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[The Mog returns]

Hi everyone, I changed ISP's and lost my password in my old emails somewhere so I had to create another account. You guys are going to think I'm a little wishy-washy, but after a lot of thought I decided to actually marry the boring provinciana i  was complaining about some months back. I guess I'll never find someone that loves me like she does. And Im finally going to be able to file  an I-29f for her next week after I take my oth of US citizenship. I know its silly living here since I was one and never getting naturalized, but now after a year of waiting Im finally going to be done with that stupid part of the process. Kinda cool tho, Ill be sending my petiotion out first thing the next morning! My question is I still havent got her letter of intent to marry yet, does anyone see any problem with me whipping one up and singing it in her name so I can get this thing rolling? I mean technically is a big no-no but realistically would they ever know?
Are these letters still required even if neither party has ever been married or could I just include a letter that states that fact, and save myself the trouble of taking a (small) chance? appreciate any opinions and advice, thanks and my best to all! The Mogs very happy these days!!

[SteveG]

... in response to Question, posted by The Mog returns on Jan 28, 2002

Whew!!!   You guys are making me feel guilty.  I must be the only criminal mind in this place..... LOL
                                    SteveG

[Dave H]

... in response to OK, I can see now that I am a bad influe..., posted by SteveG on Jan 31, 2002

Hey Steve,

I wouldn't talk too much about forging Melly's signature on that check. If she reads this thread...she may want her half of the money, plus interest. ;o)))

Don't stop posting about these "criminal" matters! I led a very sheltered life and need to broaden my horizons. ;o)))

Dave H.

[Jimbo]

... in response to Question, posted by The Mog returns on Jan 28, 2002

Hi Mog,

I didn't include a letter of intent.  I was going strictly by the K-1 FAQ page and didn't see it mentioned there.  No way I would forge it.

Question - is it a good idea to marry someone who you find 'boring'?  She may love you the way you want to be loved, but can you do the same for her?  In my case, I found that I needed to feel a bit of intrigue, a sense of wonder about the lady.  You've given it a lot of thought so I guess you're ok with it, but I was just curious about how you arrived at the decision.

Jim

[Dave H]

... in response to Question, posted by Jimbo on Jan 31, 2002

Hi Jim,

The Letter of Intent is a requirement that came into effect after you filed the K-1.

Dave H.

[Dave H]

... in response to Question, posted by The Mog returns on Jan 28, 2002

Hi Mog,

I have to agree with Ray on this one. Why risk fraud and forgery charges trying to save a few weeks. There are other forms in INS possession with her actual signature, for comparison. On a worse case scenario...she comes over, does a 180 and says she never signed such an agreement and that you are abusing her. The handwriting expert confirms that it is not her signature...she stays...you go to jail.

I called my fiancee (wife) and told her what was required in the statement. She typed the statement, signed it and had it notarized. Two weeks later, I received it.

Dave H.

[Ray]

... in response to Question, posted by The Mog returns on Jan 28, 2002

Remember that the "signed" letter will be sitting right there on the INS clerk's desk next to the signed G-325A. Or do you intend to sign that one for her also? If you forge one, why not forge both so the signatures will match? (just being facetious :-))

Ray

[SteveG]

... in response to Question, posted by The Mog returns on Jan 28, 2002

Mog,
 I don't know what the current requirements are BUT if a Letter of Intent to Marry is needed, personnally I would sign her name without hesitation and get the ball rolling.  I see this as no big deal because she still has to go to the interview where the INS has their chance to judge her intentions.   They would never know unless one of you told them.
                                  SteveG

[Ray]

... in response to Re: Question, posted by SteveG on Jan 30, 2002

I have to disagree Steve. Why take a chance on having the whole petition thrown out for fraud? Forgery is never a good idea!

If he just can’t wait another week or two, maybe a better idea would be to type up a statement and send it in unsigned. Then e-mail a copy to her so she can print it out and sign it, then mail it back to him. If the INS comes back and says it needs to be signed, then he can send them the signed copy. I don’t think there is anything illegal in that. Another option would be to have her fax a signed copy to him.

The I-129F asks for “Original statements from you and your fiancée whom you plan to marry within 90 days of his/her admission, and copies of any evidence you wish to submit to establish your mutual intent”. Technically, it doesn’t say “signed statements”. In contrast, the I-129F says “…completed and signed Form G-325A…”

Ray

[SteveG]

... in response to Bad Idea, posted by Ray on Jan 30, 2002

Ray,
 I knew somebody would disagree with my criminal ways.  LOL  All I can say is to be sure the signature looks authentic!   When I have forged Melly's signature, I had her authentic signature right there in front of me - just on the wrong piece of paper.   I practiced and practiced until I could duplicate it before ever doing the dirty deed for any official useage.   There now, I feel better for confessing.  

 I am skeptical that the INS would be so organized as to keep up with paperwork that is incomplete and wait for the proper corrections to be mailed in.  My luck would be that they would see a missing signature on a form/letter and throw the whole package in a mail-back bin to return to me whenever it was convenient(translate that to many moons later).    OK, enough rambling.   MOG, you're on your own!
                             SteveG

[Jeff S]

... in response to Re: Bad Idea, posted by SteveG on Jan 30, 2002

.. Is what you're saying that if you are going to be a forger, be a well practiced one? LOL

-- Jeff S.

[SteveG]

... in response to So Sreve ..., posted by Jeff S on Jan 31, 2002

Anything worth doing is worth doing right!  Practice! Practice! Practice!

 Hey, I wouldn't forge anything really serious but this INS paperwork can get so tedious sometimes and if you know she would sign it anyway but don't want to wait for weeks on the mail, I say go for it.  

Actually, the experience I am refering to personnaly is forging Melly's name on a tax return check.  I paid taxes as "Married and filing jointly" the first year we were married even though she was still in the Philippines.  I checked, read and asked IRS reps and found all the rules  on foreign spouse's to be sure I was legal, as much as possible where IRS lawyer double talk is concerned, that is.  LOL  By the way, I did have to pay taxes on her Philippine salary for that year even though that money never even entered the US, BUT my taxes were so much lower than normal because of the lower married tax rate that I couldn't really complain.  

  The fly in the ointment, so to speak, came when I got this nice big return check and it had her name on it too.   There was no way I was going to mail it for her to sign and risk losing it, so I just sat there and worked at copying her signature until I got good at it and signed it.  It sure did help pay for that last blowout on much needed hotrod and gun stuff.  

                          SteveG

[Jeff S]

... in response to So Sreve ..., posted by Jeff S on Jan 31, 2002

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[shadow]

... in response to Question, posted by The Mog returns on Jan 28, 2002

in my case. Wasn't asked for, was never mentioned. Larry.

[tomtneal]

... in response to Question, posted by The Mog returns on Jan 28, 2002

I don't think you need a letter of intent to marry just proof you have met in person,letters,pics and the such that is if you live in the USA.
tneal