I need your help

[Natalya]

I was reading on RWA forum story of woman whos husband refuse to complete documents for her GC.She live in US for 4 months already and her fiance visa had expired month ago.Husband absolutely refuse to complete any documents, she doesn't have car, no English,no money, basically she is prisoner in his house. Here is my question: Is there way to make this man to complete paperwork for her or it is not possible? Thanks

[wsbill]

... in response to I need your help, posted by Natalya on Apr 3, 2002

I'm starting to see a trend now...

Look at Natalya profile and she types some pretty good english... HELLOOOOOOo

[wsbill]

... in response to Re: This is TROLL  BAIT., posted by wsbill on Apr 4, 2002

And those who know russian can read it for what it's worth.

[Charles]

... in response to Re: This is TROLL  BAIT., posted by wsbill on Apr 4, 2002

Natalya doesn't seem like a troll to me, FWIW.  However, I take a different spin on this post.  Whether someone can help this lady obtain AOS is questionable since without the husband's signature on the I-864 Affidavit of Support any I-485 application is going to be denied and, moreover, even with the required documents, in many INS offices you must prove to the INS a bona fide marriage through a thorough and sifting examination of property records, insurance records and, ideally, photos of a real wedding, not a brief courthouse ceremony.  Nor is he "harboring an illegal"  since it is HER legal obligation to file for AOS, not the husbands.  In defense of the husband, maybe it just didn't work out, however, based on the description he sounds very unstable and controlling.  I have known several AM/RW marriages that have not worked out and, in every case, an overcontrolling man and unrealistic expectations from the RW are at the root of the problem.  These issues should be thoroughly and honestly explored by BOTH PARTIES at all stages of the relationship beginning with the initial correspondence and this dialogue should continue before she gets on that plane for America.  If this would happen more often, a lot of unpleasantness can be avoided.

[Mike]

... in response to Re: Re: This is TROLL  BAIT., posted by Charles on Apr 4, 2002

You wrote, " photos of a real wedding, not a brief courthouse ceremony" Well this may make you feel confident when you go for your interview but that is not as important as the fact that you have a certified marriage certificate, and if you had a lot of bells and whistles to throw in with it is not a requirement. Heck they never even looked at the evidense I took to our interview, they only wanted to see passports and an EAD card. I'm sure every office is different but I doubt you must have a big wedding, or drag in your towels that have your names on each of them. A few photos having fun together, some bills, joint checking account, or an apartment lease with both your names will do and you can take all of these or some of these.

Nor is he "harboring an illegal" since it is HER legal obligation to file for AOS, not the husbands.

True it is her responsibility but the facts are she is here past her 90 day visa regardless of marriage, and if he is married to her and filed for her k-1 then he must know she is here out of statis which now means illegal!
Mike

[Charles]

... in response to How sure are you?, posted by Mike on Apr 5, 2002

See my post above.  I agree that a formal wedding is not required, but if all you have is a marriage certificate you may face a real grilling over all of your other documents.  The INS is looking to see if it is a bona fide marriage and not one solely to gain permanent resident status.  If you're not prepared, you may have to do it again.  In this instance, if the husband is non-cooperative in proceeding with the AOS paperwork, he is unlikely to add her to the other documents that the INS will require to show a bona fide marriage, such as joint property, joint bank account, health insurance, ect.  While many AOS interviews are easy, largely because the parties come over-prepared, I am aware of several situations where the initial application was rejected for lack of sufficient evidence.

[Mike]

... in response to How sure are you?, posted by Mike on Apr 5, 2002

I forgot to mention, although she is responsible for AOS it is also his responsibility! Everything you send when you're filing has his name written on it, plus the fact she can't file without his proof of sponsorship makes it impossible to do this without him, so he IS equally responsible for her AOS, and her abilities to leave, they are not stupid and realize he got her here and if it didn't work out then he is responible for getting her back before she is out of status. He maybe even more responsible! If she divorces this guy she will look better then he will because it will show the courts he is the bad guy in this situation and most likely veiw this as inslavement. I wouldn't be surprised if they give her a green card over this. She needs to search the archives in the Russian forums and find out what services are available to her as far as lawyer services and the rest to RW's that are being abused.
Mike

[Natalya]

... in response to Re: Re: This is TROLL  BAIT., posted by Charles on Apr 4, 2002

Thanks for you input, Charles.

[Dan]

... in response to Re: This is TROLL  BAIT., posted by wsbill on Apr 4, 2002

While I have been a bit direct with Natalya, I do not think she is a guy, nor do I think she is intentionally trying to draw us into a troll fest.

I choose to give her the benefit of the doubt and, as I have recently done, just ask her about her behaviors and what she intends to achieve. So long as I am comfortable with her responses (and I am), I will happily respond to her posts - if I feel I have something to contribute.

Just my $.02

- Dan

[Natalya]

... in response to Re: This is TROLL  BAIT., posted by wsbill on Apr 4, 2002

First of all I'm proud of my English.Second Cinderella speaks very good English and she lives in Russia. Third if I didn't answer on your post about life after 1991 it doesn't automatically made me a guy. Duh!

[wsbill]

... in response to Re: Re: This is TROLL  BAIT., posted by Natalya on Apr 4, 2002

You have all the American mannerisms down pat, along with writing it down.

Keep posting.

[Natalya]

... in response to Re: Speaking english is one thing but wr..., posted by wsbill on Apr 4, 2002

Thanks for permission.

[wsbill]

... in response to Re: Re: Speaking english is one thing bu..., posted by Natalya on Apr 4, 2002

LOL.

[terry]

... in response to I need your help, posted by Natalya on Apr 3, 2002

Natalya

Question- Did she type her story in English? I have leared that before I believe a story, Make sure it is true.  My problem with it is,  if she is married and here in America, how did she get on the computer and find the site if she does not speak English. Maybe there is something I do not know about this site.  However, let's say the story is true.  Did she tell you were she was living?  State, City, etc. The reason I ask this is, Maybe someone that lives close could call this man and talk to him. Now I know this could be a danger to her, but it is also  a danger  to her if she is in  this situation. We do not know the other side of the story. He may not have the money right now and is working on getting it togather and she does not understand that. There are  many things we do not know about this. but I would be willing to call the man and talk to him. But , only if he lived close to me so if there was a bad situation there then I may be able to do something to protect her if it is needed. I know, I have a solf heart. I just do not like to see other people being hurt in any way. but I would not want to call and get her in a bad situation to where she may be hurt by him.

 I can understand your concern Natalya, but I would want to know that what she is saying is true and not one of these trolls that speaks with the confidence that accompaines ignorant's

[Natalya]

... in response to Re: I need your help, posted by terry on Apr 4, 2002

I didn't translate the original story from Russian to English because it is pretty long. But some AM was reading this story in Russian on Russian Woman Abroad board and translated it.Please take a look if you interested on this thread. This thread related to the story I was asking your advice on.
http://members.m4d.com/forum/read/vika/267670/