A Resolution...

[kevin]

... in response to Re: Annulment?, posted by Stephen on Dec 21, 2002

I think the second ground regarding consummation might very well apply in his case.  (from what I gather having read his posts over time)

- Kevin

[donb2222]

... in response to Re: Re: Annulment?, posted by kevin on Dec 21, 2002

That's what I remember also.
If at all possible, I think he should go for an
annulment

[Mars]

... in response to Practical Strategy for the End Game, posted by Tim on Dec 20, 2002

I couldn't have said it any better......Act now!!!!!!

You will be extremely glad you did later. Good Luck and Godspeed!

[Howard]

... in response to Listen to this guy Howard........, posted by Mars on Dec 21, 2002

Mars,

Thanks for always being honest with me.  I have given it everything I have and am now ready to move in a direction that I had previuosly not considered an option.  I don't have a whole lot of choice in the matter, but can now deal with it knowing that I have done everything I possibly could.

I haven't always agreed with your opinion on this, but appreciate the fact that you care enough to offer it.  No matter what the outcome, I am satisfied that I have given it my all.  That's where I need to be in order to accept what others have seen for a while.  For the record, I saw it too, I just had to make sure that there was nothing else I could do before I could accept it.  Thanks for not saying "I told you so!" :c)

H

[Mars]

... in response to Re: Listen to this guy Howard........, posted by Howard on Dec 21, 2002

I didn't have the heart Dude. Keep your chin up Howard....and don't give up. I advised you to escape right from the beginning but now....I advise that you don't give up. Give it another try. Remember....there is a beautiful girl out there looking at the horizon wondering where in the H*ll you are. Good Luck!!!!!

[Mars]

... in response to Re: Re: Listen to this guy Howard.........., posted by Mars on Dec 21, 2002

I meant: don't give up on finding love........Get divorced from Ayesa but begin a search again.

[Mars]

... in response to Listen to this guy Howard........, posted by Mars on Dec 21, 2002

.......Just remember that gladiator/Coliseum scene in the movie "Gladiator"  Remember the "Arena'?

[kevin]

... in response to If you don't..........., posted by Mars on Dec 21, 2002

I never saw the movie.  I think I'd like to see it now.

Frankly, my gut feeling is that what Howard is dealing with now is a land mine that he might be walking into;  a loaded gun somewhere on the premises but doesn't know where.

In my opinion, anybody that tells him that he should try to salvage the marriage after all of this, is either plain, very plain naive, irresponsible, or worse yet, wants to see Howard in trouble.

Howard is under extremely trying circumstances.  For one thing, I think it might have been a huge mistake coaxing her to come back to the United States.  She may not necessarily have the ace card, but she's got more high ranking cards than before.  I think Ayesa can be trusted as much about her agenda regarding Howard, as much as Saddam Hussein can be trusted by the United States and the United Nations about promising not to develop nuclear, biological or chemical weapons.

It's high time for Howard to be strong, yet diplomatic.  The sooner he gets out of this mess, the more he'll have to salvage and rebuild his life.  Anybody that provides Ayesa "moral" support about all of this will only plant evil ideas designed to cut his balls off.

- Kevin

[Ray]

... in response to Re: If you don't..........., posted by kevin on Dec 21, 2002

...you Kevin are the very last one that should be advising anyone on their marital problems :-)

Ray

[Mars]

... in response to In my opinion..., posted by Ray on Dec 21, 2002

What do you think Ray? Should Howard give it one more chance to save his marriage? Kevin's opinion is just as valid as yours. Wake up.

[kevin]

... in response to In my opinion..., posted by Ray on Dec 21, 2002

Who the hell are you to tell me to keep silent about this?  Like it or not, I learn from life's experiences.  I'd like to give you a piece of my mind too.  I think it was very irresponsible of you to encourage Howard, over the past few months, to try to salvage this.  Look where it got him.

- Kevin

[Ray]

... in response to Re: In my opinion..., posted by kevin on Dec 21, 2002

Well, that's my opinion. Do you think your opinions are better than mine or anybody else's? So everyone who disagrees with your opinions is irresponsible or naïve? That's rather arrogant of you Kevin, don't you think?

Well, I think the insulting comments that you made about Howard’s wife are just plain irresponsible and sick. How's that?

And when did I tell you keep silent? I think maybe you're hallucinating again :-)

My opinion,

Ray

[kevin]

... in response to Re: Re: In my opinion..., posted by Ray on Dec 21, 2002

Reread your post and look at what you said.  You twist things way, way out of proportion.  You don't intimidate me at all.  I try to get along with everybody pretty much.  But it's jerks like you that try to paint a bad picture of me.  There's probably no point anyway in trying to set you straight about who I am and what my character.  You'll always find something else to put me down, insult me about, or whatever.

- Kevin

[tomtneal]

... in response to Re: Re: Re: In my opinion..., posted by kevin on Dec 21, 2002

boy's,boy's quit fighting or we will put the toy's away
tneal

[Ray]

... in response to Re: Re: Re: In my opinion..., posted by kevin on Dec 21, 2002

Kevin,

You can call me a jerk or whatever you like. You’ve become pretty good lately at calling people names if they disagree with you. But I still think your reference to Sadam Hussein when describing Howard’s wife is ridiculous. And how do you know what her agenda is? You always seem to know what these Filipinas are thinking and it’s always some sinister plot to get a guy’s money. Have you ever met the lady or talked with her? No, it’s just another one of those evil Filipinas that are out to suck a guys money out of his wallet. It’s always the same old story with you Kevin. And now she wants to cut his balls off? Sorry, but that’s just plain sick IMHO.

Why don’t you give this woman a break and wait to see what happens before you condemn her here in public? Because you have already judged her without knowing the facts yet. And when someone takes an opposing view from yours, you need to learn how to debate your point without calling them names, like “naïve”, “irresponsble”, “jerk”, etc. And when someone disagrees with you, why do you find the need to attack and flame? This is a Web forum for exchanging ideas, so don’t take everything so darn personal. If you treat others here with respect, then they’ll treat you with respect. But when you go off the deep end, don’t be surprised if you receive negative comments. That’s life.

Now flame away and call me some more names if it will make you feel better :-)

Ray