... in response to But of course, posted by MarkInTx on Jan 2, 2003MarkinTex, I was hoping to have the same type deal with you as you have with LP. However, as you want to take your cheap shots as me, much as your brother did, I feel I must reply.
I don't think you realize you are a habitual liar, or you just try to slander me whenever you can, or you just have a LOT of slips of the tongue
From MarkinTex.......Well, the term is "banned" and it is (as always) Patrick's call... but I didn't get the sense that this was a cooling off period". ....Well you were WRONG again heh oh MarkinTex boy.
From MarkinTex.......And, as I pointed out, the "VO" amongst this board's success far outweigh the "VM". The WOVO method remains, I am convinced, the most successful. I am merely speaking of statistics that are rarely talked about.........Oh, is this so. Well please Mr. Expert, know it all wannabe MarkinTex, where are these statistics you speak of. I would like to see them? Especially after you say this with respect to statistics "The Problem WIth Statistics. There are three kinds of lies: Lies, Damm Lies, and Statistics." I guess if there were statiscal reports you liked, then of course they would be the good statistics and not fall into the catagory you consider most statistics. I suspect you are saying this because you did it this way MarkinTex. You are hoping to justify the shortcomings in your own search by making it sound like it is the most popular way when in reality it is the minority (in my opinion based on working with over a thousand men) who WOVO.
From MarkinTex.....The fact is that most women who will respond so quickly to a new ad are usually scammers.....Oh is that right Mr. Know-it-all expert. Please, will you share with us where these facts are? For someone to so boldly claim as a matter of fact, I am sure you will have no problems in showing us, proving to us your source. Or maybe this was another "slip of the tongue!"
From MarkinTex......If you write many women with the intention of seeing all of them, it will inhibit your ability to draw intimate through the letters. (I am speaking of emotional intimacy, not sexual).......Well Dr. MarkinTex, I know many, many men who differ from what you are expressing as fact. YOU are dangerous for all the newby's as to the advice you pass on as fact!.
Your constant slips of the tounge and self proclaimed knowledge is what concerns some of us about how much damage and harm you can cause to newby's.
From MarkinTex.......If I remember Dan's story, he was there on business, and met his wife as a by-product of that...Wrong again MarkinTex. Dan's original visits were looking for a Russian bride. Dan then began to look for potential business opportunites that might help him to increase the frequency of visits to the FSU that he could make as well as possiably being able to spend half the year in the FSU due to any potential business he might be able to create.. Dan took his time, met many sincere, wonderful ladies before finding a GOOD Russian woman.
From MarkinTex....You mentioned that Ken was a WOVO guy... (So am I, and I admit my bias). However, so is -- if I remember -- Patrick, Oatmeal, Stan, in fact...MOST that I can think of........Well MarkinTex, WRONG again!! Ken did visit more than one. Ken, after meeting some 3 or 4 other ladies, only confirmed what he already knew and felt. With Oatmeal, HOW can you say Oatmeal WOVO??? Hell, he must have visited 6 alone in Kiev, then he went to Dnepropetrvosk, meet many and Odessa and meet several before meeting his future bride. And this was just on his last trip. He met many ladies on his first trip. WOVO for Oatmeal, indeed MarkinTex! And Stan, well we all know he visited at least two ladies MarkinTex.
From MarkinTex........If you are looking for things like Broadway shows, or movies, or interesting street life, then Kiev is a bad place to go......... UNBELIEVABLE, and this is the type of bullcrap that you always spew MarkinTex, just pure stupidity and mis-leading information. There is not one city of the FSU that I have ever visited that had a more interesting street life than Kiev. Ask any "sane" man who has visited Kiev on a Saturday or Sunday night and see what they say about the street life in the center of Kiev. And St. Andrewsky, what an un-believable street so full of life and vigor.
From MarkinTex....And as for calling his behavior childish, I was merely echoing Patrick's own words when he banned him. ....Mark, I think this is another one of your many lies. I have looked and looked as to where Patrick referred to my "childish behavior" and I cannot find such, or re-call such, and I am sure I would have remembered such words from Patrick. No oh blowhard MarkinTex, I think these are your words and I certaintly will need to apoligize for calling you a liar and one who is so adapt to slanderous statements should you be able to show me these words from Patrick.
As told to you by a well respected, long time contributor to the P-L board,..Mark, no wonder that your (selective) reading skipped over that. You consistently 'see' whatever it is you want to see - and more importantly, are blind to those things you choose not to look at. The unfortunate part of it is that you are so massively-egotistical that you don't seem to be able to consider the value in what others offer. Even worse is that others will likely suffer from your myopia.
From MarkinTex.....I did find it amazing that he couldn't let go of his dispute with Mark H....More selective memory gaps from you, or one of those many slips of the tounge you seem to make. Jack was able to ignore your brother, I only responded to his remarks after he was un-able to let his dispute with me go. You seem to only remember things as you wish them to be MarkinTex.
From MarkinTex.......He DID run off other agency owners......Mr. Liar, err I mean MarkinTex, I exposed a problem I had with Dmitry with KharkovGirls a few years ago, can you name one of the other agency owners I ran off? Ofcourse not, YOU lie again!
From MarkinTex...."Isn't the whole point of being infatuated?" "After all, infatuated (last time I looked) means "To make foolish; to weaken the intellectual powers of, or to deprive of sound judgment." Can Love blind us to truths, and lead us to make a mistake? Oh, sure." .....Man, you got that one right MarkinTex.
From MarkinTex.....Mark H claimed that Jack had a vested interest in both agencies he "recommended." Jack admitted that he had an interest in one of those, but claimed the other one was just an agency he knew was honest.....Another of your many, many, many lies MarkinTex. Jack never said he had any interst in any other agency, because he has none! But you, in your attempt to distort have no problems with twisting the truth, out and out lies, if it will help to prove a point you are trying to make.
From MarkinTex.....The question raised was: Does Jack have a vested interest in the Agencies he named? ...Now let me ask, WHO raised this question (and why)? Give you one guess and a hint, one who has many slips of the tounge, marries very quickly, and from Texas.
From MarkinTex.....The moment one poster was banned... suddenly another person "seemed" to disappear... making him postulate whether a ban of one person would also get that person's alias....Aawwwww, what a shame MarkinTex. Too bad, only a day later BarryM posted and thus shot down another lie you were hoping to create in your own image.
From MarkinTexas.....Also, when you sign on with Firstdream, you sign on to a certain methodology and while there is nothing inherently wrong with that either, it is not for everyone. You need to do what you feel comfortable with. .....You got that right MarkinTex. I protect my clients from scammers and s1uts. As such, I'm not for everyone, but damn proud of those that I am for!
From MarkinTexas......[Side note: Part of the fun of this board is that some guys on here have multiple identities. So, you know those "two gladiators" in the penalty box? One of them has changed uniform jerseys and is back on the ice. Can't you tell?] ...To my knowledge, yes... only one participant is back. But, he'll be allowed to stay until he reveals himself.....This "new guy" will be different. He has a vested interest in staying "incognito."
Then on 10-21 you made this statement "I have more "evidence" about Jack's new identity".......Mark, as a lot of posters on P-L had commented, you took a lot of cheap shots at me while I was gone for a few weeks. Here you are indicating that one of the two "gladiators" was back, the one who had a vested interest. MarkinTex, I would like to call you an out and out liar on what you were trying to indicate to the P-L board with these, your slanderous remarks aimed at me. And as you publicly stated YOU have more "evidence" about Jack's new identity. Please, present your evidence, or perhaps, it was another slip of the tounge.
From MarkinTex.....I don't know about you, but I DID use Jack to post a personal ad in Ukraine. I got it run in some "Destiny" newspaper for three weeks. That's it. One paper. Three placements....Wrong again LIAR MarkinTex. Your ad was ran in several different newspapers. Destiny was only one of the newspapers your ad was run in. More slanderous lies, or another slip of the tounge.
From MarkinTex.....Yes, Globetrotter... Listen to BarryM. He should know. Of ALL of the agencies that he has never used, he likes Jack's the best. Of all of the agencies that have never given him service, Jack's -- by far -- was the best service never used. And of all of the Agency owners he has ever not utilized, Jack is by far the most experienced. ...MORE LIES from MarkinTex. MarkinTex, how can you make such claims without having any ideal as to the accuracy of your statements? BarryM HAS used Firstdream! Barry has used my services! BarryM HAS utilized Jack!! Two years ago BarryM was making all the preparations needed for his trip to the FSU, and I was honored he asked for my help, expertise and advice. How you can continue to make false statement after statement, I wonder if you realize you have this problem, or maybe it was another slip of the tounge.
From another well respected, long time memebr of P-L, making remarks to you directly MarkinTex...."You must think we're morons to believe *anything* you say. Once again, you offer advice on things you know nothing about.
From MarkinTex.....The Internet is a good source for information... but it is an equally good source for mis-information. This board HAS been very helpful. But it has also given me bad advice.....Oh nooooo, so that is what you are doing, giving bad advice now as pay-back!!I
I think I can take the exact same words you have used against another well respected member of the P-L board and apply to you....from MarkinTex. "He made all kinds of innuendos, and insinuations... That's the way he works. That way he can cast as much doubt as he wants to, and still deny it later. In fact, by making insinuations, he gets much more bang for his buck. Undeterred, he has continued to make insinuations -- all without a scrap of proof, mind you"...Aawww, like you MarkinTex. See MarkinTex, what goes around, comes around!
From MarkinTex on 10-21...Just remember that in a few short weeks, I'll be gone...... Lie MarkinTex, or slip of the tounge?
From MarkinTex.....I'm only here for a few more weeks, anyway, so it doesn't really matter. Once my lady gets here, I'm gone. ...Another Lie MarkinTex, or slip of the tounge?
From one of your previous frequent lies I called you on, your remarks,.."I can't prove it now, of course, since all of the posts were deleted. But I'm really sure that you made that comment (or one like it) in one of your posts. I would ask the rest of the board if they remember it."...Well MarkinTex, a couple thousand guys who read P-L and no one other that you remembers such a comment??
You read only what you want to read and make your personal judement calls. Because it is what you want to portray, the side of the story you want to portray! So in your case it is easier to plead ignorance, or I forgot, or I thought, or it was erased, in order for you to make many of your statements.
It seems you get away with too much stuff on this board MarkinTex, it is called slander, speaking out the side of your mouth and speaking with a forked tounge!
MarkinTex you and I have a totally different approach to the search for a Russian bride. Of course you want to think your way is the best and you preach it, but when I see what you did, and how you did it, I think your methods are very detremental to most men and will continue to advise and lead men away from your methods and standards.
