Jan 14, 2003

Apk, I am glad things worked out well for you and the wife.

Apk, I am curious, how have things worked out with Olga? Is she doing ok, how does she feel now about seeking marriage with a foreign man?

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Apk1
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« Reply #7 on: January 15, 2003, 05:00:00 AM »

... in response to Re: Re: Police Certificate, posted by Jack on Jan 15, 2003

Jack...you remember the Olga (her real name was Yulia) episode?
For those of you who did not read about it...
A young girl from Odessa, Ukraine was found by a good Samaritan walking the streets in my hometown and taken to the police station. Her story was that she was here on a k-1 visa but the guy turned out to be a low-life....she wanted to go back home and he refused to give her a return ticket home.
The police contacted a travel agent who remembered my russian wife to act as a translator for the police....
..Yulia spoke very little english.
The money was raised by a charity and Yulia was sent back to Moscow and a train ride to Kiev, my wife followed up with her the next week to see if she arrived safely..that was the end of it, we never heard anything more about it except that the police were going to investigate the scumbag for other activites....they think he was a drug dealer.

We have not heard a thing since...

Now my opinion of her was that she expected to be treated as a princess, and she arrived to find that her prince was a frog...with no money and living in a cheap apartment.

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