Interesting Reading......

[Ryan]

How Feminists and the media influence the Domestic Violence issue…

I cam across an interesting little article today while doing some research for a paper on research techniques. (Quantitative vs. Qualitative)    Anyway I found some interesting statistics in the article.  As it relates to this board?  Just another case point of how the thinking of American women has been influenced by our media, the article clearly demonstrates that gender advocates have severely distorted this issue
Anyway enjoy..

http://www.lectlaw.com/files/fam27.htm

[KenC]

... in response to Interesting Reading......, posted by Ryan on Apr 5, 2002

Ryan,
Thanks for the post.  Your post and Jeff's below was an eye opener for me.  I admit to not reading it before I posted below.  The overall impact of both reports is that AW have again found a way to use their femininity and men's masculinity to their advantage.  Do not confuse the issue with the facts!  LOL.  Patrick's info on pay disparity is also interesting along the same lines.  There is a recent news report about a former actress attacking her hubby, who is a pitcher for the Angels.  To the credit of the police, she was arrested.  This is where our masculinity is used against us.  What man would report being abused by a woman?  Not many.
KenC

[Quasimoto]

... in response to Very Interesting Reading......, posted by KenC on Apr 6, 2002

Though I agree with much of the article, though not all, I do not see any science here, or footnotes and references! So is it what we want to believe or reality?

Steve

[Jeff S]

... in response to Re: Very Interesting Reading......, posted by Quasimoto on Apr 6, 2002

What about these references.. in response to Patricks?

-- Jeff S.

[Ryan]

... in response to Very Interesting Reading......, posted by KenC on Apr 6, 2002

Thinking in terms of the FSU the guys must really have it tuff.  First off they cannot cry (Not acceptable) do you think they would call the police and tell then they are getting beatup by their wife...LOL  FUnny just thinking about it..  Well not really that funny I guess...

[KenC]

... in response to Re: Very Interesting Reading......, posted by Ryan on Apr 6, 2002

Ryan,
The thing you have to understand is that RW respect men's masculinity.  This goes hand in hand with their being more feminine.  RW have no problem with being the weaker sex (physically), where as with AW the lines are somewhat more blurred.  RW even have a saying, "No beat, no love" in reffering to their men.
KenC

[Quasimoto]

... in response to Re: Re: Very Interesting Reading......, posted by KenC on Apr 6, 2002

Now that is sick! And the women's perspective is sick! I wonder where they learned that from?

Steve

[Ryan]

... in response to Re: Re: Very Interesting Reading......, posted by KenC on Apr 6, 2002

No beat, no love... come on I find that hard to believe, that is way screwed up...

[KenC]

... in response to Now that is just not right...., posted by Ryan on Apr 7, 2002

Ryan,
The statement is said in jest.  But in every jest there is some truth.
KenC

[BubbaGump]

... in response to Interesting Reading......, posted by Ryan on Apr 5, 2002

It was mentioned in a recent article about Andrea Yates (the woman in Texas that murdered her 5 kids), that women only commit 2 crimes with greater frequency than men.  They are: shoplifting and murdering their children.  My ex-wife threated to accuse me of abuse during our divorce and that my friends have experienced the same.  I have had women threaten to kill me for leaving them and I have had women assault me.  It's a good thing we are bigger because if women were bigger they would always be beating us up.

[Quasimoto]

... in response to I believe it, posted by BubbaGump on Apr 5, 2002

I have not experienced it, but I have seen it. All your comments are a sad reality of American life. What 1st World country has the highest murder rate, the highest rape rate, among others.

Steve

[Quasimoto]

... in response to Interesting Reading......, posted by Ryan on Apr 5, 2002

Never forget that the most vocal and one of the leading voices of the feminist movement was Brown University, who Chancelor and almost the entire administration were Lesbian feminists. It was this Chancelor who stated that "all sex with Men is Rape!"

I left the Crisis-line community because I wanted mother's of abused children (sexual and physical) by spouses and live-ins, to be held accountable for allowing this tragedy to occur with out proper interferance. I was told to get out! I was banned!

I do not want to shortchange the real problem. I agree with much of the article, but also it is true the there are more men who are controlling through intimidation and violence. That should not be forgotten. I do not know of any RWs who have come here and murdered or beat up their spouses, but I know of a lot of men who have done so. Don't lose sight on reality because of feminist distortion.

Steve

[KenC]

... in response to Re: Interesting Reading......but!, posted by Quasimoto on Apr 5, 2002

Steve,
You lead us to believe you know "a lot" of AM whome have beaten or killed their RW.  How many is "a lot"?
KenC

[Quasimoto]

... in response to define "a lot", posted by KenC on Apr 5, 2002

Ok! I know a few married couples personally. I know "OF" some married couples on this board, but nothing about them. I know of 3 RWs who have been murdered in the last 4 years, and I know of several 6-8 who are in abusive relationships. By abuse; all but one is physical. Of course I will know more of these examples, as it was an area of interest. I also have women write to me. If you go to the RussianWomen'sList, under psychology, you will see an article I wrote. So obviously I will get more contact than you Ken.

Steve

[KenC]

... in response to Re: define "a lot", posted by Quasimoto on Apr 6, 2002

Steve,
I think you are too close to this subject to be objective.  Your sensationalized opinions are slanted heavily in favor of women.  I am trying to separate the facts from your opinion here.
You say, "I know a few married couples personally."  Are these "few" couples AM/RW?  Are the RW being physically abused?  (Mental abuse is too vague to prove)  How many is a "few"? (I am looking for a number here.)
You say, "I know "OF" some married couples on this board."  That are in physically abusive relationships?  How many is "some"?  (Again, a number would be good here) I will give you credit for qualifying that you don't know these people.  So if you don't know them, how can your vague statement be credible?
You say, "I know of 3 RWs who have been murdered in the last 4 years."  We all know of the recent trial and conviction of the man in Seattle.  Are your two other examples from news stories also?  There is also at least one news story about the AM that was killed by his Ukrainian wife and her lover too.  For the tens of thousands of FSU women that have come to this country over the last 4 years, 3 women (wives)? to be killed is not a significant number.  It is a pity that they were killed for sure, but not statistically significant.
You say, "I know of several 6-8 who are in abusive relationships."  Am/RW? "know", personally?  Or Internet hearsay?  Is this group inclusive of the first group of a "few"?  Or in addition?
KenC